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      <title><![CDATA[Online Finance Flaws: An Awareness Campaign]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/1aabc5edbe215010d8c71b5aa4aa7551</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Here begins a series regarding web application security inadequacies in online financial service offerings. The services to be discussed will include banks, credit unions, credit card companies, and...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Here begins a series regarding web application security inadequacies in online financial service offerings. The services to be discussed will include banks, credit unions, credit card companies, and others. As the economy struggles profoundly, and much of the blame points at the financial sector, I believe it important to point out the false sense of security so many brand-name financial services wrongly instill in their customers.<br />Often this sense of security is coupled with a typical "security badge" provider, helping drive conversions rather than security, as we will also legitimize how often the badge providers miss the mark on their promises.<br />Accountability in loan making decisions and practices might have prevented the sub-prime market collapse and the subsequent credit crunch that has hogtied our economy. <br />Accountability with regard to web application security while providing online financial services is now all the more important as <a href="http://securitywatch.eweek.com/exploits_and_attacks/as_economy_dives_underground_thrives.html" target="_blank">cybercrime</a> will continue to increase at a pace proportionate to economic woes.<br />Each post relevant to this campaign will include Online Finance Flaw in its title for tracking purposes. <br />Look forward to surprising flaws in financial services brands you'll recognize.<br />Perhaps, the more attention we draw to services that should place security above all else, the more likely it is they'll commit to improving their security posture.<br />Feel free to comment or contribute; we'll begin in a day or two.]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/11/online-finance-flaws-awareness-campaign_29.html">Online Finance Flaws: An Awareness Campaign</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[ Here Comes Everybody Review]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[In 1937, Ronald Coase answered one of the most perplexing questions in economics: if markets are so great, why do organizations exist? Why don't people just buy and sell their own services in a market...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1937, Ronald Coase answered one of the most perplexing questions in economics: if markets are so great, why do organizations exist? Why don't people just buy and sell their own services in a market instead? Coase, who won the 1991 Nobel Prize in Economics, answered the question by noting a market's transaction costs: buyers and sellers need to find one another, then reach agreement, and so on. The Coase theorem implies that if these transaction costs are low enough, direct markets of individuals make a whole lot of sense. But if they are too high, it makes more sense to get the job done by an organization that hires people. </p>

<p>Economists have long understood the corollary concept of Coase's ceiling, a point above which organizations collapse under their own weight -- where hiring someone, however competent, means more work for everyone else than the new hire contributes. Software projects often bump their heads against Coase's ceiling: recall Frederick P. Brooks Jr.'s seminal study, <cite>The Mythical Man-Month</cite> (Addison-Wesley, 1975), which showed how adding another person onto a project can slow progress and increase errors. </p>

<p>What's new is something consultant and social technologist Clay Shirky calls &quot;Coase's Floor,&quot; below which we find projects and activities that aren't worth their organizational costs -- things so esoteric, so frivolous, so nonsensical, or just so thoroughly unimportant that no organization, large or small, would ever bother with them. Things that you shake your head at when you see them and think, &quot;That's ridiculous.&quot;</p>

<p>Sounds a lot like the Internet, doesn't it? And that's precisely Shirky's point. His new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1594201536/counterpane/"><cite>Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing Without Organizations</cite></a>, explores a world where organizational costs are close to zero and where ad hoc, loosely connected groups of unpaid amateurs can create an encyclopedia larger than the Britannica and a computer operating system to challenge Microsoft's. </p>

<p>Shirky teaches at New York University's Interactive Telecommunications Program, but this is no academic book. Sacrificing rigor for readability, <cite>Here Comes Everybody</cite> is an entertaining as well as informative romp through some of the Internet's signal moments -- the Howard Dean phenomenon, Belarusian protests organized on LiveJournal, the lost cellphone of a woman named Ivanna, Meetup.com, flash mobs, Twitter, and more -- which Shirky uses to illustrate his points. </p>

<p>The book is filled with bits of insight and common sense, explaining why young people take better advantage of social tools, how the Internet affects social change, and how most Internet discourse falls somewhere between dinnertime conversation and publishing. </p>

<p>Shirky notes that &quot;most user-generated content isn't 'content' at all, in the sense of being created for general consumption, any more than a phone call between you and a sibling is 'family-generated content.' Most of what gets created on any given day is just the ordinary stuff of life -- gossip, little updates, thinking out loud -- but now it's done in the same medium as professionally produced material. Unlike professionally produced material, however, Internet content can be organized after the fact.&quot; </p>

<p>No one coordinates Flickr's 6 million to 8 million users. Yet Flickr had the first photos from the 2005 London Transport bombings, beating the traditional news media. Why? People with cellphone cameras uploaded their photos to Flickr. They coordinated themselves using tools that Flickr provides. This is the sort of impromptu organization the Internet is ideally suited for. Shirky explains how these moments are harbingers of a future that can self-organize without formal hierarchies. </p>

