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      <title><![CDATA[Links for 2008-11-25 [del.icio.us]]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[The Myth of Software Support Chris Swans Weblog
More On Why I Think Free Microsoft AV Will Be Good For Consumers | securosis.com My belief is that we essentially have both conditions today (low...]]></description>
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<li><a href="http://thestateofme.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/the-myth-of-software-support/">The Myth of Software Support &laquo; Chris Swan&rsquo;s Weblog</a></li>
<li><a href="http://securosis.com/2008/11/25/more-on-why-i-think-free-microsoft-av-will-be-good-for-consumers/">More On Why I Think Free Microsoft AV Will Be Good For Consumers | securosis.com</a><br/>
My belief is that we essentially have both conditions today (low innovation, easy evasion), and the nature of attacks will continue to change rapidly enough to exceed the current capabilities of AV.</li>
<li><a href="http://securosis.com/2008/11/21/idiocy/">Idiocy | securosis.com</a></li>
<li><a href="http://securosis.com/2008/11/19/the-impact-of-free-antivirus-from-microsoft/">The Impact Of Free Antivirus From Microsoft | securosis.com</a><br/>
This gives them enough time to avoid suddenly losing 40% (don’t quote me on that, I’m on an airplane and just guessing) of profits over 12 months. The real losers will be the consumer-only AV companies without diversified portfolios or a larger enterprise base.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.csoonline.com/article/463067/Rich_Mogull_Infosec_Trends_for_">Rich Mogull: 7 Infosec Trends for 2009 - CSO Online - Security and Risk</a></li>
<li><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10096254-92.html">Safe bets for IT spending in '09 | Business Tech - CNET News</a><br/>
Second, security management will merge with log management. That works for ArcSight, RSA, LogLogic, and LogRhythm.</li>
<li><a href="http://darkmatterlabs.blogspot.com/2008/11/land-of-confusion.html">Dark Matters: Land of Confusion</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.internetnews.com/software/article.php/3786036/Enterprise+SaaS+Buyers+Want+More+Than+Uptime.htm">InternetNews Realtime IT News - Enterprise SaaS Buyers Want More Than Uptime</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.socaltech.com/high_tower_software_shuts_down/s-0018681.html">High Tower Software Shuts Down | socalTECH.com</a><br/>
Aliso Viejo-based High Tower Software, a venture-backed developer of security, compliance, and log management software, has shut down.</li>
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      <title><![CDATA[Game on!]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/811075c6e59d5ec00b606569ae49ba5d</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[In my last blog, we looked at increasing complexity on the part of both the good guys who are building legitimate businesses and on the part of the bad guys who are building a dark network of sorts...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my last blog, we looked at  increasing complexity on the part of both the &ldquo;good&rdquo; guys who are building  legitimate businesses and on the part of the &ldquo;bad guys&rdquo; who are building a  &ldquo;dark network&rdquo; of sorts that is remarkably like the first.&nbsp; Today, I&rsquo;d like to dig into that and look at  a system for explaining this; and I thought I&rsquo;d use the phrase we used playing  street hockey in my youth in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada">Canada</a> when the cars cleared the road, and  the game got serious again: <B>game on!</b>...</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <source url="http://www.rsa.com/blog/blog_entry.aspx?id=1380">Game on!</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Investing in Your IT Security Career in Tough Times]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/73dfed3db4d8429f88c002b4ea28bf53</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[When meeting someone new and describing my background in this industry I often say &quot;I've seen the best of times, I've seen the worst of times and most of what falls in between.&quot; I've been recruiting...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[When meeting someone new and describing my background in this industry I often say "I've seen the best of times, I've seen the worst of times and most of what falls in between." I've been recruiting in Information Security long enough to have experienced the heady times of the dot.com boom and the dark days that followed after it all came crashing down. I've also been here as the industry has grown and evolved-sometimes as a result of and sometimes in spite of significant difficulties. This evolution leads to adaptation, and it's the ability of people to adapt and rise above one challenge after another that makes our industry so dynamic.]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/110408-investing-in-your-it-security.html?fsrc=rss-security">Investing in Your IT Security Career in Tough Times</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Pluralsight On-Demand is now live!]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/3ea5514857ccf3eabb6c0b8aaad649bb</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I've been rather dark over the last couple of months as I helped to finish up Pluralsight's online training offering, Pluralsight On-Demand . I'm psyched that we finally shipped
