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      <title><![CDATA[Open source software a security risk, study claims]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Open source software is a significant business risk for enterprises, according to a study published this week by security vendor Fortify and security consultant Larry Suto, which examined 11 open...]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[How personal information wound up at the side of the road is a mystery]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/42893bd55f98a595373bc046f7b93a94</link>
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Date Reported
7/10/08

Organization
Liberty Furniture

a North Carolina based company with Mid-South ties to Cromcraft - a furniture warehouse in Tate County&quot;,...]]></description>
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<img src="http://breachblog.com/images/95781-88451/liberty.jpg" width="200" align="right" height="150"><font size="2"><b>Date Reported: </b><br>7/10/08<br><br><b>Organization: </b><br>Liberty Furniture*<br><br><font size="1">*"a North Carolina based company with Mid-South ties to Cromcraft - a furniture warehouse in Tate County", Mississippi.&nbsp; According to the report, Liberty Furniture may have gone out of business more than 20 years ago.</font><br><br><b>Contractor/Consultant/Branch:</b><br>Unknown<br><br><b>Victims:</b><br>Former employees<br><br><b>Number Affected:</b><br>"hundreds, maybe even thousands of people"<br><br><b>Types of Data:</b><br>Personal information including W-2 forms and tax forms containing names, addresses, and Social Security numbers<br><br><b>Breach Description:</b><br>"Eyewitness News Everywhere Uncovers the personal information of hundreds, maybe even thousands of people - dumped along a Mid-South road."<br><br><b>Reference URL:</b><br><a href="http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=1601248c-3496-44ad-a2a3-053a779e9edf">Eyewitness News Everywhere</a> <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Report Credit:</span><br>Kevin Holmes, Eyewitness News Everywhere<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Response:</span><br>From the online source cited above:<br><br>Eyewitness News Everywhere Uncovers the personal information of hundreds, maybe even thousands of people - dumped along a Mid-South road.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] For those readers who may be unsure where this "Mid-South" is located, in this case it is Mississippi.</span><br><br>We even found W-2 forms, tax forms with people's names, addresses and social security numbers.<br><br>Investigators in Tate County are trying to figure out how the papers got there.<br><br>Larry Davis made the discovery.<br><br>He says he was driving into town when he came across thousands of forms.<br><br>"That's just uncalled for...you are entrusting these people with a lot of information that could ruin you very quickly, but yet they treat it like it's trash," said Davis.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] I think most people share Mr. Davis' feelings.&nbsp; It is puzzling.&nbsp; What was the person who dumped the information on the side of the road thinking, supposing the the person was thinking and supposing the information was dumped and not lost (i.e. fell off a truck).</span><br><br>Financial records, shipping order forms, and W-2's of former employees<br><br>"Stupidity on the person that threw it out on the road.&nbsp; The people who disposed of these, there should be some legal action against them, but to me that's mismanagement," said Davis.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Again, I think many people share the same feelings as Mr. Davis.</span><br><br>Many of the records are from Liberty Furniture, a North Carolina based company with Mid-South ties to Cromcraft - a furniture warehouse in Tate County<br><br>"There all from North Carolina, how did they get here?&nbsp; This is Mississippi.&nbsp; We got some strong wind, but they ain't that strong," says Davis. <br><br>Even Cromcraft employees were shocked when we brought this to their attention. <br><br>Most of the W-2's are from the late 1970's and early 80's.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] Wow!&nbsp; These W-2's are 20-30+ years old?!</span><br><br>we're told Liberty Furniture went out of business more than twenty years ago.<br><br>Larry Davis' daughter Susan Herron said, "This could be someone's grandparents on fixed income, now their social security number is floating around somewhere and it's awful, people need to be more careful."<br><br>Eyewitness News Everywhere caught up with one of the former employees whose personal information was exposed. <br><br>"My initial feeling was a very sinking, horrified, scared, feeling....You feel vulnerable and hope your social security number hasn't fallen into the wrong hands.&nbsp; So I have to be diligent in checking my credit report," said the employee.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] It is interesting to read how a person feels when they learn that their personal information has been compromised.&nbsp; I feel bad for these people.&nbsp; This employee doesn't need to feel "horrified and scared", but he/she does nonetheless, and it's all due to negligence.&nbsp; This is just one reason why information security is so personal to me.</span><br><br>Other former Liberty Furniture employees tell Eyewitness News Everywhere they will be doing the same thing - checking their credit report.<br><br>Eyewitness News Everywhere will keep those forms in a secure place until we hand them over to the proper authorities.<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commentary:</span><br>There is a lot of mystery surrounding this breach.&nbsp; How did the information get there?&nbsp; Why was the information still kept?&nbsp; Who was in possession of the information before it was found on the side of the road?&nbsp; Why wasn't the information already destroyed if the company who was responsible for it is no longer in business?<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Past Breaches:</span><br>Unknown<br></font><br><br>
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      <title><![CDATA[Everybody wants to jump on the Green bandwagon]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/f28ccda0d1bb4517dd2497cfbebe058a</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[These days every one wants to be seen as green. Larry Seltzer over on PC Mag has an interesting story from McAfee Avert Labs that using anti-virus on your computer is green. The reasoning goes that by...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=430,height=429,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/20/greeningburn.jpg"><img title="Greeningburn" height="299" alt="Greeningburn" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/20/greeningburn.jpg" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" /></a>These days every one wants to be seen as green.&nbsp; Larry Seltzer over on <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2320511,00.asp">PC Mag has an interesting story</a> from <a class="zem_slink" title="McAfee Stinger" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAfee_Stinger" rel="wikipedia">McAfee</a> Avert Labs that using anti-virus on your computer is green. The reasoning goes that by keeping your computer free of malware, your CPU usage stays lower, thereby using less energy and lowering your carbon footprint.&nbsp; OK, I get it.&nbsp; My question is what about all of the extra CPU cycles that some of the bloated endpoint security suites use on all of these machines they are installed on.&nbsp; I would bet that they far outweigh any energy savings from clean machines.&nbsp; </p>