<p>These nonorganizations allow for contributions from a wider group of people. A newspaper has to pay someone to take photos; it can't be bothered to hire someone to stand around London underground stations waiting for a major event. Similarly, Microsoft has to pay a programmer full time, and <cite>Encyclopedia Britannica</cite> has to pay someone to write articles. But Flickr can make use of a person with just one photo to contribute, Linux can harness the work of a programmer with little time, and Wikipedia benefits if someone corrects just a single typo. These aggregations of millions of actions that were previously below the Coasean floor have enormous potential. </p>

<p>But a flash mob is still a mob. In a world where the Coasean floor is at ground level, all sorts of organizations appear, including ones you might not like: violent political organizations, hate groups, Holocaust deniers, and so on. (Shirky's discussion of teen anorexia support groups makes for very disturbing reading.) This has considerable implications for security, both online and off. </p>

<p>We never realized how much our security could be attributed to distance and inconvenience -- how difficult it is to recruit, organize, coordinate, and communicate without formal organizations. That inadvertent measure of security is now gone. Bad guys, from hacker groups to terrorist groups, will use the same ad hoc organizational technologies that the rest of us do. And while there has been some success in closing down individual Web pages, discussion groups, and blogs, these are just stopgap measures. </p>

<p>In the end, a virtual community is still a community, and it needs to be treated as such. And just as the best way to keep a neighborhood safe is for a policeman to walk around it, the best way to keep a virtual community safe is to have a virtual police presence. </p>

<p>Crime isn't the only danger; there is also isolation. If people can segregate themselves in ever-increasingly specialized groups, then they're less likely to be exposed to alternative ideas. We see a mild form of this in the current political trend of rival political parties having their own news sources, their own narratives, and their own facts. Increased radicalization is another danger lurking below the Coasean floor. </p>

<p>There's no going back, though. We've all figured out that the Internet makes freedom of speech a much harder right to take away. As Shirky demonstrates, Web 2.0 is having the same effect on freedom of assembly. The consequences of this won't be fully seen for years. </p>

<p><cite>Here Comes Everybody</cite> covers some of the same ground as Yochai Benkler's <cite>Wealth of Networks</cite>. But when I had to explain to one of my corporate attorneys how the Internet has changed the nature of public discourse, Shirky's book is the one I recommended.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/sep08/6631">previously appeared</a> in <i>IEEE Spectrum</i>.</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[P = NP?]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/7e4e3f43aaa3bd30c160d3efd728a688</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[People have been sending me this paper that &quot;proves&quot; that P != NP. These sorts of papers make the rounds regularly, and my advice is to not pay attention to any of them. G.J. Woeginger keeps a list of...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have been sending me <a href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0810.5056">this paper</a> that "proves" that P != NP.  These sorts of papers make the rounds regularly, and my advice is to not pay attention to any of them.   G.J. Woeginger <a href="http://www.win.tue.nl/~gwoegi/P-versus-NP.htm">keeps a list</a> of these papers -- he has 43 so far -- and points out:</p>

<blockquote>The following paragraphs list many papers that try to contribute to the P-versus-NP question. Among all these papers, there is only a single paper that has appeared in a peer-reviewed journal, that has thoroughly been verified by the experts in the area, and whose correctness is accepted by the general research community: The paper by Mihalis Yannakakis. (And this paper does not settle the P-versus-NP question, but "just" shows that a certain approach to settling this question will never work out.)</blockquote>

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      <source url="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/11/p_np.html">P = NP?</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Blue Box's 3-year anniversary coming up on Friday... ]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/a116eaf0133996627443234f07d74420</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[It was three years ago Friday, on October 24, 2005, that I uploaded Blue Box Podcast #1 , an 11-minute show where I introduced the show, talked about VoIP security news (To no surprise, I was talking...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">It was three years ago Friday, on October 24, 2005, that I uploaded <a href="http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/2005/10/blue_box_podcas.html">Blue Box Podcast #1</a>, an 11-minute show where I introduced the show, talked about VoIP security news (To no surprise, I was talking about Skype security!), some projects of VOIPSA and some other podcasts people might find interesting. A week later, on Halloween 2005, Jonathan joined me in <a href="http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/2005/11/blue_box_podcas.html">Blue Box Podcast #2</a> and we were off and running...

<p>Three years later... 84 main Blue Box episodes (with one more recorded) .... 26 Special Editions (with about 10 in the queue)... almost <em>250,000</em> downloads... we're still here and, with an admitted bit of a rough patch this summer, are still going along creating shows and enjoying what we do.

<p>Jonathan and I are planning to record a 3-year show on this coming Friday, October 24th, and if you have any comments you would like us to include in that show, please do get them to us by the end of the day on Thursday, October 23rd.  You can send them to us via:
<ul>
<li>Email to <a href="mailto:blueboxpodcast@gmail.com">blueboxpodcast@gmail.com</a>
<li>Phone to +1-415-830-5439
<li>Phone via SIP to <a href="sip:bluebox@voipuser.org">sip:bluebox@voipuser.org</a>
</ul>
<p>The show started out 3 years ago as really an experiment in seeing whether or not podcasting could be used to reach out to very specific audiences... and it's been both fun, amazing and interesting to see how well it's done.
<p>Thank you to all of you who have continued to listen and contribute over the years!