Be sure to check it...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve been rather dark over the last couple of months as I helped to finish up <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com" target="_blank">Pluralsight&#39;s</a> online training offering, <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/Default.aspx" target="_blank">Pluralsight On-Demand</a>. I&#39;m psyched that we finally shipped!</p> <p>Be sure to check it out soon (you can preview bits of each course right now for free), as we&#39;re offering a limited-time early adopter discount that&#39;s good for the life of your subscription. Our online courses are told by the authors themselves, with names that you&#39;ll recognize, as many are MSDN Magazine contributing editors and book authors on their topics.</p> <p>Courses we now offer online include:</p> <blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=wcf-fundamentals">WCF Fundamentals</a> by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=aaron-skonnard">Aaron Skonnard</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=wf-fundamentals" target="_blank">Windows Workflow Fundamentals</a>, by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=matt-milner" target="_blank">Matt Milner</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=wpf-fundamentals">WPF Fundamentals</a>, by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=ian-griffiths">Ian Griffiths</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=silverlight-fundamentals">Silverlight Fundamentals</a>, by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=ian-griffiths">Ian Griffiths</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=aspdotnet-fundamentals" target="_blank">ASP.NET 3.5 Fundamentals</a>, by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=fritz-onion" target="_blank">Fritz Onion</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=aspdotnet-ajax-fundamentals" target="_blank">ASP.NET Ajax Fundamentals</a>, by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=fritz-onion" target="_blank">Fritz Onion</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=linq-fundamentals">LINQ Fundamentals</a> by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=scott-allen">Scott Allen</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=abts-fundamentals">BizTalk Fundamentals</a> by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=matt-milner" target="_blank">Matt Milner</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/olt/Course.aspx?n=btsr2-fundamentals">BizTalk Server 2006 R2 Fundamentals</a> by <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/main/instructor.aspx?name=jon-flanders">Jon Flanders</a></p></blockquote> <p>We&#39;ll be expanding this library of content in the months to come, as we continue to grow this online resource. I plan on adding modules on the <a href="https://connect.microsoft.com/site/sitehome.aspx?SiteID=642&amp;wa=wsignin1.0" target="_blank">Geneva</a> family of identity products (Geneva Server, Geneva Framework, Geneva CardSpace) announced at PDC this week.</p> <p>I&#39;ve learned a lot of interesting tidbits as I helped to develop the back end infrastructure for Pluralsight On-Demand, and now that I&#39;m not so crammed for time, I&#39;ll be sharing those insights here on this blog.</p> <p>Congrats to all who helped bring this incredible resource to the public!</p> <p>Aaron <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/blogs/aaron/archive/2008/10/29/announcing-pluralsight-on-demand.aspx">has more details</a> if you want to know about pricing, customer feedback, and so on.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=54152" width="1" height="1">]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/blogs/keith/archive/2008/10/29/pluralsight-on-demand-is-now-live.aspx">Pluralsight On-Demand is now live!</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[What's Happiness Got to Do With It?]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/141d4a55a5d3195a7aaaa7ca4b3a3c7e</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Gartner's own John Pescatore has issued a 12 world post
The best security program is at the business with the happiest customers

Happiness? Really? That's the measure of program effectiveness? I...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gartner&#39;s own John Pescatore has issued a 12 world <a href="http://blogs.gartner.com/john_pescatore/2008/10/28/twelve-word-tuesday-measuring-security-program-effectiveness/">post:</a></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; ">The best security program is at the business with the happiest customers.</span></p></blockquote><br /><div>Happiness? Really? That&#39;s the measure of program effectiveness? I would see those 12 words and raise them one word (13 if you&#39;re scoring at home):</div><br /><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p>There&#39;s a fine line between happy customers and playing piano in a bordello.</p></blockquote><br /><div>I mean the people running hedge funds and derivative books at AIG, Lehman and friends had lots of happy customers for the last decade!</div><br /><div>To me the happy customer is a classic IT copout &quot;we just did what the &quot;business&quot; asked&quot;. Like we&#39;re just a bystander or something. Its our job to create business value and be business like. We should seek to <span style="font-style: italic;">empower</span> out customers, not make them happy.&#0160;</div><br /><div>Please understand I am not that guy who says IT security has to be the &quot;bad cops&quot; who deny everything the business wants to do. Just saying it is our job to raise the bar where we can. Raising the bar does not always create super happy customers in the short run, but it does empower companies.