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      <title><![CDATA[A thin line between blog theft and promotion - another opinion]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Rich Mogull has been writing a bit about his disagreement with a the SecurityRatty site posting his content (original posts here and here ). These posts have set off a rash of comments and other...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich Mogull has been writing a bit about his disagreement with a the <a href="http://securityratty.com/">SecurityRatty</a> site posting his content (original posts <a href="http://securosis.com/2008/07/02/securityratty-is-slimey-content-stealing-thief/">here</a> and <a href="http://securosis.com/2008/07/02/i-win/">here</a>). These posts have set off a rash of comments and other articles on both sides of this issue. Finally Rich wrote his <a href="http://securosis.com/2008/07/02/defining-blog-content-theft/">defining post on this topic here</a>. Rich's position is that he owns his words. Ratty took them without his permission, ads nothing to the conversation or commentary at all and actually hosts the content rather than just linking to it. Now for those who don't know, SecurityRatty is a site allegedly owned and operated by some Russian CISSP dude. Basically, they claim they are an RSS aggregator and they just republish blog posts in their entirety. A couple of things to note though:<br><br>1. SecurityRatty does not usually add any content of their own or edit the posts in any way<br>2. They link back to the blogs or articles which are aggregated<br>3. They do appear to sell some advertising on the site<br>4. You can search their aggregated content on their site<br>5. At least recently they are removing content and feeds from their site if you request it.<br>6. They did not ask anyones permission that I know of before posting content<br><br>OK, now that the groundwork is laid, let me give my Shimel view on this. I disagree with Rich. Hey it is a big world and I think there is room for a dissenting opinion here. The reasons I disagree with Rich are:<br><br>1. Though Ratty plainly posts up others content, he does not hold it out as his own. He plainly gives credit to those who actually created the words and in fact links back to their sites.<br>2. Rich is publishing his data under a creative commons license, I am not sure if the meager ad on Ratty would qualify this as a commercial site.<br>3. Rich distinguishes what Ratty does from Google and other search engines (who clearly profit from Rich's content) by the fact that they just point to it. Not all together true. They also keep a cached copy of the content that you can go to as well.<br>4. The fact is that I have a tough time seeing any harm to Rich here. In fact if Ratty were not pointing back to Rich's site, if he did not make it as easy to see that it is just an aggregate feed or if Ratty were adding his own comments and not clearly delineating his from Rich's, I would feel differently. Some of this is directly in contrast to Rich who says that if Ratty did add his own views to Rich's, that would make it right by him.<br>5. Finally, I would go even further than Rich not being harmed by Ratty. I think Rich actually benefits from Ratty. It is yet another outlet for Rich's content and though not everyone reading it at Ratty may go back to Rich's site, they do know it is him and can go back easily. In fact if Rich did advertise at his site, I could understand him losing hits at his site. Otherwise if Ratty just pointed back, one could say the more hits Ratty generates, it could cost Rich more money. Much like people who link to graphics hosted elsewhere.<br><br>So, Rich I see that Ratty has stopped aggregating your content so that should be enough of a victory for you. In the long run though I think it is a Pyrrhic victory and you would have been better off with Ratty publicizing your words.</p><blockquote></blockquote>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/StillsecureAfterAllTheseYears/~3/326305454/a-thin-line-bet.html">A thin line between blog theft and promotion - another opinion</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[More RSA Compliance Solutions Bloggers]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/30308b0aec2bc5c5c3ed8e7ae995fd33</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Please join us in welcoming a two more RSA Bloggers. The RSA Compliance Solutions team (which already includes Dave Howell and Brad Davenport ) has been joined by Andrew Maloney and John McDonald...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Please join us in welcoming a two more RSA Bloggers. The RSA Compliance Solutions team (which already includes <a href="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog.aspx?author=Howell">Dave Howell</a> and <a href="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog.aspx?author=davenport">Brad Davenport</a>) has been joined by <a href="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog.aspx?author=moloney">Andrew Maloney</a> and <a href="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog.aspx?author=mcdonald">John McDonald</a>.
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      <source url="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog_entry.aspx?id=1303">More RSA Compliance Solutions Bloggers</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Social Networking: When It All Goes Horribly Wrong]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/2b23eb6f67ca4fcc9f54908547f7ef90</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Interesting article over at PCWorld