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      <title><![CDATA[OWASP European Summit - Portugal]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Portugal/Algarve - 4th - 7th November 2008
Setting the Web Application Security Agenda for 2009: OWASP Invites You to Join Our Summit in Portugal
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><em><span style="font-size: small;">Portugal/Algarve - 4th - 7th November 2008</span></em></p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Setting the Web Application Security Agenda for 2009: OWASP Invites You to Join Our Summit in Portugal</span></p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><a style="text-decoration: none; color: #3366bb;" title="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight: bold;">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008</span></a></p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">With the theme <span style="font-style: italic;">&#8216;Setting the AppSec agenda for 2009&#8242;</span>, the OWASP Summit will be a worldwide gathering of OWASP leaders and key industry players to present and discuss the latest OWASP tools, documentation projects, and web application security trends. Join us in Portugal in just a few short weeks! This venue hosts a diverse selection of training courses along with technical and business tracks, making it THE place to learn about web application security and the resources OWASP has available for use today.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">OWASP is a not-for-profit organization with the purpose of supporting the Web Application Security community around the world, and has granted $250,000 USD for web application security research. In addition to over 40 presentations from the OWASP Leaders and grant recipients, the OWASP Summit will host multiple Working Sessions designed to improve collaboration, achieve specific objectives and identify roadmaps for OWASP projects, chapters, and the OWASP community itself.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">To facilitate this event, OWASP is investing $150,000 USD which will be used to cover air travel and accommodation expenses for OWASP leaders, active contributors, and select key industry leaders. With their confirmed presence, the OWASP Summit will provide a relaxed but professional environment to meet, discuss, influence and contribute to OWASP projects.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">There are still funds available! If you are interested in attending and you meet the profile of the current OWASP supported attendees (see list here: <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #3366bb;" title="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pAX6n7m2zaTVLrPtR07riBA" rel="nofollow" href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pAX6n7m2zaTVLrPtR07riBA" target="_blank">http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pAX6n7m2zaTVLrPtR07riBA</a>) contact Paulo Coimbra (<a href="mailto:paulo.coimbra@owasp.org" target="_blank">paulo.coimbra@owasp.org</a>). Please note that you should do so only if you meet the paid attendance criteria (see here<a style="text-decoration: none; color: #3366bb;" title="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008_paid_participation_rules" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008_paid_participation_rules" target="_blank">https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008_paid_participation_rules</a>) and are unable to get corporate support to attend this event (for other corporate sponsorship opportunities see <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #3366bb;" title="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008_Sponsors" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008_Sponsors" target="_blank">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008_Sponsors</a>).</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">The OWASP Summit will also host a large and diverse selection of training courses, covering multiple OWASP specific and Web Application Security Topics.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">The remarkable impact of OWASP is made possible only by the collaboration of many dedicated people and organizations worldwide. In that spirit of cooperation, OWASP invites all its members (who have 20% discount + 1 VIP Ticket) and interested individuals and companies to attend this thrilling event. Please join us and help to set the Web Application Security Agenda for 2009!</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">Please see below for additional details about the OWASP Summit or visit the OWASP Summit website: <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #3366bb;" title="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008" target="_blank">http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_EU_Summit_2008</a>.</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><strong>Projects</strong></p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">OWASP projects selected for Summit presentation include new documentation and innovative tools to help developers, architects, and security specialists ensure that applications are secure:</p>
<ul style="margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em; padding: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square;">
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Application Security Verification Standard,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Code review guide, V1.1,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Ruby on Rails Security Guide v2,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Securing WebGoat using ModSecurity,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Testing Guide v3,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">GTK+ GUI for w3af project,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Access Control Rules Tester,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">AntiSamy .NET,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Live CD &amp; DVD Project,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OpenPGP Extensions for HTTP,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Orizon Project,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Python Static Analysis,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">WebScarab-NG,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">And many, many others.</li>
