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      <title><![CDATA[The Seven Habits of Highly Ineffective Terrorists]]></title>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most counterterrorism policies fail, not because of tactical problems, but because of a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates terrorists in the first place. If we're ever going to defeat terrorism, we need to understand what drives people to become terrorists in the first place. </p>

<p>Conventional wisdom holds that terrorism is inherently political, and that people become terrorists for political reasons. This is the "strategic" model of terrorism, and it's basically an economic model. It posits that people resort to terrorism when they believe -- rightly or wrongly -- that terrorism is worth it; that is, when they believe the political gains of terrorism minus the political costs are greater than if they engaged in some other, more peaceful form of protest. It's assumed, for example, that people join Hamas to achieve a Palestinian state; that people join the PKK to attain a Kurdish national homeland; and that people join al-Qaida to, among other things, get the United States out of the Persian Gulf. </p>

<p>If you believe this model, the way to fight terrorism is to change that equation, and that's what most experts advocate. Governments tend to minimize the political gains of terrorism through a no-concessions policy; the international community tends to recommend reducing the political grievances of terrorists via appeasement, in hopes of getting them to renounce violence. Both advocate policies to provide effective nonviolent alternatives, like free elections. </p>

<p>Historically, none of these solutions has worked with any regularity. Max Abrahms, a predoctoral fellow at Stanford University's Center for International Security and Cooperation, has studied dozens of terrorist groups from all over the world. He argues that the model is wrong. In a <a href="http://maxabrahms.com/pdfs/DC_250-1846.pdf">paper</a> published this year in International Security that -- sadly -- doesn't have the title "Seven Habits of Highly Ineffective Terrorists," he discusses, well, seven habits of highly ineffective terrorists. These seven tendencies are seen in terrorist organizations all over the world, and they directly contradict the theory that terrorists are political maximizers: </p>

<p>Terrorists, he writes, (1) attack civilians, a policy that has a lousy track record of convincing those civilians to give the terrorists what they want; (2) treat terrorism as a first resort, not a last resort, failing to embrace nonviolent alternatives like elections; (3) don't compromise with their target country, even when those compromises are in their best interest politically; (4) have protean political platforms, which regularly, and sometimes radically, change; (5) often engage in anonymous attacks, which precludes the target countries making political concessions to them; (6) regularly attack other terrorist groups with the same political platform; and (7) resist disbanding, even when they consistently fail to achieve their political objectives or when their stated political objectives have been achieved. </p>

<p>Abrahms has an alternative model to explain all this: People turn to terrorism for social solidarity. He theorizes that people join terrorist organizations worldwide in order to be part of a community, much like the reason inner-city youths join gangs in the United States. </p>

<p>The evidence supports this. Individual terrorists often have no prior involvement with a group's political agenda, and often join multiple terrorist groups with incompatible platforms. Individuals who join terrorist groups are frequently not oppressed in any way, and often can't describe the political goals of their organizations. People who join terrorist groups most often have friends or relatives who are members of the group, and the great majority of terrorist are socially isolated: unmarried young men or widowed women who weren't working prior to joining. These things are true for members of terrorist groups as diverse as the IRA and al-Qaida. </p>

<p>For example, several of the 9/11 hijackers planned to fight in Chechnya, but they didn't have the right paperwork so they attacked America instead. The mujahedeen had no idea whom they would attack after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan, so they sat around until they came up with a new enemy: America. Pakistani terrorists regularly defect to another terrorist group with a totally different political platform. Many new al-Qaida members say, unconvincingly, that they decided to become a jihadist after reading an extreme, anti-American blog, or after converting to Islam, sometimes just a few weeks before. These people know little about politics or Islam, and they frankly don't even seem to care much about learning more. The blogs they turn to don't have a lot of substance in these areas, even though more informative blogs do exist. </p>

<p>All of this explains the seven habits. It's not that they're ineffective; it's that they have a different goal. They might not be effective politically, but they are effective socially: They all help preserve the group's existence and cohesion. </p>

<p>This kind of analysis isn't just theoretical; it has practical implications for counterterrorism. Not only can we now better understand who is likely to become a terrorist, we can engage in strategies specifically designed to weaken the social bonds within terrorist organizations. Driving a wedge between group members -- commuting prison sentences in exchange for actionable intelligence, planting more double agents within terrorist groups -- will go a long way to weakening the social bonds within those groups. </p>