One of the first social networking upstarts, MySpace , is facing continuing security problems that threaten to spoil many of the innovative features that make the...]]></description>
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        Interesting article over at PCWorld:<br /><i><br /></i><p><i>One of the first social networking upstarts, <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/tags/MySpace+Inc..html">MySpace</a>, is facing continuing security problems that threaten to spoil many of the innovative features that make the site useful.</i></p><p><i>Hackers,
spammers and Internet malcontents have turned many of the "group"
sites, which are dedicated to interests such as home beer brewing,
animal welfare and gay rights issues, into cyber-graffiti walls, filled
with offensive comments and photographs.</i></p><br />Link <a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/147730/myspace_users_struggle_to_overcome_cybervandalism.html">here</a>.<br /><br /><br /> 
        
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://blog.spywareguide.com/2008/07/social-networking-when-it-all.html">Social Networking: When It All Goes Horribly Wrong</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Security psychology]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/4f3a302e7e847a8a21739447cbb10234</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Im currently in the first Workshop on security and human behaviour ; at MIT, which brings together security engineers, psychologists and others interested in topics raanging from deception through...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently in the first <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08.html">Workshop on security and human behaviour</a>; at MIT, which brings together security engineers, psychologists and others interested in topics raanging from deception through usability to fearmongering. Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08/agenda.html">agenda</a> and here are the <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/shb08/">workshop papers</a>.</p>
<p>The first session, on deception, was fascinating. It emphasised the huge range of problems, from detecting deception in interpersonal contexts such as interrogation through the effects of context and misdirection to how we might provide better trust signals to computer users.</p>
<p>Over the past seven years, security economics has gone from nothing to a thriving research field with over 100 active researchers. Over the next seven I believe that security psychology should do at least as well. I hope I&#8217;ll find enough odd minutes to live blog this first workshop as it happens!</p>
<p>[Edited to add:] See comments for live blog posts on the sessions; <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/06/security_and_hu.html">Bruce Schneier</a> is also blogging this event.</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/06/30/security-psychology/">Security psychology</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[On Elephants and Analytics]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/1442c3136b28a9d1abcf4dffefbd1935</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[In On EP and Analytics , good friend and respected colleague Opher Etzionapplies the well known metaphor of the big elephantto describe how, if you areobserving certain specific domains of a subject,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>In <a href="http://epthinking.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-ep-and-analytics.html" target="_self">On EP and Analytics</a>, good friend and respected colleague Opher Etzion applies the well known metaphor of the big elephant to describe how, if you are observing certain specific domains of a subject, like fraud detection, then your view of the whole elephant is biased by your lack of perspective of entire big elephant.</p>
<p>I am pleased that dear Opher continues to use this metaphor in counterpoint because the same metaphor can be used to describe the carefully selected group of vendors that have banded together to called themselves CEP Vendors.  This group, many founding members of the EPTS, have formed a merry band of well-intended event processing &#8220;specialists&#8221; and the same lovely elephant causes this group of bonded colleagues to make elephant-blinded statements, as Opher has made in his <a href="http://epthinking.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-ep-and-analytics.html" target="_self">quoted post</a>:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Currently most CEP applications do not require analytics.&#8221;</em> </p>
<p>The reason, I believe, that Opher makes the statement above is because the group of software vendors calling themselves &#8220;CEP vendors&#8221; represent a very small part of the overall event processing elephant;  and hence, since these self-described CEP applications appear to require very little or no analytics, then, by the same logic, CEP requires no analytics. </p>
<p>(I should outline the boolean logic in a future post!)</p>
<p>For example, one friend and colleague in Thailand is the CTO of True Internet, a leading telecommunications, voice, Video and Internet service provider in Thailand.   True processes myriad events on their network using a dynamic, self-learning neural networking technology.    The US company providing this very clever and highly recommended event processing application do not call themselves a &#8220;CEP vendor&#8221;; however, they process complex events better and more interesting than the band of merry self-described &#8220;CEP players&#8221;.</p>
<p>Again,  visualize the gentle giant elephant metaphor that Opher likes to use as a basis for his comments in CEP counterpoint.</p>
<p>When folks define the term &#8220;complex event processing&#8221; to match a technology marketing campaign that is primarily driven by software running rules against time-series data streaming in a sliding-time windows, and then go on to take the same software capabilities and apply these capabilities to problems that are suitable for that domain, then you match Opher&#8217;s elegant description of &#8220;a small view of the overall elephant&#8221;.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that the overall domain of event processing is at least three orders of magnitude larger than the combined annual revenue of the self-described companies marketing what they call &#8220;CEP engines.&#8221;  The very large &#8220;rest of the big elephant&#8221; is doing what is also &#8220;complex event processing&#8221; in everyday operations that are somehow overlooked in &#8221;other&#8221; analysis and counterplay.</p>
<p>Therefore,  I kindly remain unmoved of my view  that the self-described CEP community, as currently organized, is not immune to counterpoint using the same gentle giant elephant metaphor.  I like this metaphor and hope well-respected colleagues will continue to use this metaphor; because we can easily apply this elegant manner of discussion to explain why the current group of self-described CEP vendors are, in a manner of speaking, selling <a href="http://eventprocessing.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&amp;post=255" target="_self">Capital Market Snake Oil </a>because they are making outrageous claims about the capabilities of their products, as if they can solve the entire &#8221;elephant&#8221; of event processing problems.   Recently, <a href="http://reddevnews.com/news/article.aspx?editorialsid=9988" target="_self">in this article</a>, CEP was positioned as a technology to mitigate against corporate megadisasters like the subprime meltdown.</p>
<p>Advice:  Tone down the hype.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the noise in the counter arguments marginalize most of the real event processing challenges faced by customers.</p>
