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      <title><![CDATA[Links for 2008-07-03 [del.icio.us]]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[The Daily Incite - July 3, 2008 | Security Incite: Analysis on Information Security
Where the truth is: Logs and breach-disclosure laws
The Security Catalyst Community - CISSP - on it's way out, or...]]></description>
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<li><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9104578&source=rss_topic82">Where the truth is: Logs and breach-disclosure laws</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.securitycatalyst.org/forums/index.php?topic=905.0">The Security Catalyst Community - CISSP - on it's way out, or not. Or both?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/06/visualization-t.html">Rational Survivability: Visualization Through Virtualization...</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.security-works.com/blog/2008/06/so-now-everyone-is-it-grc-vendor.html">practical risk management: So now everyone is an IT GRC vendor</a></li>
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      <title><![CDATA[Misc Reading Related To Verizon Breach Report]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[All sort of fun stuff was unearthed, discussed and - sometimes - made-up upon reading the Verizon Security Breach Investigations report. Here are some things from the pile which I found fun
Report...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All sort of fun stuff was unearthed, discussed and - sometimes -&nbsp; made-up upon reading the Verizon Security Breach Investigations report. Here are some things from the pile which I found fun:</p> <ul> <li><a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/databreachreport.pdf">Report itself [PDF]</a> and <a href="http://securityblog.verizonbusiness.com/2008/06/10/2008-data-breach-investigations-report/">brief on it</a> from Verizon (and two fun follow-ups, <a href="http://securityblog.verizonbusiness.com/2008/06/19/reasonable-controls/">this</a> and <a href="http://securityblog.verizonbusiness.com/2008/06/13/patching-conundrum/">this here</a>)</li> <li>"<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1322">90% of all statistics can be made to say anything… 50% of the time, aka my thoughts on the Verizon report</a>"</li> <li>"<a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/data-breach-pos.html">Data Breach Post Mortem Offers Surprises</a>" (well, to some people, they are surprises ...)</li> <li>"<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/147098/insider_threat_exaggerated_study_says_.html">Insider Threat Exaggerated, Study Says</a>" (not, it doesn't, BTW)</li> <li>"<a href="http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2008/06/verizon-business-report-speaks-volumes.html">Verizon Business Report Speaks Volumes</a>" (from Richard, thus a MUST read)</li></ul> <p>And of course, here is my favorite part: "<em>In 82 percent of cases, our investigators noted that <strong>the victim possessed the ability to discover the breach had they had they been more diligent in monitoring and analyzing event-related information</strong> [AC - i.e. logs] available to them at the time of the incident." </em>and this&nbsp; "Furthermore, <strong>a crime scene devoid of any network and system logs</strong>, a key resource for computer forensics, is <strong>a disturbingly common occurrence</strong>."</p> <p>What can I say? Back to battle stations for me - to fight the war of making logs more popular! :-)</p>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 10:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[On Logs and Breach Disclosure Laws]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/3ad2d8b27336bd882920155941a59db4</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Check out my fun paper called &quot; Where the truth is: Logs and breach-disclosure laws &quot; at ComputerWorld. I personally find the premise that logs help with breach notification mandates to be a perfect...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Check out my fun paper called "<a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9104578&amp;source=rss_topic82">Where the truth is: Logs and breach-disclosure laws</a>" at ComputerWorld. I personally find the premise that logs help with breach notification mandates to be a perfect no-brainer, but it looks like some people consider it to be deep insight.<br /><br />And, let's leave it at that: deep insight <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;articleId=9104578&amp;source=rss_topic82">it is :-)</a><br /><br />Key point for the impatient bunch: "... logs are essential for compliance with breach-notification laws because you know who <span style="font-style: italic;">exactly </span>to notify. Proper log-keeping will save massive amounts of money while complying with both the letter and the spirit of this law."<div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AntonChuvakinPersonalBlog/~3/326103726/on-logs-and-breach-disclosure-laws.html">On Logs and Breach Disclosure Laws</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Browser Insecurity]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/91edde737eae16c632b409b1ec1a9d10</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[This excellent paper measures insecurity in the global population of browsers, using Google's web server logs. Why is this important? Because browsers are an increasingly popular attack vector. The...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[This <a href="http://www.techzoom.net/publications/insecurity-iceberg/index.en">excellent paper</a> measures insecurity in the global population of browsers, using Google's web server logs.  Why is this important?  Because browsers are an increasingly popular attack vector.