<p>We also need to pay more attention to the socially marginalized than to the politically downtrodden, like unassimilated communities in Western countries. We need to support vibrant, benign communities and organizations as alternative ways for potential terrorists to get the social cohesion they need. And finally, we need to minimize collateral damage in our counterterrorism operations, as well as clamping down on bigotry and hate crimes, which just creates more dislocation and social isolation, and the inevitable calls for revenge.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.wired.com/print/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2008/10/securitymatters_1002">previously appeared</a> on Wired.com.</p><div class="feedflare">
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Most counterterrorism policies fail, not because of tactical problems, but because of a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates terrorists in the first place. If we're ever going to defeat terrorism, we need to understand what drives people to become terrorists in the first place.
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<p>
Conventional wisdom holds that terrorism is inherently political, and that people become terrorists for political reasons. This is the "strategic" model of terrorism, and it's basically an economic model. It posits that people resort to terrorism when they believe -- rightly or wrongly -- that terrorism is worth it; that is, when they believe the political gains of terrorism minus the political costs are greater than if they engaged in some other, more peaceful form of protest. It's assumed, for example, that people join Hamas to achieve a Palestinian state; that people join the PKK to attain a Kurdish national homeland; and that people join al-Qaida to, among other things, get the United States out of the Persian Gulf.
</p>

<p>
If you believe this model, the way to fight terrorism is to change that equation, and that's what most experts advocate. Governments tend to minimize the political gains of terrorism through a no-concessions policy; the international community tends to recommend reducing the political grievances of terrorists via appeasement, in hopes of getting them to renounce violence. Both advocate policies to provide effective nonviolent alternatives, like free elections.
</p>

<p>
Historically, none of these solutions has worked with any regularity. Max Abrahms, a predoctoral fellow at Stanford University's Center for International Security and Cooperation, has studied dozens of terrorist groups from all over the world. He argues that the model is wrong. In a <a href="http://maxabrahms.com/pdfs/DC_250-1846.pdf">paper</a> (.pdf) published this year in <cite>International Security</cite> that -- sadly -- doesn't have the title "Seven Habits of Highly Ineffective Terrorists," he discusses, well, seven habits of highly ineffective terrorists. These seven tendencies are seen in terrorist organizations all over the world, and they directly contradict the theory that terrorists are political maximizers:
</p>

<p>
Terrorists, he writes, (1) attack civilians, a policy that has a lousy track record of convincing those civilians to give the terrorists what they want; (2) treat terrorism as a first resort, not a last resort, failing to embrace nonviolent alternatives like elections; (3) don't compromise with their target country, even when those compromises are in their best interest politically; (4) have protean political platforms, which regularly, and sometimes radically, change; (5) often engage in anonymous attacks, which precludes the target countries making political concessions to them; (6) regularly attack other terrorist groups with the same political platform; and (7) resist disbanding, even when they consistently fail to achieve their political objectives or when their stated political objectives have been achieved.
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<p>
Abrahms has an alternative model to explain all this:  People turn to terrorism for social solidarity. He theorizes that people join terrorist organizations worldwide in order to be part of a community, much like the reason inner-city youths join gangs in the United States.
</p>

<p>
The evidence supports this. Individual terrorists often have no prior involvement with a group's political agenda, and often join multiple terrorist groups with incompatible platforms. Individuals who join terrorist groups are frequently not oppressed in any way, and often can't describe the political goals of their organizations. People who join terrorist groups most often have friends or relatives who are members of the group, and the great majority of terrorist are socially isolated: unmarried young men or widowed women who weren't working prior to joining. These things are true for members of terrorist groups as diverse as the IRA and al-Qaida.
</p>