<p>In consistant and well respected rebuttal, Opher likes to use the &#8220;glass half-full, half-empty&#8221; metaphor.   Opher&#8217;s point is a valid attempt to paint my operational realism as &#8220;half empty&#8221; negativism; while at the same time positioning the promotion of the (narrow) event processing capabilities of the self-described CEP rules community as &#8220;half-full&#8221; thinking. </p>
<p>For the record, I do see my worldview as &#8220;half full&#8221; or &#8220;half empty&#8221;; but an unbiased pragmatic view based on day-to-day interaction with customers with what they would call &#8220;complex event processing&#8221; problems. </p>
<p>These same customers would fall over laughing if we tried to bolt one of these rule-based, time-series streaming data processing engines on their network and told them they can detect anything other than trival business events, business opportunities and threats, in near real-time. </p>
<p>Is it &#8220;half empty&#8221; thinking to caution people that a &#8220;glass&#8221; of software that is being touted as the answer to a wide range of complex (even going so far in a recent news article to imply CEP would have magically stopped the subprime crisis!) tangible business problems is not really as that it is hyped to be?  </p>
<p>If so, then I plead guilty to honesty and realism, with the added offense of a sense of fiscal responsibility to customers and end users.</p>
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      <source url="http://thecepblog.com/2008/06/26/on-elephants-and-analytics/">On Elephants and Analytics</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[On Elephants and Analytics]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/d267d4bd8cc726a7efb346107f8889a3</link>
      <guid>http://securityratty.com/article/d267d4bd8cc726a7efb346107f8889a3</guid>
      <description><![CDATA[In On EP and Analytics , good friend and respected colleague Opher Etzionapplies the well known metaphor of the big elephantto describe how, if you areobserving certain specific domains of a subject,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://epthinking.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-ep-and-analytics.html" target="_self">On EP and Analytics</a>, good friend and respected colleague Opher Etzion applies the well known metaphor of the big elephant to describe how, if you are observing certain specific domains of a subject, like fraud detection, then your view of the whole elephant is biased by your lack of perspective of the entire big elephant.</p>
<p>I am pleased that dear Opher continues to use this metaphor in counterpoint because the same metaphor can be used to describe the carefully selected group of vendors that have banded together to called themselves CEP Vendors.  This group, many founding members of the EPTS, have formed a merry band of well-intended event processing &#8220;specialists&#8221; and the same lovely elephant causes this group of bonded colleagues to make elephant-blinded statements, as Opher has made in his <a href="http://epthinking.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-ep-and-analytics.html" target="_self">quoted post</a>:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Currently most CEP applications do not require analytics.&#8221;</em> </p>
<p>The reason, I believe, that Opher makes the statement above is because the group of software vendors calling themselves &#8220;CEP vendors&#8221; represent a very small part of the overall event processing elephant;  and hence, since these self-described CEP applications appear to require very little or no analytics, then, by the same logic, CEP requires no analytics. </p>
<p>(I should outline the boolean logic in a future post!)</p>
<p>For example, one friend and colleague in Thailand is the CTO of True Internet, a leading telecommunications, voice, Video and Internet service provider in Thailand.   True processes myriad events on their network using a dynamic, self-learning neural networking technology.    The US company providing this very clever and highly recommended event processing application does not call themselves a &#8220;CEP vendor&#8221;; however, they process complex events better and more interesting than the band of merry self-described &#8220;CEP players&#8221;.</p>
<p>Again,  visualize the gentle giant elephant metaphor that Opher likes to use as a basis for his comments in CEP counterpoint.</p>
<p>When folks define the term &#8220;complex event processing&#8221; to match a technology marketing campaign that is primarily driven by software running rules against time-series data streaming in a sliding-time windows, and then go on to take the same software capabilities and apply these capabilities to problems that are suitable for that domain, then you match Opher&#8217;s elegant description of &#8220;a small view of the overall elephant&#8221;.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that the overall domain of event processing is at least two orders of magnitude larger (maybe more) than the combined annual revenue of the self-described companies marketing what they call &#8220;CEP engines.&#8221;  The very large &#8220;rest of the big elephant&#8221; is doing what is also &#8220;complex event processing&#8221; in everyday operations that are somehow overlooked in &#8221;other&#8221; analysis and counterplay.</p>
<p>Therefore,  I kindly remain unmoved from my view  that the self-described CEP community, as currently organized, is not immune to counterpoint using the same gentle giant elephant metaphor.  I like this metaphor and hope well-respected colleagues will continue to use this metaphor; because we can easily apply this elegant manner of discussion to explain why the current group of self-described CEP vendors are, in a manner of speaking, selling <a href="http://eventprocessing.wordpress.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&amp;post=255" target="_self">Capital Market Snake Oil </a>because they are making outrageous claims about the capabilities of their products, as if they can solve the entire &#8221;elephant&#8221; of event processing problems.   Recently, <a href="http://reddevnews.com/news/article.aspx?editorialsid=9988" target="_self">in this article</a>, CEP was positioned as a technology to mitigate against corporate megadisasters like the subprime meltdown.</p>
<p>Advice:  Tone down the hype.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the noise in the counter arguments marginalize most of the real event processing challenges faced by customers.</p>
<p>In consistant and well respected rebuttal, Opher likes to use the &#8220;glass half-full, half-empty&#8221; metaphor.   Opher&#8217;s point is a valid attempt to paint my operational realism as &#8220;half empty&#8221; negativism; while at the same time positioning the promotion of the (narrow) event processing capabilities of the self-described CEP rules community as &#8220;half-full&#8221; thinking. </p>
<p>For the record, I do see my worldview as &#8220;half full&#8221; or &#8220;half empty&#8221;; but an unbiased pragmatic view based on day-to-day interaction with customers with what they would call &#8220;complex event processing&#8221; problems. </p>
<p>These same customers would fall over laughing if we tried to bolt one of these rule-based, time-series streaming data processing engines on their network and told them they can detect anything other than trival business events, business opportunities and threats, in near real-time. </p>
<p>Is it &#8220;half empty&#8221; thinking to caution people that a &#8220;glass&#8221; of software that is being touted as the answer to a wide range of complex (even going so far in a recent news article to imply CEP would have magically stopped the subprime crisis!) tangible business problems is not really as that it is hyped to be?  </p>
<p>If so, then I plead guilty to honesty and realism, with the added offense of a sense of fiscal responsibility to customers and end users.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA["many of Colt's clients" affected by breach, CNET included]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Technorati Tag: Security Breach