The results aren't good.

<blockquote>...at least 45.2%, or 637 million users, were not using the most secure Web browser version on any working day from January 2007 to June 2008. These browsers are an easy target for drive-by download attacks as they are potentially vulnerable to known exploits.</blockquote>

That number breaks down as 577 million users of Internet Explorer, 38 million of Firefox, 17 million of Safari, and 5 million of Opera.  Lots more detail in the paper, including some ideas for technical solutions.

EDITED TO ADD (7/2):  More <a href="http://www.ofcourseimright.com/?p=29">commentary</a>.<div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[Using ClusDiag for enhanced Windows server cluster reporting]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/a70b9f7d2feb27e394afe9dcfff6e12f</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Learn to use some of the reporting capabilities of ClusDiag, Microsoft's free tool for Windows server cluster management, with details on how to capture logs and view cluster...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Learn to use some of the reporting capabilities of ClusDiag, Microsoft's free tool for Windows server cluster management, with details on how to capture logs and view cluster reports.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhatisEnterpriseItTipsAndExpertAdvice/~4/325936991" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhatisEnterpriseItTipsAndExpertAdvice/~3/325936991/0,289483,sid68_gci1319959,00.html">Using ClusDiag for enhanced Windows server cluster reporting</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Monthly Blog Round-Up - June 2008]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/6bb7f76a5056f7584446e3423f3defba</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I saw this idea of a monthly blog round-up and I liked it. In general, blogs are a bit &quot;stateless&quot; and a lot of good content gets lost since many people, sadly, only pay attention to what they see...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this idea of a monthly blog round-up and I liked it. In general, blogs are a bit "stateless" and a lot of good content gets lost since many people, sadly, only pay attention to what they see <em>today</em>. This is what is driving an idiotic campaign of such "news" as "hackers increase hacking", "compliance is hard/easy/matters/doesn't" or "awareness of virtualization/SaaS/hacking/compliance grows."</p> <p>So, here is my next <strong>monthly <a href="chuvakin.blogspot.com/">"Security Warrior" blog</a> </strong>round-up of top 5 popular posts and topics.</p> <ol> <li>Again this month, <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/poll">my logging polls</a> took the #1 spot!&nbsp; <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/05/poll-8-log-analysis-context.html">Poll #8</a> that covered context data for log analysis <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/logging-poll-8-analysis-needed-log.html">is analyzed here</a>. Other popular polls include a controversial <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/04/windows-log-collection-poll-analysis.html">Windows Log Collection Poll</a></u> (which is <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/04/windows-log-collection-poll-analysis.html">a poll #7</a></u>)&nbsp; and <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/03/logging-poll-6-logs-do-you-look-at.html">poll #6</a></u> about logs that people actually look and <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/02/logging-poll-5-logging-challenges.html">poll #5</a> about logging challenges. Next poll is coming soon. <li>Not entirely surprising, my post/rant called "<a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/you-are-security-idiot-if.html">You Are "A Security Idiot" If ...</a>" takes the #2 spot after being live for only a few days. Yes, we all like to point out other people's problems, especially when they are epically huge :-) <li>Also not surprisingly, my post "<a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/11-signs-that-your-siem-is-dog-or-you.html">11 Signs That Your SIEM Is A Dog or "Raffy, You Killed SIM!"</a>" is on the Top list. It is both humorous and sadly true (and <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x.cgi?pagetosend=/export/home/httpd/htdocs/reviews/2008/063008-test-siem.html&amp;pagename=/reviews/2008/063008-test-siem.html&amp;pageurl=http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2008/063008-test-siem.html&amp;site=security">backed up by other sources</a>) <li>A curious subject of DLP or "data leak prevention" (specifically, the post called "<a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/so-can-we-have-dlp.html">So, CAN We Have DLP?</a>") also tops the charts. My previous post on data leak 'prevention' ("<a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/05/in-passing-on-dlp.html">In Passing on DLP</a>") is popular as well. <li>Again and again, people googling for "open source SIEM" have pushed this post (<a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/01/on-open-source-in-siem-and-log.html">this tiny old pathetic blurb</a>) to top5. This ancient post from years ago explains why an open source <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/SIEM">SIEM</a> will NOT emerge soon, if ever. </li></ol> <p>See you in July!