</div><br /><div>Unfortunately, playing piano in the bordello is what a lot of security groups do and even big analyst firms. The path of least resistance ain&#39;t always the way. Here is an example. I was at a client many years ago, they wanted to build a big Identity Management solution, so of course they wrote a big RFI got responses from Sun, IBM, Oracle and friends. The bids were in the $3-5 million range. Pretty big projects for an Infosec team. So what do you do? Call up a big analyst firm and get some advice, right?</div><br /><div>A week goes by and we get an audience with the &quot;guru&quot; from the Big Analyst Firm. The client has pretty detailed requirements, what systems they want to connect to, what use cases they are looking to solve for, &#0160;and so on. We anxiously await the knowledge the analyst is about to transfer to us. His response was as follows - &quot;what kind of shop are you? IBM shop? Oracle shop?&quot; &quot;Ummm...we are a huge company we have everything.&quot; &quot;Well if you are more of a IBM shop you should go with them. If you are more of a Oracle shop you should go with them.&quot; That was the extent of a 30 minute conversation. True story.</div><br /><div>Of course, the one value proposition of the Big Analyst Firms is that they supposedly can tell you what everyone else is supposedly doing. There is some value in this I grant you. And it does make for happy customers because even when you force your customers to change, you can say &quot;Well geez, I know its hard but the Big Analyst Firm says that everyone is doing it.&quot; But is this security improvement?</div><br /><div>Back in 2004, I went to a great security conference, it was Information Security Decisions (<a href="http://infosecurityconference.techtarget.com/conference/index.html">they are back in Chicago next week</a>). It was in Chicago, downtown on the river. Tom Davern even took us all out on a boat for lunch one day. Anyway, there was one truly great talk there. It wasn&#39;t Fred Cohen debating <a href="http://cigital.com/justiceleague/">Gary McGraw</a> on application security which was outstanding (in which Fred uttered the memorable line &quot;I agree with Gary everywhere he agrees with me.&quot; (Gary won the debate, his best line - &quot;We know how to win the software security war, but we don&#39;t know how to manage the peace&quot; still the problem today actually)) It wasn&#39;t Pete Lindstrom showing his security metrics framework (which is still a great starting point). it wasn&#39;t Dan Geer&#39;s fireside chat.</div><br /><div>The truly great talk, though, was by the now departed <a href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2007/02/thinking_about_.html">Robert Garigue</a>. It was called &quot;Its the End of the CISO as I Know It, (And I Feel Fine).&quot; The whole end to end talk was wonderful, there are several things in there that I still use every single day like the separate security models for Infostructure and Infrastructure but the point I want to talk about is the CISO role.</div><br /><div>Garigue talked about the two most prevalent CISO models - the jester and the bad cop. The jester CISO</div><br /><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Sees a lot</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Can tell the king he has no clothes</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Can tell the king he really is ugly</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Does not get killed by the king</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Nice to have around but…how much security improvement comes from this ?</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span></p><div><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;">The jester has happy customers! At least for awhile.</span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;">Again I grant you bad cop is not the way to go either (and while this already long post could read harsh on John Pescatore&#39;s pithy summary, I give him a lot of points for saying that security needs to be customer conscious).</span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;">We have all seen bad cop CISOs who</span></div><div><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Changes happened faster that he was able to move</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Did not read the signs</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Good intentions went unfulfilled</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">A brutal way to ending a promising career</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Sad to have around but…how much security improvement comes from this ?</span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"></span></p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">Obviously these models of CISOs are not solving our information security problems. Instead Dr. Garigue points us to Charlemagne as a better model</p><blockquote style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; "><p>King of the Franks and Holy Roman Emperor; conqueror of the Lombards and Saxons (742-814) - reunited much of Europe after the Dark Ages.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">He set up other schools, opening them to peasant boys as well as nobles. Charlemagne never stopped studying. He brought an English monk, Alcuin, and other scholars to his court - encouraging the development of a standard script.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">He set up money standards to encourage commerce, tried to build a Rhine-Danube canal, and urged better farming methods. He especially worked to spread education and Christianity in every class of people.