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<img src="http://breachblog.com/images/95781-88451/colt.jpg" width="78" align="right" height="69"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Date Reported: </span><br>6/13/08<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Organization: </span><br><a href="http://www.cnetnetworks.com/">CNET Networks, Inc. ("CNET")</a> <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Contractor/Consultant/Branch:</span><br><a href="http://www.colthr.com/">Colt Express Outsourcing Services, Inc. ("Colt")</a><br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Victims:</span><br>"current and former employees and their dependants"<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Number Affected:</span><br>"around 6,500"<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Types of Data:</span><br>"first names, last names, date of birth, Social Security numbers, address, employer, hire date, benefits group numbers, and relationship to the policy holder"<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Breach Description:</span><br>"Colt informed our client by this letter that on Memorial Day, Monday, May 26, 2008, Colt's offices in Walnut Creek, California were burglarized.&nbsp; Certain computer equipment was taken which contains the human resources data of several of their clients, including CNET.&nbsp; The theft of this equipment may have compromised the personal information of our client's current and former employees and their dependants, and our client is working to understand the extent of any exposure for its employees."<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Reference URL:</span><br><a href="http://www.oag.state.md.us/idtheft/Breach%20Notices/ITU-153493.pdf">Maryland State Attorney General breach notification</a><br><a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/147460/cnet_employees_notified_after_data_breach.html">PCWorld</a> <br><a href="http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2008/06/24/cnet-affected-by-security-breach">WebProNews</a> <br><a href="http://www.pogowasright.org/article.php?story=20080619103835325">PogoWasRight</a> <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Report Credit:</span><br>The Maryland State Attorney General<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Response:</span><br>From the online sources cited above:<br><br>On June 6, 2008, CNET received the attached letter from Colt Express Outsourcing Services, Inc., ("Colt") who has provided our client with employee benefit plan administrative services for the past 8 years.<br><br>Colt informed our client by this letter that on Memorial Day, Monday, May 26, 2008, Colt's offices in Walnut Creek, California were burglarized.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Uh Oh!, this is starting to read like and smell like the </span><a style="font-style: italic;" href="http://breachblog.com/2008/02/11/asi.aspx">ASI breach</a><span style="font-style: italic;"> reported in February.</span><br><br>The breach occurred on Memorial Day, Monday, May 26, 2008, between approximately 4:30 p.m. and 5:00 p.m. PST, when someone broke into Colt Express's office at 2125 Oak Grove Road, Suite 210, Walnut Creek, California, 94598<br><br>Certain computer equipment was taken which contains the human resources data of several of their clients, including CNET. <br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] According to a CNET spokesperson, via PogoWasRight.org, the "computer equipment" did not employ encryption to protect the information.&nbsp; Encryption could have been a prudent control in a defense-in-depth approach, a mitigating control to protect information against a physical break-in and theft.</span><br><br>The theft of this equipment may have compromised the personal information of our client's current and former employees and their dependants, and our client is working to understand the extent of any exposure for its employees.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Not "may have", but did.&nbsp; Information security and control can no longer be reasonably assured, which in my book constitutes a compromise.</span><br><br>Colt has also informed us that they reported the break-in to Walnut Creek police and to REACT High Tech Crimes Task Force in Silicon Valley when they discovered the burglary and that there is an ongoing criminal investigation.<br><br>report number 08-12367<br><br>In speaking directly with the Walnut Creek Police on June 12, 2008, Officer Greg Leonard, the primary investigator for the incident informed us that they are not aware of any misuse of personal information as a result of this theft at this time.<br><br>The information included first names, last names, Social Security numbers, address, employer, hire date, benefits group numbers, and relationship to the policy holder for around 6,500 of our client's current and former employees, and their dependants.<br><br><img src="http://images.quickblogcast.com/95781-88451/cnetnumbers.jpg" width="435" border="0"><br><br>some of your current and former employees and their dependants during the time period of 01-Aug-00 to present.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] August 1st, 2000 through May 26th, 2008 is almost eight years of information!&nbsp; I wonder what the data retention policy states at Colt, supposing one exists.</span><br><br>We do not have any understanding that the computers stored personal health information.