<p>
For example, several of the 9/11 hijackers planned to fight in Chechnya, but they didn't have the right paperwork so they attacked America instead. The mujahedeen had no idea whom they would attack after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan, so they sat around until they came up with a new enemy: America. Pakistani terrorists regularly defect to another terrorist group with a totally different political platform. Many new al-Qaida members say, unconvincingly, that they decided to become a jihadist after reading an extreme, anti-American blog, or after converting to Islam, sometimes just a few weeks before. These people know little about politics or Islam, and they frankly don't even seem to care much about learning more. The blogs they turn to don't have a lot of substance in these areas, even though more informative blogs do exist.
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All of this explains the seven habits. It's not that they're ineffective; it's that they have a different goal. They might not be effective politically, but they are effective socially: They all help preserve the group's existence and cohesion.
</p><p>
This kind of analysis isn't just theoretical; it has practical implications for counterterrorism. Not only can we now better understand who is likely to become a terrorist, we can engage in strategies specifically designed to weaken the social bonds within terrorist organizations. Driving a wedge between group members -- commuting prison sentences in exchange for actionable intelligence, planting more double agents within terrorist groups -- will go a long way to weakening the social bonds within those groups.
</p><p>
We also need to pay more attention to the socially marginalized than to the politically downtrodden, like unassimilated communities in Western countries. We need to support vibrant, benign communities and organizations as alternative ways for potential terrorists to get the social cohesion they need. And finally, we need to minimize collateral damage in our counterterrorism operations, as well as clamping down on bigotry and hate crimes, which just creates more dislocation and social isolation, and the inevitable calls for revenge.
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<p><cite>Bruce Schneier is Chief Security Technology Officer of BT, and author of </cite>Beyond Fear: Thinking Sensibly About Security in an Uncertain World<cite>.</cite>
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In the case of phishing, it is relatively clear. The developers believe the PKI book. The PKI people believe in the efficacy of digital signatures to prove stuff. The...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#160;Must read <a href="https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/001093.html">post</a> by Iang:</p><br /><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px; ">In the case of phishing, it is relatively clear. The developers believe the PKI book. The PKI people believe in the efficacy of digital signatures to prove stuff. The cryptographers believe in the perfection of mathematics, and the security world believes in the completeness of their own learning. They are all wrong, but only at the large level of generalisations, not at the detailed level of particular claims. Any one of the claims,&#160;<em>in isolation</em>&#160;can be shown to be true. But, generalising these brittle claims to be solid building blocks is a completely different question. Few of the claims are strong enough to partake in a general model without severe support; the general model of secure browsing is the best evidence of how it is secure in name only.</span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px; ">How then is it built? By accident or by design, a series of claims meet together in a holy ring of righteous architecture. Each of the proponents claim loudly that their part is strong, but the ring has no strength. Eventually, one of the claims in the links is broken. For phishing, the browsers never did have the potential to show authenticity; not only did they not have the security strength to do it (c.f., Skype v.&#160;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-site_request_forgery" style="color: #003366; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: underline; ">CSRF</a>), they didn&#39;t even do it in practice (recall the lost padlock?), and their recent efforts to show authenticity (c.f. colour debate) reveal how far they are from understanding even the goal, let alone the implementation. Once that link was broken, and money was made, all the others revealed their weaknesses, as crooks systematically worked to breach the lot.</span><br /><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px; ">If we look at the wider financial collapse, now underscored by the nationalisation of the worlds biggest financiers of mortgages ($ 5.3 trillion.... or is it $ 5.4 ?), we see the same pattern. The bankers believed in their product. The originators believed in their origination, the securitizers believed in their free market and accurate price, and the holders believed in the assets. The CDO, the subprime, the other 100 special names, each was a contract. Each was clear in and of itself. 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The elegant keystone of finance was to finally lift up the first one to rest on the last.</span><br /><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px; ">Thus, the banks themselves invested their capital in their own product.</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px;"><br /></span></p><div><span style="color: #666666; font-family: georgia; line-height: 19px;"><span style="color: #000000; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; line-height: 15px; ">Maybe computer security failures won&#39;t ever result in $6 trillion worth of failures, but every day we bet more and more of our economy on networked computer systems. 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<br></div><br><div>But the business and software worlds have changed a bit from the early 90s, even if security tooling hasn't</div><br>
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<div>If you sent an alien from outer space to observe what an enterprise looks like today, and asked that alien to file an objective report as to the actual connections and message exchanges it wouldn't look like the idyllic, clear separation of good stuff from bad stuff, it would look like this</div><br><br><p><a href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/thenetwork.jpg"><img  class="image-full " alt="Thenetwork" title="Thenetwork" src="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/thenetwork.jpg" border="0"></a></p><br><div>There is no firewall in any meaningful sense, there are links, federations, communities of interest, business units, integration points, outsourcing arrangements, business processes. In short, there is information and commerce in all its messy vitality. </div><br><div>Inside the firewall and outside the firewall is not a security architecture, its historical <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruft">cruft</a> a Victorian, industrial age artifact that snuck into your Visio, not something that protects your businesses' applications and data.</div><br><div>If you want to let the world access your maifnrame, SAP, Siebel, or whatever so they can buy things from you, that is probably a really good idea. But don't assume that RACF or what have you came down on stone tablets from Moses. Just because your transaction is "inside the firewall" doesnt mean that your security model can only focus on resources and objects in isolation. It has to focus on how your business just broke everything apart and then re-connected everything. The subjects are different, the sessions are different, and the transactions are different. Just because the objects and resources are the same and are "inside the firewall" means little when all the context and all the relationships are different.</div><br><div>The world is not firewalled, its federated. Just because its convenient for enterprisey folks to buy into the same hallucination doesn't make it reality.</div><br><div>Next week, I am speaking at <a href="http://www.ssosummit.com/program/Agenda-at-a-Glance.cfm">Ping's SSO Summit</a> on Web Services SSO basically everything that happens after you press <span style="font-family: Arial; line-height: normal; ">"SUBMIT" on a website. Your data has a journey as dangerous as Frodo Baggins' travels through Mordor. The talk traces the path from the website through the perils that lurk in the enterprise and legacy systems, we will look at ways to get Frodo and Sam home safely and we won't rely on Visio firewalls where Mithril is required.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span><a style="display: inline;" href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c75869e200e553c410e98834-pi"><img  class="at-xid-6a00d83451c75869e200e553c410e98834 " alt="Ghostseparationwall" src="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c75869e200e553c410e98834-320wi"></a>
<br></span></div><br><div>(Note - Thanks for reminding me of the analogy <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/jims/">Jim</a>)</div>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[The "IT admin bad guy"? Not sure I buy it much..]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/8958e3fe219ac7cbd8d45d9cc824ea25</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[The recent survey on IT Admins misusing privileges might be accurate - but am not sure I buy it much. I'd like to see some of the questions as well