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<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><strong>Working Sessions</strong></p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">Expecting the presence of the application security industry key players, the Working Sessions will cover a wide range of issues such as:</p>
<ul style="margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em; padding: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square;">
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Top 10 2009,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Browser Security,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Web Application Framework Security,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Enterprise Security API Project,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Best Practices for OWASP Chapter Leaders,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Documentation Projects,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> OWASP Tools Projects,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Education Project,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Strategic Planning for 2009,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Certification,</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Winter of Code 2009</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Two-way Internationalization of OWASP Content</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">And many more.</li>
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<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;"><strong>Training</strong></p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">These 2-day, 1-day or 1/2-day training courses cover a wide range of OWASP specific and Web Application Security Topics:</p>
<ul style="margin: 0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em; padding: 0px; line-height: 1.5em; list-style-type: square;">
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">OWASP Top 10 - What Developers Should Know on Web Application Security</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Uncovering WebScarab&#8217;s Secret Treasures</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Securing WebGoat with ModSecurity</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Secure Programming with Java</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Advanced Web Application Security Testing</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Building Secure Web 2.0 Applications</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Building Secure Web Services</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Building Secure Web Applications with OWASP&#8217;s Enterprise Security API (ESAPI)</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Classic ASP Security using OWASP tools</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Web Application Assessments</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Hacking Owasp Orizon Project v1.0</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Ajax Security</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Practical Penetration Testing: Think Like an Attacker to Stop Attacks</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;">Linux Software Exploitation</li>
<li style="margin-bottom: 0.1em;"> Web server/services hardening using SELinux</li>
</ul>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">
Main Contact:</p>
<p style="margin: 0.4em 0px 0.5em; line-height: 1.5em;">Kate Hartmann<br />
OWASP Operations Director<br />
9175 Guilford Road, Suite 300<br />
Columbia, MD 21046, USA<br />
Phone: +1-301-575-0189<br />
Facsimile: +1-301-604-8033<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:kate.hartmann@owasp.org" target="_blank">kate.hartmann@owasp.org</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/10/15/owasp-european-summit-portugal/">OWASP European Summit - Portugal</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Why Risk Management Doesnt Work (?!)]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/2dce81ab5be406fb5211a9daea174b0c</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Several folks (Hi Daniel , Brent , David !) sent email &amp; twitters asking us our opinion on a Dark Reading article called Why Risk Management Doesnt Work which if you click on the link should come up...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several folks (Hi <a href="http://dmiessler.com/">Daniel</a>, <a href="http://stateofsecurity.com/">Brent</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/debix">David</a>!) sent email &amp; twitters asking us our opinion on a Dark Reading article called &#8220;<a href="http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=165107">Why Risk Management Doesn&#8217;t Work</a>&#8221; which if you click on the link should come up for you after seeing someone&#8217;s advertisement for a few seconds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming the author wants us to read the title as <strong>&#8220;Things to Look Out For in Performing Risk Analysis&#8221;</strong> and not <strong>&#8220;Risk Management is Folly - Stop, Stop, Stop!&#8221;</strong> The former is fine, the latter isn&#8217;t supported by the evidence presented by the subjects of the article.<br />
The subjects of the article are a <strong><a href="http://www.verizonbusiness.com/resources/security/databreachreport.pdf">good study from Wade Baker &amp; Co. at Verizon</a></strong>, and a report from RSA&#8217;s Security for Business Innovation Council. Let&#8217;s take a look at each of these and examine why what they&#8217;re saying might contribute to poor risk management, shall we?</p>
<p><strong>1.)  THE VERIZON REPORT</strong></p>