<p>I guess in place of wrapping yourself in the flag, the thing to do now is wrap yourself in the green thing. How long will it be until some company hires Al Gore to hawk thier technology. In the meantime I would beware of Jolly Green Giants.</p>

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      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Everybody wants to jump on the Green bandwagon]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/ab0ef7f9ede09527616db22e9923531f</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[These days every one wants to be seen as green. Larry Seltzer over on PC Mag has an interesting story from McAfee Avert Labs that using anti-virus on your computer is green. The reasoning goes that by...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=430,height=429,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/20/greeningburn.jpg"><img title="Greeningburn" height="299" alt="Greeningburn" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/20/greeningburn.jpg" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" /></a>These days every one wants to be seen as green.&nbsp; Larry Seltzer over on <a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,2320511,00.asp">PC Mag has an interesting story</a> from <a class="zem_slink" title="McAfee Stinger" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McAfee_Stinger" rel="wikipedia">McAfee</a> Avert Labs that using anti-virus on your computer is green. The reasoning goes that by keeping your computer free of malware, your CPU usage stays lower, thereby using less energy and lowering your carbon footprint.&nbsp; OK, I get it.&nbsp; My question is what about all of the extra CPU cycles that some of the bloated endpoint security suites use on all of these machines they are installed on.&nbsp; I would bet that they far outweigh any energy savings from clean machines.&nbsp; </p>

<p>I guess in place of wrapping yourself in the flag, the thing to do now is wrap yourself in the green thing. How long will it be until some company hires Al Gore to hawk thier technology. In the meantime I would beware of Jolly Green Giants.</p>

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      <title><![CDATA[Monday Potpourri]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[There are some days where nothing strikes me as interesting enough to blog. Than there are days like today where there are just too many things that I find compelling enough to comment on. So rather...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>There are some days where nothing strikes me as interesting enough to blog.&nbsp; Than there are days like today where there are just too many things that I find compelling enough to comment on.&nbsp; So rather than do 4 or 5 posts today, let me condense all of this goodness (I hope) into one post:</p>

