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      <title><![CDATA[The Impact of Dans DNS Debacle on Internet Risk]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Blogger: Pete Lindstrom
On July 8th, Dan Kaminsky of IOActive announced a major DNS vulnerability in conjunction with a number of major DNS vendors. The announcement was off the charts in fanfare and...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Blogger: Pete Lindstrom</p>

<p>On July 8th, Dan Kaminsky of IOActive announced a major DNS “vulnerability” in conjunction with a number of major DNS vendors. The announcement was off the charts in fanfare and attention, but what was the real impact on risk?</p>

<p>First, it is worth noting that this “bug” is more properly classified as a new attack technique invented by Dan. It combines two vulnerabilities that have been well-known for some time – the ability to guess non-random transaction IDs and the use of Additional RRs to insert new entries into the DNS cache. A fix against either of these vulnerabilities also negates the attack itself.</p>

<p>The fundamental question that determines the risk impact revolves around whether it is reasonable to expect fewer or more incidents that use this technique when comparing the period prior to disclosure -- or, more properly, before the date of Dan’s invention of the technique (this also assumes prior art) – with the period after invention/disclosure and into the future. If the disclosure reduces the number of those incidents, then risk is reduced; if the disclosure increases the number of those incidents, then risk is increased.</p>

<p>With that litmus test as our guideline, it is useful to break down the functional elements of risk and look at the impact on threats, vulnerabilities, and consequences (we will cover consequences, then vulnerabilities, and finally threat).</p>

<p><strong>Consequences</strong><br />Though the consequences are the same before and after disclosure, it is worth discussing the impact here, given that the implication was that the “entire web” could be taken down. The nature of the attack requires the following:</p>

<ol><li>An attacker must convince/trick a user into making a DNS request for a domain that doesn’t already exist in their DNS server’s cache. The expectation here is that s/he can be easily tricked into doing this.</li>

<li>Then, the attacker must simultaneously attack the DNS server by guessing the transaction ID. According to Kaminsky, the request/attack phase can be done reliably in about 10 seconds.</li>

<li>The attack is DNS server-specific. Only users on the same DNS server are affected.</li>

<li>Propagation: once the cache is poisoned, anyone requesting that domain will be routed to a malicious server.</li></ol>

<p>Without combining this attack with other attack techniques, there can be three results:</p>

<ol><li>Spoofing of a single website for multiple, perhaps many, users using the same DNS server. Presumably, this would be followed by more traditional phishing and malware attacks.</li>

<li>Denial-of-service by rerouting traffic from a legitimate site thereby taking potential customers or “eyeballs” away.</li>

<li>Denial-of-service be rerouting traffic from a legitimate high volume site to a legitimate low-volume site thereby overloading the servers on the low-volume site.</li></ol>

<p>Because of the point-to-point (user-to-website) nature of the attack, to do something that constitutes “taking over the entire web” is infeasible by a longshot.</p>

<p>The bottom line analysis for the effect on risk due to a change in consequences from pre-invention to post-invention: no change, and therefore no impact.</p>

<p><strong>Vulnerabilities</strong><br />These vulnerabilities have existed for years, and there have been workarounds for years. Along with this announcement, new patches were introduced in all major DNS server solutions. It is reasonable to assume that many DNS server implementations have been patched, though public accounts have suggested that number is in the 66%-75% range.</p>

<p>Bottom line analysis: the vulnerability level has been reduced, probably significantly, and the affect is positive for risk reduction. If 100% of DNS servers were patched, then overall risk would be reduced for this attack (assuming that there were actual attacks using this technique in the past.)</p>

<p><strong>Threats</strong><br />The real question regarding risk impact comes in the arena of the less-controllable manipulation of threat. The general threat equation revolves around an attacker’s willingness to attack, based on his/her own cost/benefit analysis that compares the cost to attack to the expected benefits, tempered by the potential for being caught and penalized.</p>

<p>Cost to attack – prior to disclosing the invention, there were likely few, if any attackers with “prior art” that mirrored this technique. It is anybody’s guess how many potential attackers might have figured it out eventually, but they would have had to come from the pool of folks with enough expertise to do so – I am going to guess 500,000 people.</p>