<p>The Verizon report is an analysis of some 530 forensic investigations their company performed.  It is well worth your time as it&#8217;s chock full of interesting information.  As it relates to the Dark Reading piece, a coarse summary would be that &#8220;likelihood&#8221; is &#8220;different&#8221; for different people and so you can&#8217;t use the same &#8220;likelihood&#8221; across different industries.</p>
<p>Distilled through the lens of FAIR:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;different threat communities may be applicable based on Probability of Action factors which include: Value, Level of Effort and Risk (of Getting Caught).&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, even further distilled and in the words of my six year old son,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Duh-uh&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>With regards to what I assume is the purpose of the article (What Doesn&#8217;t Work in Risk Analysis) this concept  seems just to rehash the old GIGO argument regarding risk analysis.  Great.  Can&#8217;t argue with that, nor it&#8217;s corollary QIQO (quality in, quality out).</p>
<p>But let me ask you -  <strong><em>is this really a problem common in your analysis</em></strong>?  Did reading this article make you go &#8220;Crap, we&#8217;ve been using data normalized across multiple industries in our analysis! They&#8217;re all wrong!&#8221;  Or have you already been accounting for the unique value proposition your company has to the specific threat community you&#8217;re worried about?  See, maybe I&#8217;m just not your average analyst, but even in my NIST/OCTAVE days, this has *never* been an issue for me.</p>
<p>Let me be specific, this is not a problem with Verizon&#8217;s very cool report.  It&#8217;s just that I don&#8217;t see what the big deal is.  This article is starting to feel like someone is running through the motions, trying to play the &#8221; a crazy title gets people to read a boring article&#8221; game.</p>
<p>Speaking of cool reports - You know what would be cool?  I think it would be interesting to see is the quality of these companies&#8217; &#8220;risk management process&#8221; established using good criteria,  and then correlated to the frequency and magnitude of real-world losses across the aggregate sample.  In other words, can we establish evidence that strong risk management practices not just reduce &#8220;risk&#8221; but also reduce actual incidents.</p>
<p><strong>2.)  THE RSA COUNCIL &#8220;EXPLORES WHY LEGACY METHODS OF EVALUATING INFORMATION SECURITY RISK DON&#8217;T WORK IN TODAY&#8217;S CONNECTED WORLD, IN WHICH ANY NEW BUSINESS INNOVATION INHERENTLY CARRIES SOME LEVEL OF RISK TO INFORMATION.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>This report from the RSA council puts forth a seemingly obvious proposition, that risk must be balanced by reward.  Why is this news?  Now as I read the article it&#8217;s not clear if:</p>
<ul>
<li>The RSA Council is claiming that the CISO&#8217;s office should be the ones determining reward.  Absurd.</li>
</ul>
<p>or</p>
<ul>
<li>Businesses aren&#8217;t doing a good job at determining risk and reward.</li>
</ul>
<p>Let&#8217;s go with the latter.  So I&#8217;m pretty sure (good) businesses do a good job at estimating reward.  Businesses I&#8217;ve been a part of?  We LOVE(D) estimating reward.  We don&#8217;t tend to start projects all willy-nilly. No we tend to be careful to identify the size of the market and what it will cost to address the market.  So what could the problem be that this RSA council is trying to address?  Maybe it has to do with something like the following:</p>
<p>Yesterday, I got a demo of an IT-GRC application that shall remain nameless.  It seemed to be very good at the &#8220;C&#8221; bits - lots of information on regulations and expectations and even what sorts of controls would answer the regulations (which is goofy, but we&#8217;ll have to talk about that later).  It also gave you the ability to build workflow quite nicely.  But it measured NOTHING.  There really was no observable &#8220;G&#8221; and &#8220;R&#8221; was really Medium X Low X Low = High sorts of stuff.  So let&#8217;s use this relatively expensive tool as evidence of what your average CISO is armed with going into a Risk/Reward sort of meeting.  I imagine a nice board room with wood-grain paneling and glass bowls filled with little chocolate covered mints designed to give everyone involved in the meeting (CEO, CFO, CIO, CSO, VP S&amp;M, etc&#8230;) a little sugar rush when needed and fresh breath.  The conversation goes a little something like this (apologies to <strong><a href="http://securosis.com/2008/09/17/the-fallacy-of-complete-and-accurate-risk-quantification/">Rich</a></strong>):</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Business Guy Who Wants to Make Money Because That&#8217;s What Businesses Do:</strong></em> Based on market studies, we believe that initial gross revenues from the new product and technology rollout will be eleventy gazillion dollars based on a 37% market penetration in Scandinavia, alone.</p>
<p><em><strong>CSO: </strong></em> Well now, we have a likelihood of &#8220;High&#8221; and a &#8220;C&#8221; impact of Medium, and an &#8220;I&#8221; impact of Low, and an &#8220;A&#8221; impact of &#8220;High&#8221; and because we are a (bank/hospital/retailer/basically any business that breathes anymore) we weight &#8220;C&#8221; by a factor of 2 - we multiplied those all together and got a &#8220;High&#8221;.</p>
<p>So can you guys delay the product rollout by 9 months and give me a bunch more money that&#8217;s not in the budget so that I can get this thing down to a &#8220;Medium&#8221;, please?</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, I just don&#8217;t see the problem with Information Risk Management being that our businesses have no idea what the rewards of business might be.  Now maybe we need get a seat in that boardroom just to be able to talk about our &#8220;Mediums&#8221;, sure.  And maybe we&#8217;re infantile in our ability to describe our problem space.  But I cannot fathom that &#8220;<em>Risk Management Doesn&#8217;t Work</em>&#8221; because businesses haven&#8217;t been considering &#8220;reward&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>WHY RISK MANAGEMENT MAY  NOT BE WORKIN&#8217; FOR YOU</strong></p>