<br><br>Our client is providing written notification to all affected individuals at the last home address we have on record<br><br>Although there is no evidence of misuse of the data to date, our client's notification will also inform affected individuals that it has contracted with Equifax to provide Equifax Credit Watch Gold with 3 in 1 Monitoring service, including identity theft insurance, for one full year at no cost.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] I have said it before, and I will say it again.&nbsp; One year of semi-effective protection should not be considered adequate for information that has a usable life that far exceeds this time frame.&nbsp; It should be pointed out howevere that it is better than nothing and the company is not required to offer it.</span><br><br>Although we are not aware of the exact number of individuals affected by the Colt breach, we do know that we were among many of Colt's clients whose data were stored on the stolen computers.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] The word that catches my attention almost immediately is "many".&nbsp; How many clients will be affected in the end?&nbsp; PogoWasRight is already following up on another company that may be affected.</span><br><br>Colt Express takes the protection of its customer and personal information very seriously.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Making a statement like this and the demonstration by action are two entirely different matters.&nbsp; An organization such as Colt Express creates, collects, stores and transfers very sensitive information as an integral part of their business.&nbsp; This being said, I wonder why this information was not protected better.</span><br><br>Colt Express is taking steps to ensure that a potential data security breach does not occur in the future.<br><br>We installed an alarm system on Friday, May 30th.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Are we to assume that there was none prior to May 30th?&nbsp; I hope not!</span><br><br>Colt Express is looking into what additional steps may be taken to provide enhanced security.<br><br>By this letter and enclosures, we are providing you with all the information we believe you need, and that we are able to give you.&nbsp; We do not have the resources, financial and otherwise, to assist you further.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Say huh?</span><br><br>Towards the end of last year, our customer base was reduced to an unsustainable level.<br><br>Colt has been in the process of going out of business, while at the same time providing time for remaining customers to find alternative solutions.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] This is a twist.&nbsp; How long has the company been in the process of going out of business and was CNET (and the "many" other clients) aware of it?&nbsp; If so, this could have been a sign that could have spurred some action.&nbsp; Then again, maybe not.</span><br><br><img src="http://images.quickblogcast.com/95781-88451/cnetcolthomepage.jpg" width="241" border="0"><br><font size="1">http://www.colthr.com/</font><br><br><br><br>Those decisions are now final.<br><br>We are firmly committed to protecting all of the information that is entrusted to us both before and after we close down.<br><br>We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience and concern this incident will cause.<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commentary:</span><br>As I stated earlier in the post, I am a little fearful that this breach could end up as significant or more significant (in terms of number of people and organizations affected) than the <a href="http://breachblog.com/2008/02/11/asi.aspx">ASI breach</a> reported in February.&nbsp; The ASI breach was the 2nd most popular posting in The Breach Blog's history at the time, based on number of online page reads and comments posted.<br><br>This breach has got me thinking.&nbsp; Some of the key risks that we address with the organizations we work with are those involving the management of vendor and third-party relationships.&nbsp; Ideally, information security personnel are involved throughout the relationship, including the initial vendor feasibility assessment.&nbsp; Vendors and "trusted" third-parties need to be held to the same high security standards that we set for the organization.&nbsp; The methods in which this can be accomplished vary from organization to organization, but typically include risk assessments (initial and ongoing), information security requirements built into contractual language, and enforcement actions if necessary.&nbsp; If a vendor is not encrypting confidential information or employing burglar alarms, it is known (and hopefully addressed). <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Past Breaches:</span><br>Unknown</font><br><br>
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      <description><![CDATA[Please join us in welcoming a new set of RSA Bloggers. The RSA Compliance Solutions team--including Dave Howell and Brad Davenport --will be penning a set of blog entries for &quot;Speaking of Security&quot;...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Please join us in welcoming a new set of RSA Bloggers. The RSA Compliance Solutions team--including <a href="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog.aspx?author=Howell">Dave Howell</a> and <a href="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog.aspx?author=davenport">Brad Davenport</a>--will be penning a set of blog entries for "Speaking of Security" around the theme of Simplified Compliance. 