</p> <p><strong>Possibly related posts / past monthly popular blog round-ups:</strong></p> <ul> <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/monthly-blog-round-up-may-2008.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - May 2008</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/05/monthly-blog-round-up-april-2008.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - April 2008</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/04/monthly-blog-round-up-march-2008.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - March 2008</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/03/monthly-blog-round-up-february-2008.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - February 2008</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/02/monthly-blog-round-up-january-2008.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - January 2008</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/01/monthly-blog-round-up-december-2007.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - December 2007</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/11/monthly-blog-round-up-november-2007.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - November 2007</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/11/monthly-blog-round-up-october-2007.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - October 2007</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/10/monthly-blog-round-up-september-2007.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - September 2007</a>  <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/08/monthly-blog-round-up-august-2007.html">Monthly Blog Round-Up - August 2007</a></li></ul> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p></p> <div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:7192e29b-e335-4630-8b0b-dc37806d54ee" style="padding-right: 0px; display: inline; padding-left: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-top: 0px">Technorati tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/blog" rel="tag">blog</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/security" rel="tag">security</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/loggings" rel="tag">loggings</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/monthly" rel="tag">monthly</a></div>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[Fun Reading on Logs and Log Management]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/e85ee9ea7645529bf3a4211d03fa5124</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I am amazed (no, AMAZED!) about how many people now write about logs; it is definitely not &quot;the original logging evangelist&quot; anymore :-) Here is a quick sample, useful for those struggling with logs...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed (no, AMAZED!) about how many people now write about logs; it is definitely not <a href="http://www.chuvakin.org/">"the original logging evangelist"</a> anymore :-) Here is a quick sample, useful for those struggling with logs (aka "everybody" :-))</p> <ol> <li>A very fun read from Patrick Mueller (ex-Neohapsis now turned lawyer): "<a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/compliance/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208400730&amp;subSection=All+Stories">Facing The Monster: The Labors Of Log Management</a>." I am happy that <a href="http://www.loglogic.com/">log management</a> has been finally granted a monster status :-)  </li><li>I am happy to see that one of the <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/supp/2008/ndc3/051908-cloud-storage-five-questions.html">"five questions to ask before sending your data in the cloud"</a> is "<b>Will I have access to logging and auditing data?</b>" This is indeed a big deal (well, it will be soon) and you will be hearing more about this. I call this "a case of log ransom," since you might need to pay the ransom to see what is "yours" - the logs  </li><li>Again on <a href="http://www.wwpi.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=3970&amp;Itemid=44">leaving [some]  logs behind</a>. Remember, the point is  not that "collecting all" is a good idea, it is that figuring what to pick is IMPOSSIBLE, while "collecting all" is <em>simply</em> very hard :-) </li><li>This is hot stuff: "<a href="http://www.prismmicrosys.com/Logtalk/?p=20">Ten reasons you will be unhappy with your SIM solution</a>" (no, I didn't write it :-), but <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/11-signs-that-your-siem-is-dog-or-you.html">this</a> is mine)  </li><li><a href="http://www.dimitrimckay.com/Loglogic/Blog/Entries/2008/5/28_HA_vs._Backups.html">Why HA for log management</a> from <a href="http://www.dimitrimckay.com/">our star engineer</a>. Those thinking about the reliability of their logging systems should read it.  </li><li><a href="http://philip.greenspun.com/wtr/dead-trees/53007.htm">Fun info</a> on web server log analysis for different purposes.  </li><li>"<a href="http://treasuryinstitute.org/blog/index.php?itemid=144">Why Logs and Logging Matters - Part 1</a>" and "<a href="http://treasuryinstitute.org/blog/index.php?itemid=147">Why Logs Matter - Part 2, A Letter</a>" present really good intro logging for compliance and other purposes (even specifically saying "<b>what you do</b> with the logs that matters.")  </li><li>"<a href="http://www.realtime-itcompliance.com/information_security/2008/04/smart_business_leaders_support.htm">Smart Business Leaders Support Effective Log Management Practices and Necessary Resources</a>" from Rebecca Herold is a nice basic piece, especially for those outside the circle of logging literati. </li><li>More from <a href="http://lcsmith.com/blog">Sanford </a>on logging standards: "<a href="http://lcsmith.com/blog/?p=9">Drawing Lines</a>", an awesome post indeed. </li><li><a href="http://www.networkworld.com/cgi-bin/mailto/x.cgi?pagetosend=/export/home/httpd/htdocs/reviews/2008/063008-test-siem.html&amp;pagename=/reviews/2008/063008-test-siem.html&amp;pageurl=http://www.networkworld.com/reviews/2008/063008-test-siem.html&amp;site=security">A MUST read on SIEM</a> and log management from Greg Shipley (I promise <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/06/11-signs-that-your-siem-is-dog-or-you.html">this</a> is a coincidence! :-)) In this piece, Mr Neohapsis drop kicks more than a few "latest generation" <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/SIEM">SIEM </a>tools. Guess which product review mentions "pain" 3 times  on one page :-) </li><li>Finally, this is also worth a read: "<a href="http://blogs.splunk.com/thebaum/2008/06/25/ode-to-log-management/">Ode to Log Management</a>" where Mr Baum laments logs being pigeonholed in to "another IT management tool" silo despite their broad relevance. He is right - but focusing on one use case after another works...<br /></li></ol> <p> Enjoy!</p><div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <description><![CDATA[Prerequisite: read this (thanks Raffy). Stop reading right before you reach the last line though :-) Then maybe read this too (thanks anonymous
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prerequisite: read <a href="http://blogs.splunk.com/raffy/2008/06/23/security-information-management-sim-is-dead">this</a> (thanks Raffy). Stop reading right before you reach the last line though :-)&nbsp; Then maybe <a href="http://www.prismmicrosys.com/Logtalk/?p=20">read this</a> too (thanks anonymous).</p> <p>Next, insert appropriate morbid jokes &lt;here&gt; for "<a href="http://www.gartner.com/5_about/press_releases/pr11june2003c.jsp">IDS is dead</a>", "<a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/27459">NAC is dead</a>", "<a href="http://securosis.com/2008/05/13/grc-is-dead/">GRC is dead</a>", everybody is dead... WTF? Are we at the cemetery or what? Is "dead" dead? Yeah, but it came back as a zombie :-) So, "dead" is a "living dead" "dead" now. Ha*3.</p> <p>Finally, think! Why were you thinking of buying a SIEM? 'Cause the big "G" in the sky said so? And while you are thinking, check these fun points out:</p> <ol> <li>Does your SIEM require 17 beefy servers to operate? How many gallons of foreign oil have to go up in smoke to power that mammoth up? And you know what happened to mammoths, don't you?  <li>If your "high-performance" SIEM appliance can only run 5 correlation rules at the same time, what "high" do they mean, really? Hold this thought....  <li>Is five field engineers, two developers and CTO enough to install it? Who else needs to help? Ah, sorry, I missed the DBA :-)  <li>Do you know when "If CustomVariable17 = Value5" condition matches? Will you still remember it in a year?  <li>Can you tell "taxonomy" from "ontology"? You can now? Good for you. Are you more secure now? More efficient? Compliant?  <li>How many shifts of security analysts do you have watching the shiny consoles 24/7? If zero, then why - oh - why those consoles are running in the first place? "If a tree falls..." - you know how this one ends. Correct! You get hit by the bough.  <li>When was the last time you built a custom agent for parsing and normalizing, say, SAP logs? Did it work? What did you do after it didn't? Cried? And did it help? Then a burly vendor SE showed up, charged you $37,600 and left? Happy now?  <li>Do you automatically correlate IDS/IPS alerts with vulnerability data ... for client-side attacks? Really? :-)  <li>There are dozens of firewall, IDS/IPS, router, etc brands, each with its own log type. This is actually simple! But there are thousands upon thousands of applications in use today. Some have logs. All are different. Care to build rules for that? Now you <em>finally</em> know why SIEM vendors <em>don't parse their own</em> Java logs (no shit!)  <li>Do you know what "threat x vulnerability x <em>random()</em>" equals to? Yup, it still equals <em>random()</em>. Automated prioritization, you say?  <li>Do you know why some SIEM vendors are migrating to IT GRC now? So they can go and die there ... quietly.