<p>Two meta-categories of causation:</p>
<ul>
<li>No skills</li>
</ul>
<p>and/or</p>
<ul>
<li>No resources</li>
</ul>
<p>Any ancillary &#8220;cause&#8221; can be mapped to one of these categories.  You could have significant resources but crappy models, and have conversations like our imaginary CSO, above.  You could have really good models and people trained and motivated to use them, but scarce time &amp; money, so no conversation happens.</p>
<p>Now my question for you is - which does it make sense to acquire *first* to solve the &#8220;<em>Why Risk Management Doesn&#8217;t Work</em>&#8221; problems, skills or resources?</p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://riskmanagementinsight.com/riskanalysis/?p=459">Why Risk Management Doesnt Work (?!)</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Interop NY: The ROI of Social Networking]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/8c52c835add6dca7c33f67c83e868434</link>
      <guid>http://securityratty.com/article/8c52c835add6dca7c33f67c83e868434</guid>
      <description><![CDATA[How do you derive business value from social networks
Moderator: Nick Hoover, Senior Editor, InformationWeek
Speaker - Anne Berkowitch, Co-Founder &amp; CEO, SelectMinds
Speaker - J.B. Holston, CEO and...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you derive business <a href="http://www.interop.com/newyork/conference/enterprise-20.php" target="_blank">value from social networks</a>?</p>
<ul>
<li>Moderator: Nick Hoover, Senior Editor, InformationWeek</li>
<li>Speaker - Anne Berkowitch, Co-Founder &amp; CEO, SelectMinds</li>
<li>Speaker - J.B. Holston, CEO and President, NewsGator</li>
<li>Speaker - Umberto Milletti, CEO, InsideView</li>
</ul>
<p>Businesses can take advantage of social networks by finding innovative ways to reach out to people. Looking at who you know and how you know them can benefit you. Knowing a personal connection to someone that you are trying to contact (for sales) is helpful. The blurring between home, personal, and business life is making this information more available and better able to leverage. People are able to capture more valuable long term information from social networks.</p>
<p>A lot of social network applications can be taken from the talent management space. Deploying alumni networks as a talent source is also a great asset. Alumni represent a well-known and relevant population. This provides a great economic benefit from a social network.</p>
<p>If you are running a sales organization and looking at building a pipeline of leads, consider how these leads are relevant. The ability to get more leads is apparent in finding the right person, right connection, and right contact. Underlying everything are productivity and efficiency. How much time are sales reps spending researching and pursuing each opportunity? With information on social networks, the time can be greatly decreased. Knowledge sharing is something that can be actively measured.</p>
<p>The ROI varies with the business issue that&#8217;s trying to be addressed by a particular network. Recruiting for example has a very concrete, measurable ROI. Knowledge share gets a little more tricky. How do you measure how much is shared and the impact on business systems? Businesses need to determine what specific goal they are trying to address.</p>
<p>CFOs want to see ROI, not intuitive information. If you can demonstrate engagement and participation in these networks and knowledge sharing tools, more and more executives are getting comfortable seeing how it&#8217;s used at a qualitative and process level. It&#8217;s a very case by case basis.</p>
<p>One major crisis that we see in our customers is the competition between sales and marketing. Each wants to do their own thing, they go together like oil and water. However, the push of the economy is now forcing them work together. This is a great opportunity for IT to step in and help them collaborate and be more productive.</p>
<p>Other resistance from companies are how to manage what they are trying to accomplish while still giving employees free reign of sites like Facebook. What are the incentives for using these technologies? How does it fit into your company culture and productivity scale? You must bring meaning to the structure of engaging in social networks.</p>
<p>Social networks like LinkedIn and Facebook would not exist if people did not contribute information to them. However, if people don&#8217;t know that it is there, it does not exist. People need to see the value and get drawn in to engage. There are two ways that companies get into social networks. Tie it into the business process. The general idea of social networks are intuitive and easy to understand, which make it an easier case to present to chief executives. Make it clear - how do you go about it and what&#8217;s the value?</p>
<p>Social networks are intrinsically about extending the network, the more contacts you have, the more to choose from when researching a specific contact. It also has to be integrated into your dataworkflow. Companies are going to build a variety of networks inside and outside the enterprise. The big companies (SAP, IBM) are all rushing to offer collaborative and social network functionality. However, this is not entirely useful unless it&#8217;s integrated into the entire infrastructure.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[Business In Thailand - Part 1: The Challenge]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/9f1f804e00135ef904eb97970171c32e</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Recently someone asked about business in Thailand.Here is my first post on this challenging topic
First of all, as background information, I learned the Thai alphabet(script with 44 consonants and 32...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently someone asked about business in Thailand.  Here is my first post on this challenging topic:</p>