Most of the IT admins I have met with have a sense...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[The recent survey on <a href="http://bitarmor.blogspot.com/2008/06/i-spy-employees-snooping-around.html">IT Admins misusing privileges</a> might be accurate - but am not sure I buy it much. I'd like to see some of the questions as well :)<br /><br />Most of the IT admins I have met with have a sense of the responsibility that comes with their power. True, there might be some bad eggs or apples in the bunch, but overall I think they are ethically sound people.<br /><br />This is like implying that since the guard to the safe has access to it, he/she might be taking advantage of that ability. My view is that the state of technology is (or was) such that there is no way around it - there had to be someone who has access.<br /><br />However, to get this monkey off the back of IT admins, all they have to do it install technology that creates isolation between content and infrastructure. IT admins don't lose anything - they get their work done, and they wont be scapegoats for leaked data or bear the burden because of a few rotten apples.<div class="feedflare">
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      <description><![CDATA[Is there security needed between virtual machines? Some say no, some say yes. I've been out talking to a number of virtualization users and non users on this topic and I'm finding that some say no and...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Is there security needed between virtual machines?&nbsp; Some say no, some say yes.&nbsp; I've been out talking to a number of virtualization users and non users on this topic and I'm finding that some say no and some say yes.&nbsp; The users of virtualization technology tend to say yes while others looking at virtualization from the outside tend to say no.&nbsp; Why is this?</p>

<p>Well, I thought I'd blog on my thoughts on this!</p>

<p>You see, in the physical datacenter there is no firewalling between servers plugged into the same switch and because of this some people think, well if its not done in the physical world why should it be done in the virtual world.&nbsp; I believe that its not done in the physical world today because there are no solutions today that embed security into datacenter switches.&nbsp; Should it be done in the physical world?&nbsp; I think so!&nbsp; It never hurts to get security as close as possible to the things you are trying to protect and what better place than the switch port in which the critical asset are connected to.&nbsp; This is why people have HOST BASED FW/IPS ON SERVERS!&nbsp; To get security as close as possible!&nbsp; Is that needed?&nbsp; </p>

<p>So my first response to those that say, security between virtual machines is not needed because its not done in the physical world is:&nbsp; Well, just because people have done things one way for many years doesn't mean there isn't a better way.</p>