<p>After the disclosure, the hints provided in the press release, the podcast, the sorted stories, and the blog entries made it much easier to figure out. Let’s guess that 5 million people could execute the attack. With automated tools, that number goes up to 50 million.</p>

<p>These numbers are estimates that illustrate the nature of the exercise. You are welcome to fill in your own estimates and come to your own conclusions.</p>

<p>Bottom line analysis: a significant increase in threat and corresponding risk.</p>

<p><strong>Net Effect</strong><br />The risk manager's challenge is to weigh the decrease in vulnerable systems compared with the corresponding increase in threat, within the context of number of incidents and anticipated future incidents. Given the sheer size differential, it is difficult to conceive of a situation where risk is not increased. </p>

<p>Sometimes it &quot;feels&quot; like someone is taking action for the greater good, when that action actually creates a negative impact for all. For example, it is common for people to believe that raising prices of scarce resources during&nbsp; times of trouble (e.g. gasoline in the hurricane Katrina aftermath) is unconscionable even though a majority of economists recognize that raising prices actually provides for the greater public good. Vulnerability discovery and disclosure, and attack inventions, might feel like the right thing to do, but the net result is almost always a negative impact.</p></div>
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      <title><![CDATA[The Impact of Dan???s DNS Debacle on Internet Risk]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/17bf6b308eeadf67b8e5c872046c5738</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Blogger: Pete Lindstrom
On July 8th, Dan Kaminsky of IOActive announced a major DNS ???vulnerability??? in conjunction with a number of major DNS vendors. The announcement was off the charts in...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Blogger: Pete Lindstrom</p>

<p>On July 8th, Dan Kaminsky of IOActive announced a major DNS ???vulnerability??? in conjunction with a number of major DNS vendors. The announcement was off the charts in fanfare and attention, but what was the real impact on risk?</p>

<p>First, it is worth noting that this ???bug??? is more properly classified as a new attack technique invented by Dan. It combines two vulnerabilities that have been well-known for some time ??? the ability to guess non-random transaction IDs and the use of Additional RRs to insert new entries into the DNS cache. A fix against either of these vulnerabilities also negates the attack itself.</p>

<p>The fundamental question that determines the risk impact revolves around whether it is reasonable to expect fewer or more incidents that use this technique when comparing the period prior to disclosure -- or, more properly, before the date of Dan???s invention of the technique (this also assumes prior art) ??? with the period after invention/disclosure and into the future. If the disclosure reduces the number of those incidents, then risk is reduced; if the disclosure increases the number of those incidents, then risk is increased.</p>

<p>With that litmus test as our guideline, it is useful to break down the functional elements of risk and look at the impact on threats, vulnerabilities, and consequences (we will cover consequences, then vulnerabilities, and finally threat).</p>

<p><strong>Consequences</strong><br />Though the consequences are the same before and after disclosure, it is worth discussing the impact here, given that the implication was that the ???entire web??? could be taken down. The nature of the attack requires the following:</p>

<ol><li>An attacker must convince/trick a user into making a DNS request for a domain that doesn???t already exist in their DNS server???s cache. The expectation here is that s/he can be easily tricked into doing this.</li>

<li>Then, the attacker must simultaneously attack the DNS server by guessing the transaction ID. According to Kaminsky, the request/attack phase can be done reliably in about 10 seconds.</li>

<li>The attack is DNS server-specific. Only users on the same DNS server are affected.</li>

<li>Propagation: once the cache is poisoned, anyone requesting that domain will be routed to a malicious server.</li></ol>

<p>Without combining this attack with other attack techniques, there can be three results:</p>

<ol><li>Spoofing of a single website for multiple, perhaps many, users using the same DNS server. Presumably, this would be followed by more traditional phishing and malware attacks.</li>

<li>Denial-of-service by rerouting traffic from a legitimate site thereby taking potential customers or ???eyeballs??? away.</li>

<li>Denial-of-service be rerouting traffic from a legitimate high volume site to a legitimate low-volume site thereby overloading the servers on the low-volume site.</li></ol>