<p>1. <a class="zem_slink" title="Sophos" href="http://www.sophos.com/" rel="homepage">Sophos</a> releases &quot;<a href="http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20080609005331&amp;newsLang=en">financial results ahead of analysts expectations</a>&quot;. While I applaud the Sophos folks for making public their revenue numbers (at least gross, net and deferred totals it seems), I am not sure what analysts they are talking about.&nbsp; As a private company, it is not like people are trading their stock and the financial analyst crowd is putting their numbers on the street.&nbsp; 200+m is a lot of revenue, even for an AV company and 40+m to the bottom line is impressive, but until you are public, no one is holding your feet to the fire and analyst coverage is just not the same.</p>

<p><span style="color: #0033cc;">Authors note: <strong>Dr. Jan Hruska</strong>, co-founder of Sophos wrote me off line and gave me permission to publish this comment: </span><span style="font-size: 0.8em;"></span>2. <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9046&amp;tag=nl.e539">Apple is ready to enter the platform war</a> - Larry Dignan over at ZDNet has some good comments and stats on Apple vying with Microsoft and Linux/open source to be &quot;the platform&quot; of the future. I agree that the <a class="zem_slink" title="IPhone" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone" rel="wikipedia">iPhone</a> and <a class="zem_slink" title="IPod" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod" rel="wikipedia">iPod</a> are Trojan Horses into the enterprise and along with the <a class="zem_slink" title="Macintosh" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh" rel="wikipedia">Mac</a> represent a viable platform that could compete with Microsoft and the Linux/open source crowd.&nbsp; However, I don't think you can judge how many developers are developing Mac/iPhone apps based on the crowd at the upcoming WWDC (worldwide developer conference).&nbsp; <a class="zem_slink" title="Steve Jobs" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA" rel="youtube">Steve Jobs</a> is a master showman and I think these conferences have become media events.&nbsp; Many people are there to to twitter and report and to &quot;be there&quot;.</p>

<p><span style="color: #0033cc;"><strong>In October last year we prepared for a float on the London Stock Exchange. As a part of the exercise we had analysts from the three sponsor banks produce their projections for revenue etc for the next three years. We did better that their projections for 2007/08.</strong></span></p>



<p>Larry is right though that Apple has to balance being too iPhone and iPod crazy at the risk of ignoring the &quot;real&quot; platform here the Mac.&nbsp; His example about PGP developing a Mac version is a great point.&nbsp; I have heard many other security companies likewise bringing Mac versions to market. This graphic I think shows the point well:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/09/pgp_mac.png"><img title="Pgp_mac" height="216" alt="Pgp_mac" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/09/pgp_mac.png" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" /></a>&nbsp; But my ultimate point on this one is that the ultimate platform will be the web.&nbsp; What the underlying OS is for future web apps should be somewhat meaningless.&nbsp; The webtop platform would seem to me to be the platform going forward!</p>

<p>In any event the WWDC should be a lot of fun and I will be watching to see if any new reports come out.</p>

<p>3. <a href="http://www.techworld.com/mobility/news/index.cfm?newsid=101703&amp;email">Belden buys Trapeze</a> - Another independent WLAN provider gets bought. Doesn't seem like a great multiple, 133m on 2007 revenue of 56m.&nbsp; There are not many independent WLAN providers out there now.&nbsp; Meru Networks is probably the biggest of the bunch. You don't hear too many people saying that wireless is not here yet anymore.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/09/roi.jpg"><img title="Roi" height="95" alt="Roi" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/09/roi.jpg" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 5px 5px" /></a> 4. <a href="http://www.mcafee.com/us/enterprise/products/tools/ad/roi/">McAfee still chasing the dragon on security ROI</a> - McAfee announced that using the Forrester Economic Impact Calculator you can now easily find out your ROI from buying a McAfee product. They have a very nice diagram that I have pasted in here. They ask you to plug in a few numbers about type of security you want, desktops, laptops and servers and presto - they give you an ROI.&nbsp; I didn't call them to get the scoop, but it really underwhelmed me.&nbsp; Looks like smoke and mirrors to me, just like many of these security ROIs do.</p>

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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>There are some days where nothing strikes me as interesting enough to blog.&nbsp; Than there are days like today where there are just too many things that I find compelling enough to comment on.&nbsp; So rather than do 4 or 5 posts today, let me condense all of this goodness (I hope) into one post:</p>