<p>Would environments be more secure if there was security between servers?&nbsp; I tend to think so.&nbsp; You see, many of the attacks that are taking place these days are not attacks for fame but attacks for fortune and gone are the days where people just hacked to spread nasty viruses.&nbsp; Its all about the data these days (ie. credit cards, social security numbers, etc).&nbsp; We've all heard about the TJ Max security breach where customer data was compromised and many others like banks that have had credit cards compromised.&nbsp; </p>

<p>How and the heck do you think most of these things happened?&nbsp; Attackers are targeting the datacenter these days.&nbsp; Physical or Virtual.&nbsp; Their gateway into these environments are the Web Front End Servers.&nbsp; Let me say that again.&nbsp; The Web Front End Servers!&nbsp; Hackers get to the data from the web front end server that talks to the database backend server.&nbsp; This useually occurs by something called &quot;Cross-Site Scripting&quot; or &quot;SQL Injection&quot; breaches.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Here is a trival way of how this happens:</p>

<p>A hacker finds a vulnerable web site.&nbsp; He sometimes does this by something called Google Hacking.&nbsp; He uses Google to search for sites that has vulnerabilities on it.&nbsp; Say a web site has some content on one of the pages that says &quot;Powered by Drupal 4.1&quot;.&nbsp; If a hacker knows that Drupal 4.1 software has a vulnerability in it, he can now target all the search results related to this.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_hacking">Click Here for more detail</a>.</p>

<p>Now lets say Drupal 4.1 on a web site has a SQL-Injection vulnerability because the developer of the Drupal software didn't do Form Field Validation properly.&nbsp; A Form field is something you fill out on a web page like a form that asks for the user name and password.&nbsp; User names and passwords to log into the web site are stored on whats called a Database Server.&nbsp; Hmmm... So this means the web server needs to talk to the database server right?&nbsp; Yes!&nbsp; Keep this in the back of our head for now.&nbsp; The hacker enters in &quot;Admin&quot; for the user ID and &quot;password doesn't matter <strong>'or 1=1--</strong>&quot; for the password.&nbsp; And presto!&nbsp; He is logged in to the server as Admin.</p>

<p>The reason he was able to log in is because the web site sends a SQL Database command to the Database server and because the developer of the Drupal software didn't do &quot;Form Field Validation&quot; properly (method of checking for invalid characters like the ' (single quote)&nbsp; symbol), the user was able to bypass the password.&nbsp; Notice the 'OR 1=1 command appended to the password.&nbsp; One does equal one so therefore it will return a TRUE result to the password checker and the OR says use the password typed in (password doesnt matter) OR check to see if one is equal to one.&nbsp; If its true then the password is valid for this user which is Admin.</p>

<p>Now that the user is on the web server, he probably has the ability to connect to the database server or other servers in the network.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because there is connectivity from the web front end to all of the backend servers.&nbsp; He essently can backdoor his way throughout the network. </p>

<p>Another method is for him to append some SQL statement to another SQL statement.&nbsp; Lets say their is a FORM FIELD on the website that collects some information from the database to display it to web site users.&nbsp; It could be entering in the Zip code to find store locations in your area.&nbsp; Instead of putting in the zip code you could put in &quot;95123 'UNION SELECT * FROM credit_card_table--&quot;.&nbsp; The hacker is injecting via the UNION command (which means join one SQL statement with another one) a command that says grab all (via the asterisk) information out the credit card table.</p>

<p>Lastly, the hacker can use the UNION command to write text of his desire to a text file on the database server.&nbsp; He may write some nasty code, tell the database to write the code to a file and then tell the server to execute that file.&nbsp; The code could be used to do a denial of service attack to the other virtual machines or whatever.&nbsp; The possibilities are endless!!</p>

<p>Anyway, these are high level examples.&nbsp; I think you get the point.</p>

<p>The Web Front End Virtual Machine has a need to talk to the Web Back End Virtual Machine and security such as Firewalling, Intrusion Prevention definately needs to be in place to have a higher level of security.</p>

<p>Another reason to have security between virtual machines is because servers are now mobile in the virtual world.&nbsp; They move between trust domains to take advantage of computing resources that may be available on a given piece of hardware.&nbsp; Lets say one PHYSICAL server was hosting database VM's and another PHYSICAL server was hosting file server VM's.&nbsp; The file server VM could VMOTION to the same environment as the database VM's.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now where is your isolation between trust domains or unlike resources?</p>