<p>Because of the point-to-point (user-to-website) nature of the attack, to do something that constitutes ???taking over the entire web??? is infeasible by a longshot.</p>

<p>The bottom line analysis for the effect on risk due to a change in consequences from pre-invention to post-invention: no change, and therefore no impact.</p>

<p><strong>Vulnerabilities</strong><br />These vulnerabilities have existed for years, and there have been workarounds for years. Along with this announcement, new patches were introduced in all major DNS server solutions. It is reasonable to assume that many DNS server implementations have been patched, though public accounts have suggested that number is in the 66%-75% range.</p>

<p>Bottom line analysis: the vulnerability level has been reduced, probably significantly, and the affect is positive for risk reduction. If 100% of DNS servers were patched, then overall risk would be reduced for this attack (assuming that there were actual attacks using this technique in the past.)</p>

<p><strong>Threats</strong><br />The real question regarding risk impact comes in the arena of the less-controllable manipulation of threat. The general threat equation revolves around an attacker???s willingness to attack, based on his/her own cost/benefit analysis that compares the cost to attack to the expected benefits, tempered by the potential for being caught and penalized.</p>

<p>Cost to attack ??? prior to disclosing the invention, there were likely few, if any attackers with ???prior art??? that mirrored this technique. It is anybody???s guess how many potential attackers might have figured it out eventually, but they would have had to come from the pool of folks with enough expertise to do so ??? I am going to guess 500,000 people.</p>

<p>After the disclosure, the hints provided in the press release, the podcast, the sorted stories, and the blog entries made it much easier to figure out. Let???s guess that 5 million people could execute the attack. With automated tools, that number goes up to 50 million.</p>

<p>These numbers are estimates that illustrate the nature of the exercise. You are welcome to fill in your own estimates and come to your own conclusions.</p>

<p>Bottom line analysis: a significant increase in threat and corresponding risk.</p>

<p><strong>Net Effect</strong><br />The risk manager's challenge is to weigh the decrease in vulnerable systems compared with the corresponding increase in threat, within the context of number of incidents and anticipated future incidents. Given the sheer size differential, it is difficult to conceive of a situation where risk is not increased. </p>