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">He relied on Counts, Margraves and Missi Domini to help him.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">Margraves - Guard the frontier districts of the empire. Margraves retained, within their own jurisdictions, the authority of dukes in the feudal arm of the empire.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">Missi Domini - Messengers of the King.</p></blockquote><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; "></p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">This is the way forward! Find software security champions in the architecture and development groups,help them understand the real security issues. They will find solutions you have not thought of. Same for DBAs, same for business analysts even. Its all about beating the bushes, education, and decentralizing security services. Specifically, he points out this important mandate for IT security</p><p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">Knowledge of risky things is of strategic value</span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">How to know today tomorrow’s unknown ?</span><br /><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px; ">How to structure information security processes in an organization so as to identify and address the NEXT categories of risks ?</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #333333; line-height: 19px;"></span></p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">To me this is our mandate and measure of effectiveness. Empower our customers, educate, and create business value. If I am a CISO &#0160;I don&#39;t want 20 people reporting to me who do firewall ruleset changes. I want one champion in 20 different groups - development teams, architects, DBAs, business analysts.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; ">A concrete example, infosec can continue to go along with the herd and follow the &quot;what everyone else is doing architecture&quot; meanwhile developers are connecting <span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">every single thing</span></span> in your business to the Web. I have been doing integration and new technology projects for a long time, and let me tell you - Change does not always create happy customers in the short run. But the chart below shows that information security is maybe more concerned with not causing waves rather than adapting.</p><p style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; text-align: left; "></p>
<div><a href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/19/innovatecompare_2.png"><img alt="Innovatecompare_2" border="0" height="167" src="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/images/2008/05/19/innovatecompare_2.png" title="Innovatecompare_2" width="300" /></a><p></p></div><div>How long can developers evolve, connect everything and security people not change anything? Herb Stein said, &quot;things that can&#39;t go on forever, don&#39;t. &quot;At some point these chickens are coming home to roost, there is a yawning gap between rapidly evolution connecting the enterprise and the 13 year old and counting security architecture that &quot;Everyone else is using&quot; and when those chicken come home to roost you may not have happy customers then. Here is my 12 words:</div><br /><p></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #333333; font-family: Arial; font-size: 14px; line-height: 17px; ">The best security program is at the business with sustainable competitive advantage.</span></p></blockquote>]]></content:encoded>
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<p>This is a quick and dirty video documentary of the things that when on around the talks and event at <a href="http://www.phreaknic.info">Phreaknic 12 </a>(2008). Don't watch if you get sick at shaky cam movies like Blair Witch or Cloverfield. A rough timeline of the content in the video is as follows: </p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Intro and leaving Louisville with Brian. Morgellon talks about hacking the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduino</a> micro controller platform.&nbsp;Sorteal talks about the LiVes Open Source video editor. AT&amp;T Batman building by night. Mojo-JoJo soldering some stuff for the shooting range. The patron gods of hackerdom. Registration. Con swag overview. Morgellon&nbsp; gets his discreet logic on. AK-47 building with HandGrip and Buttstock. Froggy talks up Notacon, which I plan to go to next year. Skydog explains the Jware chair toss event, and then we compete. Rootwars hacker wargames. I ask <a href="http://dualcoremusic.com/nerdcore/">Int80 about using his nerdcore</a> music in some of my videos. NotLarry explains rootwars. Some iPhone hacking with <a href="http://leebaird.com/Me/Hacking.html">Lee Baird</a> and John Skinner. I do a little <a href="http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/bluecasing1">Bluecaseing/Warnibbling </a>with the Bluetooth on my Nokia n810. John, Lee, Brian and I go to the German restaurant. I blind DOSman with the light from my camera and check out what folks are doing with the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduinos</a> Droops brought for folks to play with. I check back in on R00tW4rz. I blind Droops. I talk Ettercap filters with <a href="http://www.rmccurdy.com/">operat0r</a>. USB door key fun with the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduino</a>. More breadboard fun. Nokia n810 + Ettercap Filter + Lemon-part = win. <a href="http://dualcoremusic.com/nerdcore/">Int80</a> gets down with his own bad self, and the rest of Phreaknic. I find an energy drink with protein. Folks play with the