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    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 07:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[XSS Worm At Justin.tv Affects 2525 Profiles]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/627414fccaaab4b0161436148a39deb5</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[A XSS worm was crawling across Justin.tv, the popular lifecasting platform at the end of June. The group that found the XSS vulnerability abused it as a proof of concept, until Justin.tv fixed the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[A XSS worm was crawling across Justin.tv, the popular lifecasting platform at the end of June. The group that found the XSS vulnerability abused it as a &#8220;proof of concept&#8221;, until Justin.tv fixed the flaw rending the worm’s activities obsolete. Due to insufficient input sanitization of the location field on users&#8217; profiles, the group could [...]]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://cyberinsecure.com/xss-worm-at-justintv-affects-2525-profiles/">XSS Worm At Justin.tv Affects 2525 Profiles</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Wee-Fi: Germans Can Leave Networks Open; Belkin Announces Wireless High-Def]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/ab835f6a5c216960e3543aadfe5ce5d5</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[A German appeals court says an open Wi-Fi network isn't equivalent to the owner's responsibility for actions over that network: This decisions overturns a lower court's ruling in a peer-to-peer file...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://wifinetnews.com/images/weefi.jpg" align="right" border="0" hspace="5" /><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080710-open-wifi-network-viable-defense-against-infringement-chargeat-least-in-germany.html"><strong>A German appeals court says an open Wi-Fi network isn't equivalent to the owner's responsibility for actions over that network:</strong></a> This decisions overturns a lower court's ruling in a peer-to-peer file sharing copyright infringement case that the owner of a Wi-Fi network was de facto culpable for any activity that could be tracked back to the network's IP address. The appeals court said without specific evidence that the person charged had committed the infringement there's no case--and no requirement to lock down the network to avoid such lawsuits. If the decision had been upheld, it would have likely led to more broadside charges worldwide, as well as a vast reduction in open networks.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080710005104&newsLang=en"><strong>Belkin gives us plenty of time to get ready for streaming high def:</strong></a> FlyWire uses an adapted form of Wi-Fi in the 5 GHz band to stream HD without having the HD set in close proximity. They're not shipping until October, which could give you some time to get used to the price tag. A $1,000 model is designed to cover a home, and has various infrared and wireless options to control current A/V gear, some of which might be hidden in cabinets away from view. A cheaper $700 option covers just one room, Belkin says, and excludes the IR help. The transmitter has 3 HDMI jacks, including DVI support with audio inputs, along with two component and one composite video and audio input panels. The receiver has a single HDMI output. All HD resolutions are supported. These devices are aimed at people who buy large HDTVs and want to wall mount them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/wi-fi">wi-fi</category>
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      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/appeals court">appeals court</category>
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      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/belkin">belkin</category>
      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/audio input panels">audio input panels</category>
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      <source url="http://wifinetnews.com/archives/008392.html">Wee-Fi: Germans Can Leave Networks Open; Belkin Announces Wireless High-Def</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Lessons learned from the massive SQL injection attacks against legacy Microsoft ASP apps ]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/ae1a12c2fbda777fdffc9aeff980c0bc</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I am sure many of you are aware of the recent massive-scale SQL injection attacks targeting Microsoft ASP applications running on IIS. The latest report has the number of attacked sites at 500,000....]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://www.forrester.com/role_based/images/author/imported/forresterDotCom/Analyst_Photos/Silhouette/Color/Chenxi-Wang.gif" alt="Chenxi Wang" title="Chenxi Wang" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left;" /></p>

<p>I am sure many of you are aware of the recent massive-scale SQL injection attacks targeting Microsoft ASP applications running on IIS. The latest report has the number of attacked sites at 500,000. The press makes it sound like there is a new vulnerability in IIS or ASP. This cannot be further from the truth. The reality is the attacks are targeting Web applications where user input validation is not done (this is one of the fundamental security programming techniques). When a Web application does not validate its form input, it is opening itself up to code injection attacks including SQL injection. Today, the security industry is doing a decent job of communicating the importance of input validation. But you'll still find many legacy Web applications that have these flaws. And this is exactly what happened here: the attackers (well, they are organized) are using Google to find old ASP pages that take user input, and are systematically going after these pages to perform SQL injection attacks. </p>

<p>If you have legacy Web applications, the best thing you can do is use HP's Scrawlr, a lightweight Web crawling and SQL injection detection tool to detect your vulnerabilities. You can download Scrawlr here: </p>