<p>1. <a class="zem_slink" title="Sophos" href="http://www.sophos.com/" rel="homepage">Sophos</a> releases &quot;<a href="http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&amp;newsId=20080609005331&amp;newsLang=en">financial results ahead of analysts expectations</a>&quot;. While I applaud the Sophos folks for making public their revenue numbers (at least gross, net and deferred totals it seems), I am not sure what analysts they are talking about.&nbsp; As a private company, it is not like people are trading their stock and the financial analyst crowd is putting their numbers on the street.&nbsp; 200+m is a lot of revenue, even for an AV company and 40+m to the bottom line is impressive, but until you are public, no one is holding your feet to the fire and analyst coverage is just not the same.</p>

<p>2. <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9046&amp;tag=nl.e539">Apple is ready to enter the platform war</a> - Larry Dignan over at ZDNet has some good comments and stats on Apple vying with Microsoft and Linux/open source to be &quot;the platform&quot; of the future. I agree that the <a class="zem_slink" title="IPhone" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone" rel="wikipedia">iPhone</a> and <a class="zem_slink" title="IPod" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod" rel="wikipedia">iPod</a> are Trojan Horses into the enterprise and along with the <a class="zem_slink" title="Macintosh" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh" rel="wikipedia">Mac</a> represent a viable platform that could compete with Microsoft and the Linux/open source crowd.&nbsp; However, I don't think you can judge how many developers are developing Mac/iPhone apps based on the crowd at the upcoming WWDC (worldwide developer conference).&nbsp; <a class="zem_slink" title="Steve Jobs" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA" rel="youtube">Steve Jobs</a> is a master showman and I think these conferences have become media events.&nbsp; Many people are there to to twitter and report and to &quot;be there&quot;.</p>

<p>Larry is right though that Apple has to balance being too iPhone and iPod crazy at the risk of ignoring the &quot;real&quot; platform here the Mac.&nbsp; His example about PGP developing a Mac version is a great point.&nbsp; I have heard many other security companies likewise bringing Mac versions to market. This graphic I think shows the point well:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/09/pgp_mac.png"><img title="Pgp_mac" height="216" alt="Pgp_mac" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/09/pgp_mac.png" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" /></a>&nbsp; But my ultimate point on this one is that the ultimate platform will be the web.&nbsp; What the underlying OS is for future web apps should be somewhat meaningless.&nbsp; The webtop platform would seem to me to be the platform going forward!</p>

<p>In any event the WWDC should be a lot of fun and I will be watching to see if any new reports come out.</p>

<p>3. <a href="http://www.techworld.com/mobility/news/index.cfm?newsid=101703&amp;email">Belden buys Trapeze</a> - Another independent WLAN provider gets bought. Doesn't seem like a great multiple, 133m on 2007 revenue of 56m.&nbsp; There are not many independent WLAN providers out there now.&nbsp; Meru Networks is probably the biggest of the bunch. You don't hear too many people saying that wireless is not here yet anymore.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/09/roi.jpg"><img title="Roi" height="95" alt="Roi" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/09/roi.jpg" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 5px 5px" /></a> 4. <a href="http://www.mcafee.com/us/enterprise/products/tools/ad/roi/">McAfee still chasing the dragon on security ROI</a> - McAfee announced that using the Forrester Economic Impact Calculator you can now easily find out your ROI from buying a McAfee product. They have a very nice diagram that I have pasted in here. They ask you to plug in a few numbers about type of security you want, desktops, laptops and servers and presto - they give you an ROI.&nbsp; I didn't call them to get the scoop, but it really underwhelmed me.&nbsp; Looks like smoke and mirrors to me, just like many of these security ROIs do.</p>

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      <title><![CDATA[Marines Land in Afghanistan -- with Biometrics]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[A year ago this June, Taliban fighters streamed into the remote town of Chora in southern Afghanistan expecting an easy victory over impoverished villagers. Instead, they met heavy resistance from...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A year ago this June, Taliban fighters streamed into the remote town of Chora in southern Afghanistan expecting an easy victory over impoverished villagers. Instead, they met heavy resistance from scores of uniformed Afghan men.</p>