hardware keyloggers I brought, and we have some epic fail with the IBM Model M + USB adapter + Mac OS 10.5. <a href="http://www.winnschwartau.com/">Winn Schwartau</a> joins in on the keylogger fun. <a href="http://www.packetsniffers.org/">DOSman and Zack</a> use a directional antenna from the 9th floor to search downtown Nashville for WiFi access points. Zoom in on Al. John and Lee eat jerky. <a href="http://www.hak5.org/">Daren and Shannon from Hak5</a> blind me this time. :) Then they do a quick interview. I interview <a href="http://www.digome.com/">TRiP</a> about the legalities of wardriving, sniffing and leaving your access point open so you have plausible deniability of copyright infringement (most likely it won't hold water in court if you are a computer geek). I give Hak5 Daren beef jerky. <a href="http://www.offensive-security.com/">Ziplock</a> had more con badges than God. I meet up with Iridium. I talk with Nightcarnage about the audio/video setup at Phreaknic. As I predicted, the <a href="http://www.shmoo.com/~gdead/Site/Home.html">Potters</a> won the WiFi Race. I say why this was the best Phreaknic ever. Using green lasers on crack dealers. Techno in the dark, the Aiptek action HD does not do well in low light. Nicodemius shows off his Minority Report like multi-touch table. Hula hoop contest. I check back in with Jeff Cotton and his USB keyed door. I strap on my gear to leave the con. Brian and I do a wrap up of our thoughts on Phreaknic 2008.</p>
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<p>This is a quick and dirty video documentary of the things that when on around the talks and event at <a href="http://www.phreaknic.info">Phreaknic 12 </a>(2008). Don't watch if you get sick at shaky cam movies like Blair Witch or Cloverfield. A rough timeline of the content in the video is as follows: </p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Intro and leaving Louisville with Brian. Morgellon talks about hacking the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduino</a> micro controller platform.&nbsp;Sorteal talks about the LiVes Open Source video editor. AT&amp;T Batman building by night. Mojo-JoJo soldering some stuff for the shooting range. The patron gods of hackerdom. Registration. Con swag overview. Morgellon&nbsp; gets his discreet logic on. AK-47 building with HandGrip and Buttstock. Froggy talks up Notacon, which I plan to go to next year. Skydog explains the Jware chair toss event, and then we compete. Rootwars hacker wargames. I ask <a href="http://dualcoremusic.com/nerdcore/">Int80 about using his nerdcore</a> music in some of my videos. NotLarry explains rootwars. Some iPhone hacking with <a href="http://leebaird.com/Me/Hacking.html">Lee Baird</a> and John Skinner. I do a little <a href="http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/bluecasing1">Bluecaseing/Warnibbling </a>with the Bluetooth on my Nokia n810. John, Lee, Brian and I go to the German restaurant. I blind DOSman with the light from my camera and check out what folks are doing with the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduinos</a> Droops brought for folks to play with. I check back in on R00tW4rz. I blind Droops. I talk Ettercap filters with <a href="http://www.rmccurdy.com/">operat0r</a>. USB door key fun with the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduino</a>. More breadboard fun. Nokia n810 + Ettercap Filter + Lemon-part = win. <a href="http://dualcoremusic.com/nerdcore/">Int80</a> gets down with his own bad self, and the rest of Phreaknic. I find an energy drink with protein. Folks play with the hardware keyloggers I brought, and we have some epic fail with the IBM Model M + USB adapter + Mac OS 10.5. <a href="http://www.winnschwartau.com/">Winn Schwartau</a> joins in on the keylogger fun. <a href="http://www.packetsniffers.org/">DOSman and Zack</a> use a directional antenna from the 9th floor to search downtown Nashville for WiFi access points. Zoom in on Al. John and Lee eat jerky. <a href="http://www.hak5.org/">Daren and Shannon from Hak5</a> blind me this time. :) Then they do a quick interview. I interview <a href="http://www.digome.com/">TRiP</a> about the legalities of wardriving, sniffing and leaving your access point open so you have plausible deniability of copyright infringement (most likely it won't hold water in court if you are a computer geek). I give Hak5 Daren beef jerky. <a href="http://www.offensive-security.com/">Ziplock</a> had more con badges than God. I meet up with Iridium. I talk with Nightcarnage about the audio/video setup at Phreaknic. As I predicted, the <a href="http://www.shmoo.com/~gdead/Site/Home.html">Potters</a> won the WiFi Race. I say why this was the best Phreaknic ever. Using green lasers on crack dealers. Techno in the dark, the Aiptek action HD does not do well in low light. Nicodemius shows off his Minority Report like multi-touch table. Hula hoop contest. I check back in with Jeff Cotton and his USB keyed door. I strap on my gear to leave the con. Brian and I do a wrap up of our thoughts on Phreaknic 2008.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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<p>This is a quick and dirty video documentary of the things that when on around the talks and event at <a href="http://www.phreaknic.info">Phreaknic 12 </a>(2008). Don't watch if you get sick at shaky cam movies like Blair Witch or Cloverfield. A rough timeline of the content in the video is as follows: </p>