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      <title><![CDATA[An Update to Photobucket's DNS Hijacking]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[With Photobuckets recently hijacked DNS records by Turkish hacking group , the second high profile DNS hijack for the past two months next to Comcast.net's DNS hijacking in May , domain registrant...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp1.blogger.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SGDNLcUG8WI/AAAAAAAAB1M/OHd6QoarHK4/s1600-h/atspace_DNS_hijacking.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp1.blogger.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SGDNLcUG8WI/AAAAAAAAB1M/OHd6QoarHK4/s200/atspace_DNS_hijacking.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5215393964957823330" border="0" /></a>With <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1285">Photobucket’s recently hijacked DNS records by Turkish hacking group</a>, the second high profile DNS hijack for the past two months next to <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1213">Comcast.net's DNS hijacking in May</a>, domain <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1208">registrant impersonation attacks</a> seems to fully work, and Tier 1 domain registrars remain susceptible to them.<br /><br />So far, none of these DNS hijacks served any malware, live exploits, or bogus home pages aiming to steal accounting data. However, the DNS hijacking by itself resulted in a Denial of Service attack on Photobucket, one that would have required a great deal of bandwidth if it were executed in the old fashioned frontal attack approach.<br /><br />And with Photobucket still labeling the DNS hijacking as a "DNS error", their failure to admit what has actually happened is already sparkling quite a few negative comments across the Web - with a reason. Creating alternate realities when it comes to evidential proof of a hack isn't necessarily state of the art public relations. Photobucket.com's domain registrar, <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9973345-7.html">the Register.com comments on the DNS hijacking</a> :<br /><br />"<span style="font-style: italic;">The Photobucket site was down for a very short time and was restored immediately when we became aware of the issue." Roni Jacobson, general counsel of Register.com, said in a statement on Thursday. "We are currently investigating the source of the problem.</span>"<br /><br />As well as Atspace.com's (Zettahost.com) <a href="http://atspace.com/dedicated-web-server-hosting-domain-articles-news/">statement left on their site regarding the DNS hijacking</a> :<br /><br />"<span style="font-style: italic;">IMPORTANT! Photobucket.com problem read here: </span><span style="font-style: italic;">Last night Photobucket.com DNS at register.com was hacked by malicious people that are trying to compromise our business!  We are in no way affiliated with such bad deeds and cooperate with photobucket in capturing these individuals. They have pointed the domain photobucket.com to an account hosted on our systems! We have blocked that and photobucked techs have restored the domain pointing to its original location!ALL account information and pictures on photobucket.com are OK, please have patience! Unfortunately the complete DNS replication usually takes 24-48 hours and during this time caches DNS records might still point to us! </span><span style="font-style: italic;">The normal operation of Photobucket is restored and as soon as the replication is complete there should be no further such issues! We would like to emphasize that we are in now way responsible for what happens with photobucket and all users bumping across our systems! </span><span style="font-style: italic;">We are a legitimate web hosting company operating since 2003 and in no way tolerate such hacking attempts! If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us at abuse@zettahost.com! Thanks for your patience and understanding!</span>"<br /><br />When the affected company acts like nothing's happened, whereas multiple sources continue providing pieces of the puzzle, a statement on the measures taken to prevent that type of hijacking in the future would be better PR than denying the hijacking of the first place and the fact that they could have pointed Photobucket.com to anywhere they wanted to.<div class="feedflare">
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/DanchoDanchevOnSecurityAndNewMedia/~3/318813375/update-to-photobuckets-dns-hijacking.html">An Update to Photobucket's DNS Hijacking</source>
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      <description><![CDATA[Is there security needed between virtual machines? Some say no, some say yes. I've been out talking to a number of virtualization users and non users on this topic and I'm finding that some say no and...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Is there security needed between virtual machines?&nbsp; Some say no, some say yes.&nbsp; I've been out talking to a number of virtualization users and non users on this topic and I'm finding that some say no and some say yes.&nbsp; The users of virtualization technology tend to say yes while others looking at virtualization from the outside tend to say no.&nbsp; Why is this?</p>