<p><span style="color: #003366;"><a href="https://download.spidynamics.com/products/scrawlr/">https://download.spidynamics.com/products/scrawlr/</a></span>. </p>

<p>We'll be back with another edition of how important application security is to business today. Stay tuned.</p>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/microsoft asp applications">microsoft asp applications</category>
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      <source url="http://blogs.forrester.com/srm/2008/07/lessons-learned.html">Lessons learned from the massive SQL injection attacks against legacy Microsoft ASP apps </source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Changhai Ke of ILOG: The More Part of CEP over ESP is Far from Mature]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/4ccda505bb59db762d5daa487d5ea59e</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[This post was originally a comment On CEP Maturity and the Gartner Hype Cycle by Changhai Ke of ILOG . Changhai Kes comment was so well written, I have repostedit as a blog entry
The More Part of CEP...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was originally a <a href="http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/06/01/on-cep-maturity-and-the-gartner-hype-cycle/#comment-498" target="_blank">comment</a> <a href="http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/06/01/on-cep-maturity-and-the-gartner-hype-cycle" target="_blank">On CEP Maturity and the Gartner Hype Cycle</a> by <a href="http://forums.ilog.com/brms/index.php?action=profile;u=16;sa=showPosts" target="_blank">Changhai Ke of ILOG</a>.  Changhai Ke&#8217;s comment was so well written, I have reposted it as a blog entry.</p>
<p>The “More” Part of CEP over ESP is Far from Mature </p>
<p>By Changhai Ke, <a href="http://www.ilog.com" target="_blank">ILOG</a></p>
<p>An EDA and CEP must be understood as 2 different areas. EDA is an architecture pattern for enterprise applications. The components are loosely coupled by the use of events. In its strict sense, this is more an architecture pattern than an algorithm.</p>
<p>CEP, on the other hand, targets at the event processing and pattern recognition level. For me, it’s the research for the right algorithm to use to recognize the situations. Pattern recognition, event correlation are all good characterizations for CEP. Back 15 years ago, the alarm correlation in the telecom area was done using production rules (it is still the case), and this perfectly falls into the CEP area.</p>
<p>In fact, EDA comes after CEP, but the CEP at that period was not explicitly called CEP. The nature of their respective study is not the same, one is at the architecture and middleware level, the other is at the algorithm side. As both are concerned by events, it seems that people more or less implicitly include CEP in EDA, mix the two and introduce confusion. Why not. But it’s important to understand that CEP (on its algorithm side) could mature on its way without being worried about the event transportation layer.</p>
<p>As a system, CEP needs input events for processing. If EDA is considered as the only way to bring and transport events to the CEP systems, then of course CEP won’t become successful without the prior success of EDA. But in my understanding, CEP targets some real-time or close to real-time applications, and the event transport layer in those applications are the most often ad-hoc and over-optimized. I fear that EDA has the same kind of performance goal.</p>
<p>Another distinction needs to be made. CEP is more general than ESP (event stream processing), characterized by an EPL for data aggregation with notifications. Even on the market most of the CEP vendors provide EPL languages, CEP has the vocation to cover more than that. The “more” part is not well defined, at least it should include the event correlation, and correlation is not just data aggregation.</p>
<p>The ESP part of CEP could be considered as quite mature. There are so many EPL languages, and tuning has been made on the runtime side. It seems also that some applications based on ESP have proved to work. But the “more” part of CEP over ESP is far from mature. It is often described that CEP could use several technologies, such as statistical models, Bayesian network, time series, rules, etc. I agree that there are a few systems using rules. But where are the others?</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p><a href="http://forums.ilog.com/brms/index.php?action=profile;u=16" target="_blank">Changhai Ke</a></p>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/cep">cep</category>
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      <source url="http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/07/06/changhai-ke-of-ilog-the-%e2%80%9cmore%e2%80%9d-part-of-cep-over-esp-is-far-from-mature/">Changhai Ke of ILOG: The More Part of CEP over ESP is Far from Mature</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Links for 2008-06-26 [del.icio.us]]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/dd55671703e08b2bd6230c4559700373</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Can You Hear Me Now? | Nemertes Research Our brains (with functional ears) have the ability to dynamically adjust the gain control and adjust frequency sensitivity in real-time based on input from our...]]></description>
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<li><a href="http://www.nemertes.com/analyst_blogs/can_you_hear_me_now">Can You Hear Me Now? | Nemertes Research</a><br/>