<p>Those so-called Afghan National Auxiliary Police (ANAP), all formerly in the service of local warlords, had received two months of training by Dutch and American soldiers and were now the first line of defense against the Taliban.</p>

<p>Arming tribesmen was a risky idea. True, this sort of tribal initiative had been effective in Iraq. But NATO commanders feared that Afghan loyalties to their warlords ran too deep. NATO was “arming people who were not necessarily in line with the [Afghan] government,” U.S. Brig. Gen. Robert Cone told Wired.com.</p>

<p>So, last month, NATO fired the auxiliary cops and scrapped the tribal strategy, leaving gaping holes in Afghanistan's defenses. The fix? Marines, of course, armed with fingerprint pads, iris scanners and electronic databases.</p>

<p>With these biometric tools, the Marines are planning to recruit new cops who have no ties to tribal warlords. “We know there are some shadow police and some militia-type police,” Lt. Col. Ray Hall, the Marine commander, said. “Once we go through the vetting process, we'll have everybody screened … so that problem should go away.”</p>


<p>That means scanning every new recruit's unique iris “eye prints,” logging their thumb prints and feeding it all into a growing, but still very spotty, national database linked to criminal and intelligence records. If a cop has any known warlord ties, he's disqualified from serving.</p>


<p>CIA teams used FBI biometrics while hunting for known Al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan in 2001, and since then, the military has gathered data on almost every Afghan it comes in regular contact with.</p>

<p>There's one more problem. Not all the military databases can talk to one another. “We haven't standardized,” said Larry Schneider, a Northrop Grumman VP who last year was working on collapsing many biometrics systems into just one.</p>

<p>Until everyone is looking at the same data, seditious Afghan cops will probably keep falling through the cracks. </p><br style="clear: both;"/>
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      <description><![CDATA[No not Larry Ellison. StillSecure's oracle of NAC, Dave Greenstein, Chief Security Architect at StillSecure. I write and speak a lot about NAC, but Dave actually lives NAC. He led our development team...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>No not Larry Ellison. StillSecure's oracle of NAC, Dave Greenstein, Chief Security Architect at StillSecure. I write and speak a lot about NAC, but Dave actually lives NAC.&nbsp; He led our development team that developed Safe Access.&nbsp; Now he is way out in front researching and designing the next generations of Safe Access and our other products.&nbsp; Dave doesn't comment on my posts a lot. I am always bugging him to start his own blog.&nbsp; The best I get is occasionally he will write an article or white paper.&nbsp; So when he commented on Joel Snyder's article on NAC and my comments, I figured it would make sense to give it some main column play.&nbsp; Here is what Dave had to say:</p> <blockquote> <p><em>In order to use NAP you only need server 2008 for the NPS... Your domain and AD can still be 2003 so I think adoption of NAP will be faster for that reason. Also, XP SP3, which has NAP capabilities, adoption should be pretty fast compared to Vista. </em> <p><em>On ACLs, I agree with Joel that ACLs are a great way to do things... But not with routers and DHCP enforcement. If you have HP switches or Extreme Switches then you can do dynamic ACLs per port. Similar to how you assign a VLAN via RADIUS attributes, you can assign ACLs for that port in addition to assigning a VLAN. This is great if you have the right switches. It helps protect the other endpoints within a quarantine VLAN and adds an extra layer of security. Cisco switches do not have this capability unless you’re running Cisco NAC and a Cisco ACS server (ugh). So, buy HP and Extreme switches! </em> <p><em>What’s more likely to slow NAP adoption down is it’s total lack of endpoint administration... How do you keep track of what endpoints have which problems? How do you get an endpoint on the network in an emergency even if it has an issue? How do you update the SHAs on your thousands of endpoints? There are a whole host of issues not solved by NAP that make it unusable. That’s where products like StillSecure Safe Access come in.</em></p></blockquote> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>BTW, if you think Dave makes some sense here and would like to hear more from him, let me know and I will coax him into writing some more! I should also add that I twisted his arm to give Safe Access a plug at the end there. Thanks Dave!</p></div>