<p>Sometimes it &quot;feels&quot; like someone is taking action for the greater good, when that action actually creates a negative impact for all. For example, it is common for people to believe that raising prices of scarce resources during&nbsp; times of trouble (e.g. gasoline in the hurricane Katrina aftermath) is unconscionable even though a majority of economists recognize that raising prices actually provides for the greater public good. Vulnerability discovery and disclosure, and attack inventions, might feel like the right thing to do, but the net result is almost always a negative impact.</p></div>
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      <title><![CDATA[Im held accountable, why cant they be?]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[I know, Its not about computer security. But Im a American businessperson and I feel Im not being properly represented by the elected officials I voted for. They seem to have their own interests in...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div > I know, Its not about computer security. But Im a American businessperson and I feel Im not being properly represented by the elected officials I voted for.<br/>They seem to have their own interests in mind.<br/>While the elimination of the middle class continues. </div>
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      <title><![CDATA[Beware! $4 + a gallon is bringing out the thieves in our communities.]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[We recently alerted our readers to watch out for copper piping, wiring and even art pieces that were being stolen by thieves looking to cash in on the rising price of copper. It was only a matter of...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[We recently alerted our readers to watch out for copper piping, wiring and even art pieces that were being stolen by thieves looking to cash in on the rising price of copper.  It was only a matter of time before the same thing happened to the fuel tanks on our vehicles.  <br /><br />Neil Cavuto ran a story on Fox's "Cavuto World" today about thieves who are even going so far as to drill into tanks in an effort to steal a vehicle's fuel. Gasoline, Dielsel and even greasy cooking oil is being stolen.  That's right - cooking oil. <br /></span><br />I first heard that old cooking oil could be used to run a car on from my brother in Northern Ireland about four or five years ago.  There was very little start-up costs involved and being the owner of a restaurant, he had a ready supply of used oil.  He told me at that at that time, people were converting their vehicles to run on the oil and were going around gathering up used oil from restaurants.  The owners of these establishments were thrilled since they used to pay to have the old oil removed previously.<br /><br />Apparently this recycling of cooking oil has become so popular, that restaurants are now selling it - last I heard for about $1.50 a gallon.  Thieves have discovered its worth and are now draining the oil tanks located at the rear of restaurants.  The report went on to say that SUVs are especially being targeted as their size gives the thieves plenty of good cover.  The fact that their tanks are larger and contain more fuel is an added advantage for them.<br /><br />What can you do?  For starters, if your fuel cap is not lockable, replace it with one that can be locked.  If at all possible, keep your vehicle in a locked garage.  If that is not an option, park it in a well lit area. Unfortunately, the higher the prices go at the pump, the more prevalent that fuel thefts will become.<div class="blogger-post-footer">Visit Sexton Executive Security at www.sextonsecurity.com</div>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[An old/new kind of cybercrime/cybercriminal]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[I was reading Ellen Messmer's report today about the security incident over at Lending Tree. Yeah, I know another information breach by insiders case, BFD. But I think there is something different...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I was reading <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/042208-lendingtree-breach.html?nlhtsec=ts_042308&amp;nladname=042308securityal" target="_blank">Ellen Messmer's report</a> today about the security incident over at Lending Tree. Yeah, I know another information breach by insiders case, BFD.&nbsp; But I think there is something different about this one.&nbsp; From what I am reading this is more a case of corporate espionage than the usual hackers for fraud and financial gain type of deal.&nbsp; For a long time now we have been hearing from people like <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/031408-insider-pose-threat-for.html" target="_blank">Bruce Schneier in this article</a> talk about the front in security moving from dealing with script kiddies working for kicks to organized cybercriminal gangs that are in it for financial gain. Mostly the gain is about identity theft and gaining access to funds fraudulently. </p>

<p>In the Lending Tree case though there was not evidently a motive to use the ill begotten information for identity theft or fraud.&nbsp; Rather they represented Glengary, Glen Ross leads.&nbsp; That is the names, contacts and qualifications of people looking for mortgages.&nbsp; A mortgage company would consider these leads more valuable than gold, more valuable even that gasoline!&nbsp; So to my mind this is more a case of corporate espionage where a company that is competitive to Lending Tree infiltrated their networks through people, rather than technology to gain access to their corporate crown jewels.&nbsp; </p>

<p>This sort of stealing your competitors information has been going on for decades, well before computers and cybercrime were around.&nbsp; However, this is a great example of some things not going out of style.&nbsp; Obtaining your competitors information is a great motive, computers are just the container where the information is kept.&nbsp; Sort of like cracking a safe.&nbsp; It is always easier getting into a safe if you are given the combination, than if you have to crack it yourself.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Yet another front in the cybercrime war that security folks need to be on guard for!</p></div>
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      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/6dd15a44de078c80d2bddebe2791cfd4</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I was reading Ellen Messmer's report today about the security incident over at Lending Tree. Yeah, I know another information breach by insiders case, BFD. But I think there is something different...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I was reading <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/042208-lendingtree-breach.html?nlhtsec=ts_042308&amp;nladname=042308securityal" target="_blank">Ellen Messmer's report</a> today about the security incident over at Lending Tree. Yeah, I know another information breach by insiders case, BFD.&nbsp; But I think there is something different about this one.&nbsp; From what I am reading this is more a case of corporate espionage than the usual hackers for fraud and financial gain type of deal.&nbsp; For a long time now we have been hearing from people like <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/031408-insider-pose-threat-for.html" target="_blank">Bruce Schneier in this article</a> talk about the front in security moving from dealing with script kiddies working for kicks to organized cybercriminal gangs that are in it for financial gain. Mostly the gain is about identity theft and gaining access to funds fraudulently. </p>