Our brains (with functional ears) have the ability to dynamically adjust the gain control and adjust frequency sensitivity in real-time based on input from our other senses and our past experiences. The same capability is needed in SIEM/log management whe</li>
<li><a href="http://srmsblog.burtongroup.com/2008/06/common-event-st.html">Security and Risk Management Strategies Blog: Common Event Standard SIG Held At Catalyst</a></li>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AntonChuvakinPersonalBlog/~3/321058736/anton18">Links for 2008-06-26 [del.icio.us]</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[ShoutPro Vulnerability Currently Causing Issues For Websites]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/77978134a7222749f8b7a165f0a09e27</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I've seen a few sites mention that they had to remove a Shoutbox recently due to people exploiting it in some way, shape or fashion. Curiously, while wading through the recent batch of 419 scams I...]]></description>
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        I've seen a few sites mention that they had to <a href="http://blog.spywareguide.com/images/doa11.html">remove a Shoutbox</a> recently due to people exploiting it in some way, shape or fashion. Curiously, while wading through the recent batch of 419 scams I happened to come across an IRS Phish which seemed strangely out of place.<br /><br />Here's what the Phish mail looked like (promising a tax refund of $600+, naturally):<br /><br /><div align="center"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://blog.spywareguide.com/images/irsphish.html" onclick="window.open('http://blog.spywareguide.com/images/irsphish.html','popup','width=461,height=435,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img src="http://blog.spywareguide.com/images/irsphish-thumb-361x340.jpg" alt="irsphish.jpg" class="mt-image-none" style="" height="340" width="361" /></a></span></div><br /> <div><br /><div align="center">Click to Enlarge<br /></div><br />Clicking the link doesn't take you to a fake IRS page - instead, you see this:<br /><br /><br /><div align="center"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="irsphish2.jpg" src="http://blog.spywareguide.com/images/irsphish2.jpg" class="mt-image-none" style="" height="229" width="301" /></span></div><br /></div><div><br />I decided to contact the site owner and see if he had any further information on what happened. A portion of his response said:<br /><br /><i>I was using ShoutPro 1.5.2. It looks like the attacker was able to exploit the shoutbox in some way because he created (or uploaded?) a number of files to the server. The most dangerous of these was a script called nsTView, which gave the attacker full access to all my files as well as the ability to run unix commands on my server. I got lucky.. since he was running the script from a subdomain, he was only able to actually access files within [URL REMOVED], though he was able to view file lists of files from any directory on my site, and maybe view them using shell commands.</i><br /><br />...ouch. You can see an example of NSTView at work <a href="http://www.mnin.org/write/2006_uploadscripts.html">here</a>, complete with screenshots (scroll down). As for the type of Shoutbox used, the version number given is significant.<br /><br />The reason? Well, ShoutPro 1.5.2 has a <a href="http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/3758">known issue</a> that was discovered back in 2007 which could allow potential attackers to inject and execute arbitrary code:<br /><br /><i><b>Description:</b><br /><br />ShoutPro 1.5.2 fails to fully sanitize user input ($shout) that it writes<br />to the shouts.php file when adding a new message, this can result in the<br />injection and execution of arbitrary php code.<br /><br /><b>Scope:</b><br /><br />The vulnerability will in most cases allow an attacker to execute commands<br />on the system, the issue may be further perpetuated if the user has followed<br />the official documentation and chmoded the base folder to '777'</i><br /><br />The question is, are the attackers responsible for the current crop of Shoutbox attacks using the above exploit, or something new? It seems odd that a whole bunch of people would suddenly decide to start using a year old vulnerability, but more information is thin on the ground at the moment.<br /><br />A further complication is that <a href="http://www.shoutpro.com/">ShoutPro</a> is no longer maintained - all you can do is download the files and install as needed. Worse, if you go to the Download page, the current version available is.....you guessed it....<br /><br /><div align="center"><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><img alt="shoutno.jpg" src="http://blog.spywareguide.com/images/shoutno.jpg" class="mt-image-none" style="" height="83" width="376" /></span></div><br /></div><div><br />........whoops. If everyone is still downloading this version and there's potentially fresh exploits in circulation (with nobody to fix the issue in the ShoutPro code that's causing these hijacks), it's clear why so many people are currently being hit by this.<br /><br />As the individual I contacted said:<br /><br /><i>Since the shoutbox caused the security hole, the only way to prevent further damages was to completely delete it.<br /><br /></i>To me, given the fact that there's no support for this product anymore, I think I'd have to heartily endorse that advice. If you're running a Shoutbox, make sure you know what kind of Shoutbox you're running, what version and if you consider the risk of what's happening above taking place on your website or server to be acceptable or not...<i><br /></i></div>
        