<p>Well, I thought I'd blog on my thoughts on this!</p>

<p>You see, in the physical datacenter there is no firewalling between servers plugged into the same switch and because of this some people think, well if its not done in the physical world why should it be done in the virtual world.&nbsp; I believe that its not done in the physical world today because there are no solutions today that embed security into datacenter switches.&nbsp; Should it be done in the physical world?&nbsp; I think so!&nbsp; It never hurts to get security as close as possible to the things you are trying to protect and what better place than the switch port in which the critical asset are connected to.&nbsp; This is why people have HOST BASED FW/IPS ON SERVERS!&nbsp; To get security as close as possible!&nbsp; Is that needed?&nbsp; </p>

<p>So my first response to those that say, security between virtual machines is not needed because its not done in the physical world is:&nbsp; Well, just because people have done things one way for many years doesn't mean there isn't a better way.</p>

<p>Would environments be more secure if there was security between servers?&nbsp; I tend to think so.&nbsp; You see, many of the attacks that are taking place these days are not attacks for fame but attacks for fortune and gone are the days where people just hacked to spread nasty viruses.&nbsp; Its all about the data these days (ie. credit cards, social security numbers, etc).&nbsp; We've all heard about the TJ Max security breach where customer data was compromised and many others like banks that have had credit cards compromised.&nbsp; </p>