<p>In the Lending Tree case though there was not evidently a motive to use the ill begotten information for identity theft or fraud.&nbsp; Rather they represented Glengary, Glen Ross leads.&nbsp; That is the names, contacts and qualifications of people looking for mortgages.&nbsp; A mortgage company would consider these leads more valuable than gold, more valuable even that gasoline!&nbsp; So to my mind this is more a case of corporate espionage where a company that is competitive to Lending Tree infiltrated their networks through people, rather than technology to gain access to their corporate crown jewels.&nbsp; </p>

<p>This sort of stealing your competitors information has been going on for decades, well before computers and cybercrime were around.&nbsp; However, this is a great example of some things not going out of style.&nbsp; Obtaining your competitors information is a great motive, computers are just the container where the information is kept.&nbsp; Sort of like cracking a safe.&nbsp; It is always easier getting into a safe if you are given the combination, than if you have to crack it yourself.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Yet another front in the cybercrime war that security folks need to be on guard for!</p></div>

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      <description><![CDATA[I was out in Colorado today. I filled up with gas before returning the car and paid $3.39 for regular gas. When I landed in West Palm Beach I had to put gas in my car on the way home and paid $3.49...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=512,height=501,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/26/arm_leg.jpg"><img title="Arm_leg" height="215" alt="Arm_leg" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/02/26/arm_leg.jpg" width="220" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" /></a> I was out in Colorado today. I filled up with gas before returning the car and paid $3.39 for regular gas.&nbsp; When I landed in West Palm Beach I had to put gas in my car on the way home and paid $3.49 for regular.&nbsp; When does this stop?&nbsp; Is it really going to 4 bucks a gallon soon as they say?&nbsp; Why stop there, 5, 6 7 bucks a gallon?&nbsp; What is it going to take for us to finally say enough and do something in this country about getting off the black heroin?<br /><br />So busy talking about the war, mortgages and the stock market, why aren't any of the major candidates putting out detailed plans on how we are going to move off of oil and gasoline hamster wheel that is a monkey on the back of each and every one of us.&nbsp; I am fed up and not going to take it anymore!</p></div>
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      <title><![CDATA[Up, up, up - when does it stop?]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/30a1c34cac840d34c0aff61e204d1854</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I was out in Colorado today. I filled up with gas before returning the car and paid $3.39 for regular gas. When I landed in West Palm Beach I had to put gas in my car on the way home and paid $3.49...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=512,height=501,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/26/arm_leg.jpg"><img title="Arm_leg" height="215" alt="Arm_leg" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/02/26/arm_leg.jpg" width="220" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" /></a> I was out in Colorado today. I filled up with gas before returning the car and paid $3.39 for regular gas.&nbsp; When I landed in West Palm Beach I had to put gas in my car on the way home and paid $3.49 for regular.&nbsp; When does this stop?&nbsp; Is it really going to 4 bucks a gallon soon as they say?&nbsp; Why stop there, 5, 6 7 bucks a gallon?&nbsp; What is it going to take for us to finally say enough and do something in this country about getting off the black heroin?<br /><br />So busy talking about the war, mortgages and the stock market, why aren't any of the major candidates putting out detailed plans on how we are going to move off of oil and gasoline hamster wheel that is a monkey on the back of each and every one of us.&nbsp; I am fed up and not going to take it anymore!</p></div>