<p>People should think about this problem in greater detail.&nbsp; I'd love to hear everyones comments as to whether or not they think security between VM's is needed.</p>

<p><a href="http://vmwaresecurity.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/22/creditcardhacker_2.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=640,height=400,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img height="312" border="0" width="500" alt="Creditcardhacker_2" title="Creditcardhacker_2" src="http://vmwaresecurity.typepad.com/security_in_the_virtual_w/images/2008/06/22/creditcardhacker_2.jpg" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left;" /></a>
 </p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>John Peterson<br />Montego Networks</p></div>
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      <description><![CDATA[Is there security needed between virtual machines? Some say no, some say yes. I've been out talking to a number of virtualization users and non users on this topic and I'm finding that some say no and...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Is there security needed between virtual machines?&nbsp; Some say no, some say yes.&nbsp; I've been out talking to a number of virtualization users and non users on this topic and I'm finding that some say no and some say yes.&nbsp; The users of virtualization technology tend to say yes while others looking at virtualization from the outside tend to say no.&nbsp; Why is this?</p>

<p>Well, I thought I'd blog on my thoughts on this!</p>

<p>You see, in the physical datacenter there is no firewalling between servers plugged into the same switch and because of this some people think, well if its not done in the physical world why should it be done in the virtual world.&nbsp; I believe that its not done in the physical world today because there are no solutions today that embed security into datacenter switches.&nbsp; Should it be done in the physical world?&nbsp; I think so!&nbsp; It never hurts to get security as close as possible to the things you are trying to protect and what better place than the switch port in which the critical asset are connected to.&nbsp; This is why people have HOST BASED FW/IPS ON SERVERS!&nbsp; To get security as close as possible!&nbsp; Is that needed?&nbsp; </p>

<p>So my first response to those that say, security between virtual machines is not needed because its not done in the physical world is:&nbsp; Well, just because people have done things one way for many years doesn't mean there isn't a better way.</p>

<p>Would environments be more secure if there was security between servers?&nbsp; I tend to think so.&nbsp; You see, many of the attacks that are taking place these days are not attacks for fame but attacks for fortune and gone are the days where people just hacked to spread nasty viruses.&nbsp; Its all about the data these days (ie. credit cards, social security numbers, etc).&nbsp; We've all heard about the TJ Max security breach where customer data was compromised and many others like banks that have had credit cards compromised.&nbsp; </p>

<p>How and the heck do you think most of these things happened?&nbsp; Attackers are targeting the datacenter these days.&nbsp; Physical or Virtual.&nbsp; Their gateway into these environments are the Web Front End Servers.&nbsp; Let me say that again.&nbsp; The Web Front End Servers!&nbsp; Hackers get to the data from the web front end server that talks to the database backend server.&nbsp; This useually occurs by something called &quot;Cross-Site Scripting&quot; or &quot;SQL Injection&quot; breaches.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Here is a trival way of how this happens:</p>

<p>A hacker finds a vulnerable web site.&nbsp; He sometimes does this by something called Google Hacking.&nbsp; He uses Google to search for sites that has vulnerabilities on it.&nbsp; Say a web site has some content on one of the pages that says &quot;Powered by Drupal 4.1&quot;.&nbsp; If a hacker knows that Drupal 4.1 software has a vulnerability in it, he can now target all the search results related to this.&nbsp; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_hacking">Click Here for more detail</a>.</p>

<p>Now lets say Drupal 4.1 on a web site has a SQL-Injection vulnerability because the developer of the Drupal software didn't do Form Field Validation properly.&nbsp; A Form field is something you fill out on a web page like a form that asks for the user name and password.&nbsp; User names and passwords to log into the web site are stored on whats called a Database Server.&nbsp; Hmmm... So this means the web server needs to talk to the database server right?&nbsp; Yes!&nbsp; Keep this in the back of our head for now.&nbsp; The hacker enters in &quot;Admin&quot; for the user ID and &quot;password doesn't matter <strong>'or 1=1--</strong>&quot; for the password.&nbsp; And presto!&nbsp; He is logged in to the server as Admin.</p>