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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://blog.spywareguide.com/2008/06/shoutphish.html">ShoutPro Vulnerability Currently Causing Issues For Websites</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[CISSP is here to stay! Sorry, Dre.]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/9607b0cffd1cc62c6c5a23140dc11d9a</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Dre wrote an article in which he put the argument down that the CISSP is on its way out . What he really argues is that a &quot;generalist&quot; Information Security position is no longer very important,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Dre wrote an article in which he put the argument down  that the <a href="http://www.tssci-security.com/archives/2008/06/19/rip-cissp/">CISSP is on its way out</a>. What he really argues is that a "generalist" Information Security position is no longer very important, specialisation is the only way to go.<br /><br />I disagree. I am a CISSP and an InfoSec "generalist' but that is not why I disagree.<br /><br />I love it when I read a blog and then read another about a totally different topic but that in some way relates to the first blog. And the second blog I read today is Mr Andy, IT guy's blog. In his blog entry he complains rather tongue in cheek about <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/%7Er/AndyItguy/%7E3/313504123/hello-my-name-is-andy-and-i-attend.html">how many meetings he attends</a>.<br /><br />While Andy and I are many miles apart it amazes me just how similar our lives are and, yes, I also spend ages in meetings. On average I spend about 2 hours of my day <span style="font-weight: bold;">not</span> in meetings. And I love it. Every meeting that I attend makes me more educated by how the business I work for - works. I also give my input and hopefully touch on all the people just how important protecting information is.<br /><br />Just like Andy, I was a techno geek until recently. I was a Firewall specialist. A Check Point Firewall specialist. I could read the pseudocode it would chuck out. I could edit the configuration with a text editor. I could read log files. I knew the system backwards. I am now employed in a company that doesn't even have a Check Point Firewall. I have moved onto something totally different.<br /><br />There is a need for people who can configure security devices, perform active directory  magic etc, etc. Even guys who are experts in logs. But you certainly don't want these guys tied up in meetings the whole day. You want them working on the systems that they know well.<br /><br />You also want someone who can go to meetings and interface with business. Someone who can make a risk decision or at least know who to speak to. This person must be technical but also able to chat formally and informally to business and must always be thinking security. He must understand that meetings are not a waste of time but time spent educating business about security.<br /><br />It is my belief that this person is not just important for a large organisation like the one I work for but even a one person shop should have one. Obviously, in that case a consultant should be used rather than a permanent employee but it is important.<br /><br />The person does not have to be a CISSP but it is a good way to show that they are interested in an InfoSec career.<br /><br />On a related note - I, like Andy, miss the technical side of InfoSec. But I also enjoy the ability to see my larger ideas implemented. I also enjoy selling InfoSec, something I am passionate about. In short, I enjoy my job and am happy I moved from being a techie to being an analyst. They are very, very different jobs. There are some people who may not be as happy as me. I know some, they are techies and are really good at what they do and they have no want to move to anything else. They want to specialise. In South Africa, these people are not rewarded for their knowledge and that is a problem because there is a need for the specialists. Hopefully, as demand increases and there are some techies that shine, they will be rewarded.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SecurityThoughts/~4/316167014" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 07:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SecurityThoughts/~3/316167014/cissp-is-here-to-stay-sorry-dre.html">CISSP is here to stay! Sorry, Dre.</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[NISTS FISMA Pase IIWho Certifies Those who Certify the Certifiers?]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/271d22495a76ce6a3ee6919616e42509</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Check out this slideshow and this workshop paper from 2006 on some ideas that NIST and a fairly large advisory panel have put together about certification of C&amp;A service providers. Ive heard about...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check <a href="http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SMA/fisma/documents/PPT/FISMA-Phase-II.pdf" target="_blank">out this slideshow</a> and this <a href="http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/SMA/fisma/documents/Workshop-April26-2006/NIST-FISMA-PhaseII-Workshop-Notes.pdf" target="_blank">workshop paper </a>from 2006 on some ideas that NIST and a fairly large advisory panel have put together about certification of C&amp;A service providers.  I&#8217;ve heard about this for several years now, and it&#8217;s been fairly much on a hiatus since 2006, but it&#8217;s starting to get some eartime lately.</p>