<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Intro and leaving Louisville with Brian. Morgellon talks about hacking the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduino</a> micro controller platform.&nbsp;Sorteal talks about the LiVes Open Source video editor. AT&amp;T Batman building by night. Mojo-JoJo soldering some stuff for the shooting range. The patron gods of hackerdom. Registration. Con swag overview. Morgellon&nbsp; gets his discreet logic on. AK-47 building with HandGrip and Buttstock. Froggy talks up Notacon, which I plan to go to next year. Skydog explains the Jware chair toss event, and then we compete. Rootwars hacker wargames. I ask <a href="http://dualcoremusic.com/nerdcore/">Int80 about using his nerdcore</a> music in some of my videos. NotLarry explains rootwars. Some iPhone hacking with <a href="http://leebaird.com/Me/Hacking.html">Lee Baird</a> and John Skinner. I do a little <a href="http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/bluecasing1">Bluecaseing/Warnibbling </a>with the Bluetooth on my Nokia n810. John, Lee, Brian and I go to the German restaurant. I blind DOSman with the light from my camera and check out what folks are doing with the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduinos</a> Droops brought for folks to play with. I check back in on R00tW4rz. I blind Droops. I talk Ettercap filters with <a href="http://www.rmccurdy.com/">operat0r</a>. USB door key fun with the <a href="http://dailyduino.com/">Arduino</a>. More breadboard fun. Nokia n810 + Ettercap Filter + Lemon-part = win. <a href="http://dualcoremusic.com/nerdcore/">Int80</a> gets down with his own bad self, and the rest of Phreaknic. I find an energy drink with protein. Folks play with the hardware keyloggers I brought, and we have some epic fail with the IBM Model M + USB adapter + Mac OS 10.5. <a href="http://www.winnschwartau.com/">Winn Schwartau</a> joins in on the keylogger fun. <a href="http://www.packetsniffers.org/">DOSman and Zack</a> use a directional antenna from the 9th floor to search downtown Nashville for WiFi access points. Zoom in on Al. John and Lee eat jerky. <a href="http://www.hak5.org/">Daren and Shannon from Hak5</a> blind me this time. :) Then they do a quick interview. I interview <a href="http://www.digome.com/">TRiP</a> about the legalities of wardriving, sniffing and leaving your access point open so you have plausible deniability of copyright infringement (most likely it won't hold water in court if you are a computer geek). I give Hak5 Daren beef jerky. <a href="http://www.offensive-security.com/">Ziplock</a> had more con badges than God. I meet up with Iridium. I talk with Nightcarnage about the audio/video setup at Phreaknic. As I predicted, the <a href="http://www.shmoo.com/~gdead/Site/Home.html">Potters</a> won the WiFi Race. I say why this was the best Phreaknic ever. Using green lasers on crack dealers. Techno in the dark, the Aiptek action HD does not do well in low light. Nicodemius shows off his Minority Report like multi-touch table. Hula hoop contest. I check back in with Jeff Cotton and his USB keyed door. I strap on my gear to leave the con. Brian and I do a wrap up of our thoughts on Phreaknic 2008.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[Lots being written about the Cloud , most of it quite dark and gloomy . In fact Im surprised, that Hoff hasnt got a preso spooled up called The Toxic Cloud or something similarly ominous for his next...]]></description>
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<p>Lots being <strong><a href="http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/saas-and-cloud-computing-change-the-cia-paradigm/">written</a></strong> about <strong><a href="http://lastinfirstout.blogspot.com/2008/10/cloud-outsourcing-moved-up-stack.html">the Cloud</a></strong>, most of it quite <a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/10/will-you-all-please-shut-up-about-securing-the-cloudno-such-thing.html#trackback">dark and gloomy</a>.  In fact I&#8217;m surprised, that Hoff hasn&#8217;t got a preso spooled up called &#8220;The Toxic Cloud&#8221; or something similarly ominous for his next speaking tour.<br />
That said, <strong><a href="http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?source=hptextfeature&amp;story_id=12471098">the Economist does a great job distilling the issue</a></strong> into a simple statement -</p>
<blockquote><p>Cloud computing is a trade-off between sovereignty and efficiency.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let me ask you -  if you had to put your money on one of those horses, considering your average profit-preoccupied business, which would it be?  I&#8217;d put my bottom dollar on the thoroughbred named &#8220;Cost Center Reduction&#8221;, to place.</p>
<p><strong>WHO ARE WE TO STAND IN THE WAY OF &#8220;PROGRESS&#8221;?</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m always fond of Jack&#8217;s rule that the role of information risk management boils down to three deceptively simple premises:</p>
<ul>
<li>Reduce Risk.</li>
<li>Reduce Loss.</li>
<li>Create Operational Efficiencies.</li>
</ul>
<p>So it would seem antithetical to the charter of the Chief Security Officer to stand in the way of progress as embodied by &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; (not to mention dangerous to long-term job security).  And I think that this presents opportunities to discuss strategies for managing risk, strategies that aren&#8217;t too theoretical and have practical application (though actual &#8220;cloud&#8221; use by enterprises may be rare at this point).</p>
<p><strong>ON RISK REDUCTION IN THE CLOUD (or, How To Learn From the Shortcomings of PCI DSS)</strong></p>
<p>The good news is, there&#8217;s already a well-established model for managing the risk around outsourcing the processing of &#8220;confidential&#8221; information.  The bad news is, that model kinda sucks it.</p>