<p>The reason he was able to log in is because the web site sends a SQL Database command to the Database server and because the developer of the Drupal software didn't do &quot;Form Field Validation&quot; properly (method of checking for invalid characters like the ' (single quote)&nbsp; symbol), the user was able to bypass the password.&nbsp; Notice the 'OR 1=1 command appended to the password.&nbsp; One does equal one so therefore it will return a TRUE result to the password checker and the OR says use the password typed in (password doesnt matter) OR check to see if one is equal to one.&nbsp; If its true then the password is valid for this user which is Admin.</p>

<p>Now that the user is on the web server, he probably has the ability to connect to the database server or other servers in the network.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; Because there is connectivity from the web front end to all of the backend servers.&nbsp; He essently can backdoor his way throughout the network. </p>

<p>Another method is for him to append some SQL statement to another SQL statement.&nbsp; Lets say their is a FORM FIELD on the website that collects some information from the database to display it to web site users.&nbsp; It could be entering in the Zip code to find store locations in your area.&nbsp; Instead of putting in the zip code you could put in &quot;95123 'UNION SELECT * FROM credit_card_table--&quot;.&nbsp; The hacker is injecting via the UNION command (which means join one SQL statement with another one) a command that says grab all (via the asterisk) information out the credit card table.</p>

<p>Lastly, the hacker can use the UNION command to write text of his desire to a text file on the database server.&nbsp; He may write some nasty code, tell the database to write the code to a file and then tell the server to execute that file.&nbsp; The code could be used to do a denial of service attack to the other virtual machines or whatever.&nbsp; The possibilities are endless!!</p>

<p>Anyway, these are high level examples.&nbsp; I think you get the point.</p>

<p>The Web Front End Virtual Machine has a need to talk to the Web Back End Virtual Machine and security such as Firewalling, Intrusion Prevention definately needs to be in place to have a higher level of security.</p>

<p>Another reason to have security between virtual machines is because servers are now mobile in the virtual world.&nbsp; They move between trust domains to take advantage of computing resources that may be available on a given piece of hardware.&nbsp; Lets say one PHYSICAL server was hosting database VM's and another PHYSICAL server was hosting file server VM's.&nbsp; The file server VM could VMOTION to the same environment as the database VM's.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now where is your isolation between trust domains or unlike resources?</p>

<p>People should think about this problem in greater detail.&nbsp; I'd love to hear everyones comments as to whether or not they think security between VM's is needed.</p>

<p><a href="http://vmwaresecurity.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/22/creditcardhacker_2.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=640,height=400,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false"><img height="312" border="0" width="500" alt="Creditcardhacker_2" title="Creditcardhacker_2" src="http://vmwaresecurity.typepad.com/security_in_the_virtual_w/images/2008/06/22/creditcardhacker_2.jpg" style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px; float: left;" /></a>
 </p><br /><br /><br /><br /><p>John Peterson<br />Montego Networks</p></div>
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      <description><![CDATA[Keeping tabs on the upcoming Last Hope conference this July
From the Last Hope
For Immediate Release
THE LAST HOPE TO FEATURE HACKER RADIO
At The Last HOPE conference, hackers will broadcast their...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeping tabs on the upcoming Last Hope conference this July.</p>
<p>From the Last Hope:</p>
<blockquote><p>For Immediate Release</p>
<p>THE LAST HOPE TO FEATURE HACKER RADIO</p>
<p>At The Last HOPE conference, hackers will broadcast their minds and their iPods.</p>
<p>In the center of the summer&#8217;s top hacker event will be a small isolation booth. &#8220;Radio Statler!&#8221; as the station is called, will send out a three day broadcast of all-original material. From the center of Manhattan, around the clock, discussions of the past, present, and future of technology, creativity, and humanity itself will be transmitted.</p>
<p>The first night of the conference, July 18th, the station will carry a program called Digital Music Night, hosted by Peter Kirn, editor of createdigitalmusic.com. The three hour live concert will feature a convergence of artists and musicians using custom, original tools for performing live in new and bizarre ways, including:</p>
<p>   * Houseplants hooked up to live computer visuals and music<br />
   * A mutant trumpet, halfway between the digital and acoustic worlds<br />
   * Packets of data visualized as three-dimensional eye candy<br />
   * An animated digital art sketchpad controlled by Wii remote<br />
   * A set of digital gloves for gestural DJing<br />
   * A robotic drummer<br />
   * Computer-generated vocals that sing your spam folder to you<br />
   * Live digital art made from vintage game consoles and computers</p>
<p>The station will give additional talk and interview time to the conference&#8217;s speakers, broadcast the keynotes and other popular seminars, and offer attendees who don&#8217;t speak at the podium a chance to share their ideas. Many hackers who already do their own podcasts are being asked to contribute and do special programs for the conference.</p>
<p>Program and content submissions are still being taken, volunteers are being sought, and the organizers are looking for promotional sponsors to help cover the cost of broadcasting. More information can be found at http://radio.hope.net/ or by emailing projects@hope.net.
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<p>Damn, I&#8217;ll have to break out Garageband or maybe I&#8217;ll have to submit one of <a href="http://mescaline.liquidmatrix.org">these tracks</a>? HA!</p>