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      <title><![CDATA[Blue Box #78: Cisco IP phone vulnerabilties, WiFi handset insecurity, IETF security-related news, VoIP security news, listener comments and more]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Synopsis: Blue Box #78: Cisco IP phone vulnerabilties, WiFi handset insecurity, IETF security-related news, VoIP security news, listener comments and more
Welcome to Blue Box: The VoIP Security...]]></description>
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<p><strong>Synopsis:</strong>&nbsp; Blue Box #78: Cisco IP phone vulnerabilties, WiFi handset insecurity, IETF security-related news, VoIP security news, listener comments and more</p><hr /><p>Welcome to <strong>Blue Box: The VoIP Security Podcast</strong> #78, a 40-minute podcast&nbsp; from Dan York and Jonathan Zar covering VoIP security news, comments and opinions.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p>

<p><a rel="enclosure" href="http://media.libsyn.com/media/lodestar/BBP-078-2008-02-25.mp3">Download the show here</a> (MP3, 17MB) or <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/BlueBox">subscribe to the RSS feed</a> to download the show automatically.&nbsp; </p>

<p><strong>NOTE: </strong><em>This show was originally recorded on February 25, 2008. Yes, that was two months ago... we know!</em></p> 

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<ul> <li>00:20 - Intro to the show, contact information and how to provide comments.&nbsp; Welcome to all the new listeners - and to all those listeners who have been here for so long!&nbsp; </li>

<li><a href="http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/2007/12/new-audio-comme.html">new comment line +1-415-830-5439</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/2008/02/blue-box-se023.html">Special Edition #23</a> with Sonus Networks</li>
	<li><a href="http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/25/squawk-box-february-25-the-voice-phishing-call/">Squawk Box podcast about voice phishing</a> ??? also this article <a href="http://www.bmighty.com/security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206800660">Vishing: The Latest, and Greatest, Security Concern</a></li>
<li>Cisco: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20080213-phone.shtml">Cisco Unified <span class="caps">IP </span>Phone Overflow and DoS Vulnerabilities</a> and <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/14/ciscos-slew-of-vulnerabilities/">Dustin Trammell???s coverage</a></li>
		<li>ZDNet: <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=896">Design flaw in wireless VoIP handsets endanger the enterprise</a> followed by <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=901">Cisco confirms vulnerability in 7921 WiFi IP phone</a></li>
<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/20/slides-about-peer-to-peer-sip-p2psip-security-now-available/">Slides about <span class="caps">P2PSIP</span> security new available</a></li>
		<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/15/join-the-new-rucus-mailing-list-if-you-want-to-look-at-ways-to-end-spit/">RUCUS mailing list &amp; <span class="caps">BOF</span></a></li>
		<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/11/end-to-end-voip-security-using-dtls-srtp-a-new-proposal/">End-to-end VoIP security using <span class="caps">DTLS</span>-SRTP</a></li>
		<li>Also a whole bunch on <span class="caps">SIP </span>Identity</li>
		<li><a href="http://blogs.voxeo.com/speakingofstandards/2008/02/12/sip-torture-tests-for-ipv6-now-out-in-rfc-5118/">SIP Torture Tests for IPv6 now out in <span class="caps">RFC 5118</span></a></li>