<p>The Payment Card Industry, known as the &#8220;PCI&#8221; or &#8220;<em>meal ticket</em>&#8221; to many in the industry, faced a similar problem with the introduction of GLBA.  As I see it (and I&#8217;m not at all close to the PCI, at all, so this is all just abstract soliloquy) the PCI had one of two choices when faced with the prospect of other people managing their sensitive information:</p>
<ol>
<li>Accept the *massive* amount of GLBA risk their business creates and spend a TON of money to build out the infrastructure (both process and IT) to manage the consumer data themselves (in conjunction with the banks, of course) and never have it grace the computing systems of the retailer.  <em><strong>Or,</strong></em></li>
<li>Transfer the GLBA risk down to the retailer and have them bear the majority of the risk (and cost of reducing risk to a level that might be tolerable to the US Government).</li>
</ol>
<p><span style="color: #999999;"><em>(<a href="http://www.mckeay.net/">Martin</a>, <span style="color: #333333;">you may recall our Twittering about PCI a while back.  This is the crux of my view on the subj.</span>)</em></span></p>
<p>Now fortunately, the CSO&#8217;s of the world are going to be a little more &#8220;invested&#8221; in protecting the information they are stewards over, and unlike the PCI, will remain primarily responsible for the C, I, &amp; A of the data in the Cloud.  The cool thing is, this actually presents a great opportunity to start building a meaningful model for co-management of risk!  In fact, we can take the PCI model of contractual risk transference but modify where it goes all wrong, and start working to create something better.  And we can start by euthanizing some faulty assumptions.</p>
<p><strong>JUST HOW INFORMATIVE IS PCI DSS?</strong></p>
<p>What might be <em><strong>the.greatest.mistake</strong></em> of the standards compliance mentality is the assumption of value for the past-state measurement.  That is, I believe that the CSO needs more than some &#8220;past-state&#8221; assurance in order to understand their risk.    If you look at the concept of &#8220;PCI compliance&#8221; it really is an examination of a past state of nature that is assumed to be relevant to current and future states.   Many people (myself included) are not at all convinced that this past-state is nearly as informative as those who mandate it&#8217;s measurement believe it to be.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to condemn past-state measurements as completely non-informative,  they most certainly are useful.  It&#8217;s just that <em><strong>no self-respecting CSO sleeps well because they were deemed &#8220;PCI compliant&#8221;</strong></em> 10 months ago.  They sleep well because they have good visibility into current-state information and confidence in their strategy concerning future-state (based on that visibility and the outcomes of sound IRM models).</p>
<p><strong>MOVING PAST THE VULNERABILITY SCANNER INTO INTELLIGENCE AND WISDOM</strong></p>
<p>So realizing this new importance (to me, at least) concerning visibility and IRM models, I&#8217;m lead to the conclusion that if we are to manage risk in the Cloud, we&#8217;ll have to move beyond &#8220;PCI Compliance&#8221; or the concept that some regular &#8220;audit&#8221; of controls in place at the host is all we need to understand our ability to manage risk.  No, the CSO must have good information concerning current and probable future states.   This is that &#8220;visibility&#8221; I spoke of above.  In fact, we&#8217;ll need significant amounts of <em><strong>piercing, transparent</strong></em> visibility.  And in order to gain that visibility, our insight into Cloud Risk Management must include significant provisions for understanding a joint ability to Prevent/Detect/Respond as well as provisions for managing the risk that one of the participants won&#8217;t provide that visibility or ability via SLA&#8217;s and penalties . These SLA&#8217;s must be expressed in measurable terms (more visibility), and those metrics must have their roots in the things that help understand how we manage risk (those aforementioned IRM models).</p>
<p><strong>THE CLOUD COMPUTING SECURITY SILVER LINING (sorry couldn&#8217;t resist)</strong></p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, I do see an opportunity to create insight.  The need for visibility and IRM models would allow us to create a &#8220;guidance&#8221; if you&#8217;ll allow me to use the term.  Not a standard or a &#8220;best practice&#8221; to audit by, but simply a reference document that says &#8220;if you&#8217;re going to put information on somebody else&#8217;s systems <em>and still hold some significant responsibility for that information</em>, here&#8217;s the considerations, why they are considerations, and how you might go about collaborating on the management of risk&#8221;.</p>
<p>And I think that if we undertake this journey, there is going to be a lot of growth and risk management innovation along the way.  But keen insights into what it means to manage risk will be necessary, and secure and forthright collaboration will be of absolute importance.</p>
<p>I say that last bit because, if these pundits are right about the utility of a hosted computing model - the Cloud will happen regardless of the CSO&#8217;s ability or desire to manage it.</p>
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</p><hr></hr><p>Welcome to <strong>Blue Box: The VoIP Security Podcast</strong> #85, a 32-minute podcast  from Dan York and Jonathan Zar covering VoIP security news, comments and opinions.    </p>