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      <title><![CDATA[Software and Security Separateness - You're Doing It Wrong]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Many years ago, I was a trout bum, and the guy who captured that wonderful experience better than anyone was John Gierach , I was lucky enough to live a few miles up the Frying Pan river from where he...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Many years ago, I was a trout bum, and the guy who captured that wonderful experience better than anyone was&#0160;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gierach">John Gierach</a>, I was lucky enough to live a few miles up the Frying Pan river from where he stayed when he was fishing up there. In one of his stories he recounted the following<div><br /><div>New enthusiastic flyfisherman: &quot;When you get your cast just right, its better than sex!&quot;</div><br /><div>Other person: &quot;You are doing one of those things the wrong way.&quot;</div><br /><div>In the same way that you can get two separate things confused you can also get confused by thinking two things that are joined as being separate - if you think security is one thing and software development is another, you are doing both of them the wrong way. I had a coffee with a marketing person yesterday, he had been to my talk at Secure 360 conference and said he liked it because he could understand it, the others were too technical (a lot of stuff in my talk was fairly technical as well, but I always strive to keep the narrative flow accessible to everyone). He really wanted to understand what I did. After several attempts of my explaining the software security problem, I pointed to one side of the coffee shop and said - the developers sit over there. Hundreds or even thousands of them. The security people sit over there on the opposite side of the coffee shop. They are separate groups, with separate agendas, they rarely collaborate, there is no center. And he got it.</div><br /><div>Software development is its own culture discipline - processes, scripts, languages, and so on. Security is its own discipline and culture. As long as these remain separate disciplines, separate cultures, we&#39;ll see the same results we have seen so far - namely minimal to no security is software. On a basic level things are not going to improve until the practices, tools, and people are unified.</div><br /><div><a href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c75869e200e552905ae98833-pi" style="display: block;"><img alt="Pond" border="0" class="at-xid-6a00d83451c75869e200e552905ae98833 " src="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c75869e200e552905ae98833-800pi" title="Pond" /></a>
<br /></div><br /><div>This corresponds to <a href="http://natureoforder.com/">Christopher Alexander&#39;s</a> fifteenth and most important fundamental property Not-Separateness</div><br /><div><blockquote>Let me summarize in structural terms what this property is all about. It states that any center which has deep life is connected, in feeling, to what surrounds it, and is not cut off, isolated, or separated. In a center which is deeply coherent there is a lack of separation - instead a profound connection - between that center and other centers which surround it, so that the various centers melt into one another and become inseparable.&#0160;<span style="font-style: italic; ">It is that quality which comes about from each center, to the degree it is connected to the whole world.</span></blockquote></div><div>Now, let&#39;s re-examine infosec and software- we have separate groups of people, separate projects, separate agendas. They don&#39;t agree on a center. Alexander&#39;s Not-Separateness underscores not only why infosec and security has issues creating value together, but also why we need to look at <a href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2008/02/security-deploy.html">decentralized software security architectures</a>, not centralized or distributed architectures.</div><br /><div>More deeply, so much (all?) of infosec is focused on separation and isolation, its this misguided assumption that has led infosec to a sorry record of <a href="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2008/05/security-evolut.html">non-innovation</a>. A failure to realize that its a building problem, a development problem, a integration problems, and a scalability problem <span style="font-style: italic;">with security properties</span>.</div><br /><div>The high priests of infosec talk about protocols and access control models, instead what we need are strong centers. Obsessing about isolation mechanisms that don&#39;t scale is the wrong way to go, focusing on ways to build and integrate strong centers is. Its not about access control, its about strong subject-object centers.</div>

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