		<li><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/rfcmarkup?doc=draft-york-spit-similarity-scenarios">SIP Usage Scenarios Similar to <span class="caps">SPIT</span></a></li>
		<li><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-niccolini-speermint-voipthreats-03.txt">SPEERMINT Security BCPs</a></li>
		<li><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/rfcmarkup?doc=draft-kaplan-sip-baiting-attack">SIP Identity Baiting Attack</a></li>
		<li><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-rfc4474-concerns-00.txt">Concerns around Applicability of <span class="caps">RFC 4474</span></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/101/488311/30/30/threaded">VoIP Hopper 0.9.9 released</a> (<a href="http://voiphopper.sourceforge.net/">site</a> ) ??? Thanks to Frank Leonhardt for the info.</li>
		<li>VoIP News: <a href="http://www.voip-news.com/feature/is-someone-listening-022208/">Is Someone Listening to Your VoIP Calls?</a> (linked to from <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=3294">ZDNet</a> )</li>
		<li>ZDNet: <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=895">Cracking <span class="caps">GSM</span></a></li>
		<li>TMCnet- <a href="http://internetcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/sip/articles/21394-ocs-exposed-practicing-safe-ocs.htm">Practicing Safe <span class="caps">OCS</span></a></li>
		<li>TMCnet- <a href="http://sip.tmcnet.com/topics/sip-and-open-standards/articles/21397-security-attack-the-day.htm">Security Attack of the Day</a> (Tom Cross starts blogging for TMCnet)</li>
		<li>Speaking of Tom, <a href="http://sip.tmcnet.com/topics/featured-articles/articles/21137-techtionarycom-releases-sip-security-checklist.htm">Techtionary.com Releases <span class="caps">SIP </span>Security Checklist</a></li>
	<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/21/siptap-author-forms-voip-security-company/">SIPTap Author forms VoIP Security Company</a> (by Craig Bowser!)</li>
		<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/21/underpowered-hardware/">Underpowered Hardware</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://www.projectspider.org/">Project Spider</a> ??? about <span class="caps">SPIT</span></li>
	<li><span class="caps">CBC</span>: <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/02/12/bell.html?ref=rss">Bell recovers stolen data on 3.4 million customers</a></li>
<li>Comment (email) from Larry Farmer</li>
		<li>Comment (email) from Shlomo Dubrowin</li>
		<li>Comment (email) about <span class="caps">SE </span>#23</li>
<li>Review of the last week's traffic on the <a href="http://www.voipsa.org/VOIPSEC/">VOIPSEC </a>public mailing list&nbsp; </li>
<li>Wrap-up of the show </li>
<li>40:01 - End of show&nbsp; </li></ul> <p>Comments, suggestions and feedback are welcome either as replies to this post&nbsp; or via e-mail to <a href="mailto:blueboxpodcast@gmail.com">blueboxpodcast@gmail.com</a>.&nbsp; Audio comments sent as attached MP3 files are definitely welcome and will be played in future shows.&nbsp; You may also call the listener comment line at either +1-415-830-5439 or via SIP to '<a href="sip:bluebox@voipuser.org">bluebox@voipuser.org</a>' to leave a comment there.&nbsp; </p> <p>Thank you for listening and please do let us know what you think of the show. </p></div>
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<p><strong>Synopsis:</strong>&nbsp; Blue Box #78: Cisco IP phone vulnerabilties, WiFi handset insecurity, IETF security-related news, VoIP security news, listener comments and more</p><hr /><p>Welcome to <strong>Blue Box: The VoIP Security Podcast</strong> #78, a 40-minute podcast&nbsp; from Dan York and Jonathan Zar covering VoIP security news, comments and opinions.&nbsp; &nbsp; </p>