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 <li>00:20 - Intro to the show, contact information and how to provide comments.  Welcome to all the new listeners - and to all those listeners who have been here for so long!</li>
<li>Programming notes:
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	<li>Three-year anniversary of Blue Box coming up on October 24th - any thoughts you'd like to share with us? (Please send them to us by October 23rd.)</li>
		
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<li>The Times: "<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article4951864.ece" id="wz0c" title="Internet phone calls are crippling fight against terrorism">Internet phone calls are crippling fight against terrorism</a>" - and <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/10/16/internet-phone-calls-terrorism-and-finding-the-balance-for-law-enforcement/" id="f.3z" title="my response on the Voice of VOIPSA blog">my response on the Voice of VOIPSA blog</a> </li>
<li>FierceVoIP: "<a href="http://www.fiercetelecom.com/story/uk-crime-fighting-concern-over-voip-calls-social-networks/2008-10-16" id="b1kd" title="UK crimefighting concern over VoIP calls, social networks">UK crimefighting concern over VoIP calls, social networks</a>"  </li>
<li>BBC: <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7671759.stm" id="ef5t" title="Data powers behind the times">Data powers behind the times</a>  <br>
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<li><a href="http://www.gtiscsecuritysummit.com/pdf/CyberThreatsReport2009.pdf" id="mo0b" title="GA Tech Survey (PDF)">GA Tech Survey (PDF) </a>(link <a href="http://www.techlinks.net/blogs/events/archive/2008/09/25/gtisc-security-summit.aspx" id="a5cx" title="about the GA conference">about the GA conference</a> )</li>
<li>Dark Reading: <a href="http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=166029&amp;WT.svl=news2_1" id="ipct" title="Cellphone Botnets, Blackmailing VOIP &amp; a Healthy Cybercrime Economy">Cellphone Botnets, Blackmailing VOIP &amp; a Healthy Cybercrime Economy</a></li>
<li>bMighty.com: <a href="http://www.bmighty.com/blog/main/archives/2008/10/georgia_techs_s.html" id="dkj." title="Georgia Tech Security Report Scarier Than Its Football Team">Georgia Tech Security Report Scarier Than Its Football Team</a> </li>
<li>cNet: <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-10067994-83.html" id="f-to" title="Botnets on cell phones in 2009?">Botnets on cell phones in 2009?</a> </li>
<li>telecoms.com: <a href="http://www.telecoms.com/itmgcontent/tcoms/news/articles/20017581221.html" id="r76:" title="Smartphone is a hotbed of security issues">Smartphone is a hotbed of security issues</a> <br>
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<li>VNUnet: <a href="http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2228330/security-industry-falling" id="znq2" title="Security industry falling behind hackers">Security industry falling behind hackers</a> <br>
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<li>AP: <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PHONE_JAMMING?SITE=WSAW&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" id="pgn:" title="Phone Jamming in NH">Phone Jamming in NH</a> <br>
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<li>GigaOm: <a href="http://gigaom.com/2008/10/17/eef-challenges-telco-immunity-in-court/" id="d_dk" title="EEF Challenges Telco Immunity in Court">EEF Challenges Telco Immunity in Court</a>  <br>
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<li>Information Week: <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/infrastructure/ethernet/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210605169&amp;cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All" id="r.gq" title="New Protocols Secure Layer 2">New Protocols Secure Layer 2</a></li>
<li>Voice of VOIPSA: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/10/08/asking-the-cisco-systems-ipics-and-jps-raytheon-acu-2000-experts-questions-36-40/" id="wpk1" title="Asking The Cisco Systems IPICS and JPS Raytheon ACU-2000 Experts: Questions 36-40">Asking The Cisco Systems IPICS and JPS Raytheon ACU-2000 Experts: Questions 36-40</a></li>
<li>Other <a href="http://www.voipsa.org/blog/" id="ogdq" title="Voice of VOIPSA">Voice of VOIPSA</a> articles</li>
<li><a href="http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-snom-technology-ag-snom-820-combines-mature-voip-/2008/10/15/3705379.htm" id="kija" style="color: #551a8b;" title="news release">snom technology AG: snom 820 combines mature VoIP technology with exclusive design</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/idc-finds-increasing-hype-around/story.aspx?guid=%7B095A1E35-5F22-42D7-A223-53A3E1300419%7D&amp;dist=hppr" id="gddr" title="IDC Finds Increasing Hype Around Unified Communications Is Affecting How Customers Select Telephony Systems and Services">IDC Finds Increasing Hype Around Unified Communications Is Affecting How Customers Select Telephony Systems and Services </a>(interesting movement in the top vendors used  - Nortel out and IBM in)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.tmcnet.com/channels/voice-peering/articles/43001-peerless-voip-peering.htm" id="m:8s" title="Peerless VoIP Peering">Peerless VoIP Peering</a> </li>
<li>Comment (IM) from Christian Wieser
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<li>Review of the last week's traffic on the <a href="http://www.voipsa.org/VOIPSEC/">VOIPSEC </a>public mailing list<br>
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<li>Wrap-up of the show<br>
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<li>32:10 - End of show  </li>
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