<p>How and the heck do you think most of these things happened?&nbsp; Attackers are targeting the datacenter these days.&nbsp; Physical or Virtual.&nbsp; Their gateway into these environments are the Web Front End Servers.&nbsp; Let me say that again.&nbsp; The Web Front End Servers!&nbsp; Hackers get to the data from the web front end server that talks to the database backend server.&nbsp; This useually occurs by something called &quot;Cross-Site Scripting&quot; or &quot;SQL Injection&quot; breaches.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Here is a trival way of how this happens:</p>

<p>A hacker finds a vulnerable web site.&nbsp; He sometimes does this by something called Google Hacking.&nbsp; He uses Google to search for sites that has vulnerabilities on it.&nbsp; Say a web site has some content on one of the pages that says &quot;Powered by Drupal 4.1&quot;.&nbsp; If a hacker knows that Drupal 4.1 software has a vulnerability in it, he can now target all the search results related to this.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_hacking">Click Here for more detail</a>.</p>

<p>Now lets say Drupal 4.1 on a web site has a SQL-Injection vulnerability because the developer of the Drupal software didn't do Form Field Validation properly.&nbsp; A Form field is something you fill out on a web page like a form that asks for the user name and password.&nbsp; User names and passwords to log into the web site are stored on whats called a Database Server.&nbsp; Hmmm... So this means the web server needs to talk to the database server right?&nbsp; Yes!&nbsp; Keep this in the back of our head for now.&nbsp; The hacker enters in &quot;Admin&quot; for the user ID and &quot;password doesn't matter <strong>'or 1=1--</strong>&quot; for the password.&nbsp; And presto!&nbsp; He is logged in to the server as Admin.</p>

<p>The reason he was able to log in is because the web site sends a SQL Database command to the Database server and because the developer of the Drupal software didn't do &quot;Form Field Validation&quot; properly (method of checking for invalid characters like the ' (single quote)&nbsp; symbol), the user was able to bypass the password.&nbsp; Notice the 'OR 1=1 command appended to the password.&nbsp; One does equal one so therefore it will return a TRUE result to the password checker and the OR says use the password typed in (password doesnt matter) OR check to see if one is equal to one.&nbsp; If its true then the password is valid for this user which is Admin.</p>

<p>Now that the user is on the web server, he probably has the ability to connect to the database server or other servers in the network.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because there is connectivity from the web front end to all of the backend servers.&nbsp; He essently can backdoor his way throughout the network. </p>

<p>Another method is for him to append some SQL statement to another SQL statement.&nbsp; Lets say their is a FORM FIELD on the website that collects some information from the database to display it to web site users.&nbsp; It could be entering in the Zip code to find store locations in your area.&nbsp; Instead of putting in the zip code you could put in &quot;95123 'UNION SELECT * FROM credit_card_table--&quot;.&nbsp; The hacker is injecting via the UNION command (which means join one SQL statement with another one) a command that says grab all (via the asterisk) information out the credit card table.</p>

<p>Lastly, the hacker can use the UNION command to write text of his desire to a text file on the database server.&nbsp; He may write some nasty code, tell the database to write the code to a file and then tell the server to execute that file.&nbsp; The code could be used to do a denial of service attack to the other virtual machines or whatever.&nbsp; The possibilities are endless!!</p>

<p>Anyway, these are high level examples.&nbsp; I think you get the point.</p>

<p>The Web Front End Virtual Machine has a need to talk to the Web Back End Virtual Machine and security such as Firewalling, Intrusion Prevention definately needs to be in place to have a higher level of security.</p>

<p>Another reason to have security between virtual machines is because servers are now mobile in the virtual world.&nbsp; They move between trust domains to take advantage of computing resources that may be available on a given piece of hardware.&nbsp; Lets say one PHYSICAL server was hosting database VM's and another PHYSICAL server was hosting file server VM's.&nbsp; The file server VM could VMOTION to the same environment as the database VM's.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now where is your isolation between trust domains or unlike resources?</p>

<p>People should think about this problem in greater detail.&nbsp; I'd love to hear everyones comments as to whether or not they think security between VM's is needed.</p>

<p><a href="http://vmwaresecurity.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/22/creditcardhacker_2.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=640,height=400,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img height="312" border="0" width="500" alt="Creditcardhacker_2" title="Creditcardhacker_2" src="http://vmwaresecurity.typepad.com/security_in_the_virtual_w/images/2008/06/22/creditcardhacker_2.jpg" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left;" /></a>
 </p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>John Peterson<br />Montego Networks</p></div>
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