<p>First of all, as background information, I learned the Thai alphabet (script with 44 consonants and 32 vowels) nearly 20 years ago, so I have have a pretty decent foundation for the Thai language compared to most foreigners visting or working in Thailand.   I can read (slowly) and speak better than 99.99+ percent of all foreigners in Thailand.  For this reason, I thought it was &#8221;the right thing to do&#8221; to redirect my career to a &#8220;new challenge&#8221; in the business climate of Thailand as I continue to improve my foreign language skills.   I wanted to help Thailand progress in IT and IT security, so where else would I go but where I have second language skills?</p>
<p>This was no small decision as you can imagine.  Your career and life changes quite dramatically when you give up a long established consulting practice in the US and dive into business in a foreign land, seeking a new challenge.  I can frankly tell you thatit is more difficult to do business in Thailand (as a foreigner) than I expected, for a number of reasons.  Here is my first off-topic post on this topic.</p>
<p>First of all, it is not legal for foreigners to directly own land in Thailand.  Foreigners can &#8221;own&#8221; land using a variety of legal loopholes, proxy owners and shell companies; but all of this is risky and not advised.  Many foreigners lose a lot of money coming to Thailand and attempting to buy land via various &#8220;structures&#8221;.  Some get lucky, but the entire process of foreigners buying and selling land is quite risky and not recommended.</p>
<p>Foreigners can legally own condominiums, under certain conditions, but this &#8220;foreign market&#8221; results in inflated prices for condos in Thailand that are traded in an &#8220;artificial market place&#8221; designed for foreigners.   Condos in Bangkok and major resort areas that are up-to-par with condos in the US can easily cost more than condos in major cities in the US.  Hence, the cost of living in Thailand is not as economical as some might believe when you visit Thailand as a tourist.</p>
<p>Second, business in Thailand can best be described as protectionism with discrimination where the government has placed many barriers to entry to foreigners working and competing in Thailand.     Every foreigner must have a work permit and these work permits are expensive and time consuming to maintain.   If you own a business you must pay high professional service fees for &#8220;auditors&#8221; to perform annual and semiannual audits regardless of how much income you have (including zero).   Firms in Thailand charge thousands of dollars for these &#8221;audits&#8221;.      </p>
<p>Third, if you operate a business in Thailand, you must have a place of business (you cannot legally work from your condo you bought at high prices!), so you are forced, by law, to lease office space.   Foreigners from the US, for example, must be paid a minimum of 50,000 Thai Baht per month, so the government will take 10 percent of that each month as their share of tax withholdings.  Startups with no income simply pay income taxes against their personal savings to comply with the law.  Therefore, to start a company and maintain the business in Thailand, you are required to pay significant startup, monthly, semi-annual and annual fees, permits, tax, leases, visas, etc. </p>
<p>Forth, generating incoming revenue in Thailand can be quite difficult in a climate of both protectionism and discrimination.   In Thailand, it is easy when you are spending money.  This is the &#8221;Land of Smiles&#8221; that tourists see and experience.   However, when you are legally permitted to work in Thailand and trying to generate in-country income, you cannot help but notice the protectionism and discrimination against foreigners working and living here.  Many foreigners working in Thailand just &#8220;give up&#8221; because the barriers to business success are quite high.</p>
<p>Fifth, on top of the challenges of protectionism/discrimination regarding foreigners and foreign investments, which I have only just scratched the surface here, is the overall global business slowdown combined with a climate of political instability which I am sure you have seen in the news.  Thailand has seen 18 coups since 1932.   Currently, <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/state-of-emergency-declared-in-thailand-916866.html" target="_blank">Thailand is under a State-of-Emergency </a> which negatively impacts business even more.  Sound challenging? </p>
<p>Most people who live and work in Thailand have the opinion that it is far better to enjoy being a tourist here. Working in Thailand is very difficult for many reasons.   Being a tourist in Thailand is completely different than working here.  When you are a tourist, foreign currently flows from you into Thailand, so life in Thailand as a tourist is fun and friendly, hence the &#8220;Land of Smiles&#8221; you have heard about or experienced.     However, when you are working in Thailand and trying to generate income from Thailand versus bringing in foreign currency, you don&#8217;t see the &#8220;Land of Smiles&#8221; quite the same anymore.</p>
<p>Without getting into too many details in this post, I can simply say that a foreigner doing business in Thailand experiences both protectionism and discrimination.  I came to Thailand hoping to contribute my experience to help the Kingdom.  However, sometimes it feels like foreigners are only welcome if you are working for free, giving seminars for free, and bringing in lots of foreign currency here.</p>
<p>In a future post on business in Thailand I will dive into some details on a number of topics that might be of interest to readers who will never have a chance to come and work here.   </p>
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      <title><![CDATA[McIrony: An unexpected response from McAfee]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/b7777c8973f62604f441965769aa7200</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Irony: incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs