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      <description><![CDATA[After reading Bruce Schneier s interview with TSA Administrator Kip Hawley I started thinking of all the explosives used in recent terrorist plots and how silly they were. As a kid, I loved going into...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>After reading </FONT><A href="http://www.schneier.com/interview-hawley.html"><FONT face=Calibri>Bruce Schneier &#8216;s interview with TSA Administrator Kip Hawley</FONT></A><FONT face=Calibri> I started thinking of all the explosives used in recent terrorist plots and how silly they were.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>As a kid, I loved going into the woods and playing with all sorts of dangerous stuff which of course included fireworks, gas cans, hair spray, propane tanks, etc.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>What I learned was that it&#8217;s a lot harder to get things to explode than you think.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>If any of these terrorist had a background in chemistry or even played with anything dangerous as a kid, they would have realized how silly they were as well.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>I plan on posting about explosives and how they were used in the terrorist attacks tomorrow, but in the mean time, I thought it would be fun to share some of the lessons I learned as a child through trial and error.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>First off, a word of warning:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><FONT face=Calibri>Do not try any of this at home.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The experiments were done by an idiot.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>None of it is legal.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I&#8217;m lucky to have my fingers and some of the hair I lost never grew back.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Scar tissue isn&#8217;t as strong as regular tissue.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>I remember one of the first little experiments I did as a kid involved the lawn mower&#8217;s gas can.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Several attempts to use gasoline to replicate those awe inspiring car explosions from action movies failed time and time again.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The only result I could get was a simple fire that often proved difficult to put out.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>It&#8217;s kind of funny the safety controls I employed at age 12.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>My love of danger was superseded by my desire to live and stay out of trouble.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>For example, one of the first things I learned was remote detonation systems.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The first one I employed was a catapult, built from popsicle sticks, a metal spoon, and rubber bands which could launch a cotton ball soaked in alcohol 20 ft.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The catapult itself could even be operated remotely by using a piece of dental floss to release the firing pin.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The way I figured it, I could open a flame a safe distance from my explosive, run to my makeshift bomb shelter (a foxhole), launch the catapult, and wait for the explosion.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>My ignition systems advanced over the years to electrical (steel wool, 9V batteries, and phone cord), 12 gauge shotgun shells minus the lead shot, and tracer rounds (regular bullets do nothing, you need an incendiary round).<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>My experiments always started with small trial runs. The simple process I employed had numerous benefits, such as teaching me how to construct proper firebreaks, that gravel roads don&#8217;t burn but they do throw significant amounts of shrapnel, and why the military loves foxholes.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>The first time I got an explosion occurred by accident.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I was very disappointed after another failed experiment.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>As I sat there next to an empty gas can waiting for a fire to go out, I was playing with strike anywhere matches on the empty gas can when to my surprise it exploded and launched itself to the other side of the field.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I lost all the hair on my knuckles and had now had a mystery to solve.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>I can&#8217;t imagine what my dad must have thought when I started asking all these questions, but he explained to me how a combustion engine works.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Either a carburetor or fuel injection systems mix gasoline with oxygen to form a gas which is ignited by a spark plug at specific intervals to propel a car.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>He also explained that if a car&#8217;s gas tank could explode then it would not be safe to drive.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Without being properly mixed with an oxidant, gasoline does not detonate, but rather it deflagrates, or burns.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>Experimenting with a car battery charger, a glass beaker, some balloons, and water was also a source of immense fun.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>At the time, I hadn&#8217;t taken any chemistry classes and thought I was collecting pure hydrogen in my balloons.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In my mind, I was making mini-Hindenburg&#8217;s.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I would take them out to my fort and blow them up.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Those made some nice explosions.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It wasn&#8217;t until a later experiment that I learned I was collecting oxygen in addition to hydrogen through electrolysis.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>That later experiment occurred when I discovered dad&#8217;s acetylene tanks (he&#8217;s a jeweler and has a torch for soldering). At first I was disappointed.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Balloons filled with only acetylene barely did anything.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>But then I found that if I mixed in some pure oxygen from the other tank in a 2:1 ratio of oxygen to acetylene, you could produce an explosion with a shock wave that could be felt from 50 ft. away.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It literally sounded like a stick of TNT.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>Over the years I grew more and more brave.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I don&#8217;t know what my poor parents must have thought.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>At age 15, I printed off an anarchist cookbook and unintentionally left before it was done printing.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The printer was simply out of paper, and later that night when dad put some more in, out popped a page on making napalm from gasoline and styrofoam.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>They have also never asked me how the metal window screen in my room melted in one corner.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I don&#8217;t know how I would have told them it was due to a freak accident when I was making my first accurate time delay fuse using slow burning gunpowder, cardboard strips that were coiled and soaked in wax, and a tuna can.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 10pt"><FONT face=Calibri>Looking back at some of the stuff I did from age 10 to 16, I would have made an excellent engineer, scientist, or lawyer.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>I built all kinds of things, always figured out how they worked, and argued my way out things that get people sent to Guantanamo :)</FONT></P>
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