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<p><strong>NOTE: </strong><em>This show was originally recorded on February 25, 2008. Yes, that was two months ago... we know!</em></p> 

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<ul> <li>00:20 - Intro to the show, contact information and how to provide comments.&nbsp; Welcome to all the new listeners - and to all those listeners who have been here for so long!&nbsp; </li>

<li><a href="http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/2007/12/new-audio-comme.html">new comment line +1-415-830-5439</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://www.blueboxpodcast.com/2008/02/blue-box-se023.html">Special Edition #23</a> with Sonus Networks</li>
	<li><a href="http://saunderslog.com/2008/02/25/squawk-box-february-25-the-voice-phishing-call/">Squawk Box podcast about voice phishing</a> – also this article <a href="http://www.bmighty.com/security/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206800660">Vishing: The Latest, and Greatest, Security Concern</a></li>
<li>Cisco: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20080213-phone.shtml">Cisco Unified <span class="caps">IP </span>Phone Overflow and DoS Vulnerabilities</a> and <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/14/ciscos-slew-of-vulnerabilities/">Dustin Trammell’s coverage</a></li>
		<li>ZDNet: <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=896">Design flaw in wireless VoIP handsets endanger the enterprise</a> followed by <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=901">Cisco confirms vulnerability in 7921 WiFi IP phone</a></li>
<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/20/slides-about-peer-to-peer-sip-p2psip-security-now-available/">Slides about <span class="caps">P2PSIP</span> security new available</a></li>
		<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/15/join-the-new-rucus-mailing-list-if-you-want-to-look-at-ways-to-end-spit/">RUCUS mailing list &amp; <span class="caps">BOF</span></a></li>
		<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/11/end-to-end-voip-security-using-dtls-srtp-a-new-proposal/">End-to-end VoIP security using <span class="caps">DTLS</span>-SRTP</a></li>
		<li>Also a whole bunch on <span class="caps">SIP </span>Identity</li>
		<li><a href="http://blogs.voxeo.com/speakingofstandards/2008/02/12/sip-torture-tests-for-ipv6-now-out-in-rfc-5118/">SIP Torture Tests for IPv6 now out in <span class="caps">RFC 5118</span></a></li>
		<li><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/rfcmarkup?doc=draft-york-spit-similarity-scenarios">SIP Usage Scenarios Similar to <span class="caps">SPIT</span></a></li>
		<li><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-niccolini-speermint-voipthreats-03.txt">SPEERMINT Security BCPs</a></li>
		<li><a href="http://tools.ietf.org/rfcmarkup?doc=draft-kaplan-sip-baiting-attack">SIP Identity Baiting Attack</a></li>
		<li><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-rosenberg-sip-rfc4474-concerns-00.txt">Concerns around Applicability of <span class="caps">RFC 4474</span></a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/101/488311/30/30/threaded">VoIP Hopper 0.9.9 released</a> (<a href="http://voiphopper.sourceforge.net/">site</a> ) – Thanks to Frank Leonhardt for the info.</li>
		<li>VoIP News: <a href="http://www.voip-news.com/feature/is-someone-listening-022208/">Is Someone Listening to Your VoIP Calls?</a> (linked to from <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=3294">ZDNet</a> )</li>
		<li>ZDNet: <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=895">Cracking <span class="caps">GSM</span></a></li>
		<li>TMCnet- <a href="http://internetcommunications.tmcnet.com/topics/sip/articles/21394-ocs-exposed-practicing-safe-ocs.htm">Practicing Safe <span class="caps">OCS</span></a></li>
		<li>TMCnet- <a href="http://sip.tmcnet.com/topics/sip-and-open-standards/articles/21397-security-attack-the-day.htm">Security Attack of the Day</a> (Tom Cross starts blogging for TMCnet)</li>
		<li>Speaking of Tom, <a href="http://sip.tmcnet.com/topics/featured-articles/articles/21137-techtionarycom-releases-sip-security-checklist.htm">Techtionary.com Releases <span class="caps">SIP </span>Security Checklist</a></li>
	<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/21/siptap-author-forms-voip-security-company/">SIPTap Author forms VoIP Security Company</a> (by Craig Bowser!)</li>
		<li>Voice of <span class="caps">VOIPSA</span>: <a href="http://voipsa.org/blog/2008/02/21/underpowered-hardware/">Underpowered Hardware</a></li>
	<li><a href="http://www.projectspider.org/">Project Spider</a> – about <span class="caps">SPIT</span></li>
	<li><span class="caps">CBC</span>: <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/02/12/bell.html?ref=rss">Bell recovers stolen data on 3.4 million customers</a></li>
<li>Comment (email) from Larry Farmer</li>
		<li>Comment (email) from Shlomo Dubrowin</li>
		<li>Comment (email) about <span class="caps">SE </span>#23</li>
<li>Review of the last week's traffic on the <a href="http://www.voipsa.org/VOIPSEC/">VOIPSEC </a>public mailing list&nbsp; </li>
<li>Wrap-up of the show </li>
<li>40:01 - End of show&nbsp; </li></ul> <p>Comments, suggestions and feedback are welcome either as replies to this post&nbsp; or via e-mail to <a href="mailto:blueboxpodcast@gmail.com">blueboxpodcast@gmail.com</a>.&nbsp; Audio comments sent as attached MP3 files are definitely welcome and will be played in future shows.&nbsp; You may also call the listener comment line at either +1-415-830-5439 or via SIP to '<a href="sip:bluebox@voipuser.org">bluebox@voipuser.org</a>' to leave a comment there.&nbsp; </p> <p>Thank you for listening and please do let us know what you think of the show. </p></div>

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