<p>The interesting thing to me is the big question of certifying companies v/s individuals.  I think the endgame will involve doing both because you certify companies for methodology and you certify people for skills.</p>
<p>This is the problem with certification and accreditation services as I see it today:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Security staffing shortage means lower priority:</strong>  If you are an agency CISO and have 2 skilled people, where are you going to put them?  Odds are, architecture, engineering, or some other high-payoff activity, meaning that C&amp;A services are candidates for entry-level security staff.</li>
<li><strong>Centralized v/s project-specific funding:</strong>  Some agencies have a &#8220;stable&#8221; of C&amp;A staff, if it&#8217;s done wrong, you end up with standardization and complete compliance but not real risk management.  The opposite of this is where all the C&amp;A activities are done on a per-project basis and huge repetition of effort ensues.  Basic management technique is to blend the 2 approaches.</li>
<li><strong>Crossover of personnel from &#8220;risk-avoidance&#8221; cultures:</strong>  Taking people from compliance-centric roles such as legal and accounting and putting them into a risk-based culture is a sure recipe for failure, overspending, and frustration.</li>
<li><strong>Accreditation is somewhat broken:</strong>  Not a new concept&#8211;teaching business owners about IT security risk is always hard to do, even more so when they have to sign off on the risk.</li>
<li><strong>C&amp;A services are a commodity market:</strong>  I <a href="http://www.guerilla-ciso.com/archives/412">covered this last week</a>.  This is pivotal, remember it for later.</li>
<li><strong>Misinformation abounds:</strong>  Because the NIST Risk Management Framework evolves so rapidly, what&#8217;s valid today is not the same that will be valid in 2 years.</li>
</ul>
<p>So what we&#8217;re looking at with this blog post is how would a program to certify the C&amp;A service providers look like.  NIST has 3 viable options:</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Use Existing Certs:</strong> Require basic certification levels for role descriptions.  DoD 8570.1M follows this approach.  Individual-level certification would be CAP, CISSP, CG.*, CISA, etc.  The company-level certification would be something like ITIL or CMMI.</li>
<li><strong>Second-Party Credentialing:</strong>  The industry creates a new certification program to satisfy NIST&#8217;s need without any input from NIST.  Part of this has already happened with some of the certifications like CAP.</li>
<li><strong>NIST-Sponsored Certification:</strong>  NIST becomes the &#8220;owner&#8221; of the certification and commissions organizations to test each other.</li>
</ul>
<p>Now just like DoD 8570.1M, I&#8217;m torn on this issue.  On one hand, it means that you&#8217;ll get a higher caliber of person performing services because they have to meet some kind of minimum standard.  On the other hand, introducing scarcity means that there will be even less people available to do the job.  But the big problem that I have is that if you introduce higher requirements on commodity services, you&#8217;re squeezing the market severely:  costs as a customer go up for basic services, vendors get even less of a margin on services, more charlatans show up because you&#8217;ve tipped over into higher-priced boutique services, and mayhem ensues.</p>
<p>Guys, I&#8217;m not really a rocket scientist on this, but really after all this effort, it seems to me that the #1 problem that the Government has is a lack of skilled people.  Yes, certifying people is a good thing because it helps weed out the dirtballs with a very rough sieve, but I get the feeling that maybe what we should be doing instead is trying to create more people with the skills we need.  Alas, that&#8217;s a future blog post&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, the last thing that I want to see happen is a meta-game of what&#8217;s going on with certifications right now&#8211;who certifies those who certify?  I think it&#8217;s a vicious cycle of cross-certification that will end up with the entire Government security industry becoming one huge self-licking ice cream cone.  =)</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[Yes, I touched an iPhone 3G: At Apple's big developer event kickoff on Monday, Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone 3G. Later that day, in a briefing, I was able to handle and use the phone briefly. It's...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yes, I touched an iPhone 3G:</strong> At Apple's big developer event kickoff on Monday, Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone 3G. Later that day, in a briefing, I was able to handle and use the phone briefly. It's lovely. But its inclusion of 3G service coupled with Wi-Fi, as well as a real GPS chip coupled with assistive cell-tower triangulation and Wi-Fi network location approximation means that you have a device that might fairly replace a computer for many purposes. I've had an iPhone with 2G (EDGE) service since its release, and I recently took a two-day trip with my older son leaving my computer behind. (I was able to use a relative's machine, but only did so to be able to type email more efficiently.) If Apple would simply allow the use of the Bluetooth HID profile (human interface devices) for keyboard and mouse support, a compact foldable keyboard would be the only accessory I would need.</p>