Right before Black Hat, I put together what I believed was a pretty strong arguement against McAfee Secure - Hacker Safe, at...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Irony: incongruity between what might be expected and what actually occurs.<br /><br />Right before Black Hat, I put together what I believed was a pretty strong  arguement against McAfee Secure - Hacker Safe, at a level heretofore unexplored. I believe it was more damaging than anything I've said to date, and as such, presented potential risk for me. So I ran it by some friends before publishing it. Then a most extraordinary thing happened. I had a long chat with <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1668" target="_blank">Nate McFeters</a>, who described an awakening he'd recently experienced. He shared with me the belief that a better approach to potentially negative security research might be to try to create a positive outcome, and worry less about press cycles or exposure, the 15 minutes of fame if you will. He pointed to people like <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1030" target="_blank">Mark Dowd</a> as an example of people who conduct crushingly good research, and steer clear of the petty, ego driven  bulls**t. <br />There I sat, repose like the thinking <a href="http://www.downshoredrift.com/photos/uncategorized/thinking_man.gif" target="_blank">man</a>, frozen for minutes. "Nate", I said, "I think you're right." <br />What do I aspire to as an information security professional; more readership or street cred than the next guy, or the respect of my peers for contributing to the greater <a href="http://holisticinfosec.org/content/view/21/31/" target="_blank">good</a>? Attention, press cycles, 15 minutes...it all has its allure, trust me on this. <br />But at the end of the day, I really do want to contribute to the greater good.<br />So I did something different. I sent my findings to McAfee and offered them an opportunity to respond, rather than publish first, ask questions later. <br />Here's the real kicker. <br />They responded.<br />I had a three hour lunch this past Thursday with two gentlemen from McAfee, who flew up from the Bay Area to Seattle to have a face to face with me. This, all by itself, speaks volumes to me. In addition to meeting with Kirk Lawrence, the new Director of Product Management for McAfee Secure, there I sat with, of all people, Joe Pierini, the very guy who has suffered more than his share of abuse, up to and including the <a href="http://pwnie-awards.org/2008/awards.html">Pwnie</a>.  As I have been a direct contributor and participant in heckling Joe, you can imagine our meeting could have been uncomfortable. It was not. <br />I have had expectations of McAfee and Scan Alert that to date have not been met, or my (your) perception has been that they have not been met.<br />This meeting was designed as an opportunity to voice some of these expectations, and see if McAfee, in turn, believed there was any merit to them.<br />Surprisingly, at least as spoken, we weren't all that far apart.<br />While, as a naive idealist, I believe that security should come before conversions, I am also grounded enough of a realize that the most attainable goal can be a marriage of both. This premise frames my expectations of McAfee. <br />Can they not be more of a "thought leader" for all the Ma & Pa websites who rely on McAfee Secure, first for a higher conversion rate, then security?<br />Can they not hold merchants to a higher standard, without alienating them and losing business?<br />Can they not embrace the security research community in a fashion that McAfee, the security community, the merchants, and consumers can all benefit from?<br />Can they not be more transparent in their approach, providing more details and feedback about their methods, their findings, and their vision?<br />I know McAfee Secure - Hacker Safe scans can find vulnerabilities.<br />I know they report the vulnerabilities to merchants.<br />What happens thereafter is where things begin to break down. <br />Can the scan engine be improved to find more vulns? Sure. That's really not that big a deal; technology can always be improved.<br />But, regarding holding merchants to a higher standard; therein is the whole point of this debate. <br />Anyone can throw a badge on a site. <br />But what happens when the site proves vulnerable is the key. I'll be candid here: I don't give a damn about the merchant at that point; it's the consumer who is at risk and needs something better from McAfee and their peers.<br />So, here begins a different approach. I know that making changes at a company the size of McAfee can be likened to the three miles it takes to turn around an aircraft carrier. I'm willing to work with them, and allow for a positive outcome.<br />I have been told that, in two or three weeks, we can expect a published standard, that clearly defines exactly what the McAfee Secure product offering adheres to, inclusive of their expectations for merchant remediation timelines, potential badge downgrades for unresolved vulnerabilities, and hopefully even a more clear stance on XSS.<br />I have been told that I will have the opportunity to discuss this standard, and invite feedback. Any <a href="http://holisticinfosec.org/content/view/19/29/" target="_blank">standard</a> is better than no standard. <br />I have also been told that this is just the beginning of changes that will lead to more of what I have hoped for in my expectations, over the next 6 months or so.<br />I am hopeful that we can take McAfee at their word, and even if slowly, see a positive outcome.<br /><br /><a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/08/mcirony-unexpected-response-from-mcafee.html&title=McIrony:%20An%20unexpected%20response%20from%20McAfee " title="McIrony: An unexpected response from McAfee ">del.icio.us</a> | <a href="http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&amp;url=http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/08/mcirony-unexpected-response-from-mcafee.html" title="McIrony: An unexpected response from McAfee ">digg</a>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/08/mcirony-unexpected-response-from-mcafee.html">McIrony: An unexpected response from McAfee</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Microsoft and BearingPoint see space to play in the Enterprise GRC market]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/36af1d0bb845709d797550944d74b9e3</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Earlier this week in a joint press release, Microsoft and BearingPoint announced the new BearingPoint Enterprise Governance, Risk, and Compliance product offering. Ok... it will be a while before the...]]></description>
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<p>Earlier this week in a joint press release, Microsoft and BearingPoint announced the new <a href="http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20080805005278&amp;newsLang=en">BearingPoint Enterprise Governance, Risk, and Compliance</a> product offering. Ok... it will be a while before the more veteran enterprise GRC vendors start really losing sleep over this deal. But BearingPoint continues to be a <a href="http://www.forrester.com/Research/Document/0,,40476,00.html">top risk consulting firm</a>, and Microsoft’s reach through the business user community will be an attractive benefit for compliance and risk professionals trying to get hundreds or thousands of staff members to contribute to the GRC program. There’s potential here for sure.</p>

<p>With software giants IBM, Oracle, SAP, and now Microsoft increasing their level of commitment in the enterprise GRC space, the 2-3 year market outlook continues to change. The risk and regulatory landscape is only going to get tougher to handle, and the more GRC programs can run seamlessly with existing business processes and applications, the better. The vendors focused solely on GRC still have the advantage for now, but market consolidation is on its way... and it’s coming maybe just a tiny bit faster than it was at the start of this week.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <source url="http://blogs.forrester.com/srm/2008/08/microsoft-and-b.html">Microsoft and BearingPoint see space to play in the Enterprise GRC market</source>
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