<p>Note that the iPhone 2G and 3G aren't more powerful than other, similar devices. Symbian platform devices from Nokia and others are in notably short supply in the US, but come in great quantities and varieties elsewhere, and have some pretty impressive computational power; Nokia owns nearly 50 percent of the worldwide smartphone market. Likewise, you can run desktop-to-mobile programs under Windows Mobile that let you have real computer applications repackaged for better use in the smaller form.</p>

<p>But that's not what the iPhone is about. It's a non-compromise device, even when a little compromise might help. The lack of a touch-typist keyboard hinders data entry, but it doesn't restrict any other purpose of the device. The inclusion of those keyboards is a huge compromise for all its competitors, even though it allows those competitors to act more like little computers.</p>

<p>And that's where it's odd for me. The iPhone is much more like a full-blown computer than any smartphone I've used. It might be the superior browser, and the fact that a single company and design vision has ensured the maximum CPU is available for each current task, and that the interface and actions are nearly always consistent across every piece of software. Contrast that with many smartphones that don't just have ugly interfaces, crippled Web browsers, and varying input methods, but also require you to learn a different approach to using nearly every different piece of software on the phone.</p>

<p>Apple isn't about to kill its competitors, but they are providing an odd amount of support for killing a laptop.</p>

<p>On a slightly tangential front, Apple CEO Steve Jobs claim that their phone's 3G speed was nearly that of Wi-Fi requires some explanation. Jobs needed a footnote: "compared to typical Wi-Fi hotspots that have about 1.5 Mbps of downstream backhaul." The iPhone is clearly processor limited for how fast it can render Web pages and handle network processing. If you stick an iPhone on a 10 Mbps-backed network via Wi-Fi, the browsing experience isn't very different than on a 1.5 Mbps-backed Wi-Fi hotspot, in my experience with the current phone.</p>

<p>So clearly, there's more optimization to be done and more hardware upgrades to come in order to have a mobile device that can live up to whatever network it generally works on. For the iPhone 3G, Wi-Fi is an alternative, but it's clearly not intended as a superior alternative.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <description><![CDATA[OK, I read a lot, I mean a lot on a regular basis. There is a lot of tripe floating about the tubes of the internet and Im always pleased to read a new posting from several folks who buck that trend....]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I read a lot, I mean <b>a lot</b> on a regular basis. There is a lot of tripe floating about the tubes of the internet and I&#8217;m always pleased to read a new posting from several folks who buck that trend. Among which I count John Heasman. He has a great new post on his site about stealing password hashes with Java and Internet Exploder.</p>
<p>From Aut Disce, Aut Discede:</p>
<blockquote><p>Consider for a moment the state of client-side bugs 5 or 6 years ago. Attacks such as this, a multi-stage miscellany of IE and Mediaplayer bugs that resulted in the &#8220;silent delivery and installation of an executable on the target computer, no client input other than viewing a web page&#8221; were reported with regularity. Gradually these type of attack gave way to exploitation of direct browser implementation flaws such as the IFRAME overflow and DHTML memory corruption flaws. So what has become of the multi-stage attacks - have they become redundant? The answer to this, which I&#8217;m sure you can guess, is a resounding &#8220;no&#8221; and will be emphatically demonstrated in my upcoming Black Hat talk &#8220;The Internet is Broken: Beyond Document.Cookie - Extreme Client Side Exploitation&#8221;, a joint double session presentation co-presented by Billy Rios, Nate McFeters and Rob Carter.</p>
<p>As a teaser for that, I&#8217;m going to revisit an old attack - pre-computed dictionary attacks on NTLM - and discuss how we can steal domain credentials from the Internet with a bit of help from Java. I&#8217;m going to split it into two posts. In this post we&#8217;ll apply the attack to Windows XP (a fully patched SP3 with IE7). In my next post we&#8217;ll consider its impact on Windows Vista.</p></blockquote>
<p>For the full article read on.</p>
<p>Why are you still here? Go read it. </p>
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