</li></ol> <p>All in all, I have to <a href="http://blogs.splunk.com/raffy/2008/06/23/security-information-management-sim-is-dead/#comment-1332">agree with Raffy</a> to a large extent!&nbsp; The world has evolved - and SIEM has not. It might not be dead (as old attacks and defenses never really die and large organization still build and man massive SOCs where SIEM is "a must"), but in this age of web application hacking, CSRF and XSS, phishing, PCI DSS, massive bot armies, client-side 0-days, stealth malware, etc, paying $x,000,000 for a pile of ugly Java code is insane ... As a result, SIEM has greatly diminished in importance and has become just one small thing you might do with logs and some other data. What made it so? Mostly implementation complexity - but a slew of other factors mentioned above as well.</p> <p>So, consider this instead:</p> <ul> <li>Compliance? "Sorry, buddy, you need <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">this</a> for compliance, not <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/SIEM">that</a></u>. "  <li>Want to simplify your incident response? Get <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">log management</a> and <strong>fly through all your logs</strong>, not <em>crawl through some of them. </em> <li>Have a very real need to dig into your logs for troubleshooting or tracking that pesky user? <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">Log management</a> works.</li></ul> <p>Now, what if you have a latent and vague desire to "correlate something" and a million nice greenbacks to flush down the drain? OK, go get your SIEM toy for $780,000 + 20% maintenance/year ... a true bargain (<em>price valid today only</em>).</p> <p>Finally, I would like to end this on an optimistic note. Do we need more intelligence to analyze the log data we have collected? Of course! Do we have a widest set of log use cases from today's security&nbsp; to tomorrow's regulations? You bet. And, for <a href="http://www.raffy.ch/blog/">you Raffy</a>, I'd add "... we also have other data to analyze together with logs." So, can we "reinvent SIEM?" Yes, I think so! It just hasn't been done yet ... For now, just use <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">log management.</a></p> <div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:bbd77171-6078-4829-b04e-f71e64e80d0a" style="padding-right: 0px; display: inline; padding-left: 0px; float: none; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-top: 0px">Technorati tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/SIEM" rel="tag">SIEM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/SIM" rel="tag">SIM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/SEM" rel="tag">SEM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/log%20management" rel="tag">log management</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/humor" rel="tag">humor</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/security" rel="tag">security</a></div>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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Arts Education Partnership (&quot;AEP

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<img src="http://breachblog.com/images/95781-88451/balmar.jpg" width="193" align="right" height="53"><font size="2"><span style="font-weight: bold;">Date Reported: </span><br>6/3/08<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Organization: </span><br><a href="http://www.balmar.com/home.htm">Balmar Incorporated</a> <br><a href="http://www.aep-arts.org/#">Arts Education Partnership ("AEP")</a> <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Contractor/Consultant/Branch:</span><br>Unnamed hosting provider<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Victims:</span><br>Online customers<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Number Affected:</span><br>Unknown<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Types of Data:</span><br>Names, addresses, telephone numbers, emails, and credit card information.<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Breach Description:</span><br>Balmar Incorporated notified the Maryland State Attorney General of a breach that occurred sometime between April 4, 2008 and April 30, 2008, in which sensitive customer information was compromised through their ecommerce site.<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Reference URL:</span><br><a href="http://www.oag.state.md.us/idtheft/Breach%20Notices/ITU-153502.pdf">Maryland State Attorney General breach notification</a> <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Report Credit:</span><br>Maryland State Attorney General<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Response:</span><br>From the online source cited above:<br><br>Balmar Incorporated ("Balmar") recently experienced a data security breach in its e-commerce site server.<br><br>Balmar has reason to believe that the personal information of seven (7) of its online customers who reside in the State of Maryland may have been accessed sometime between April 4, 2008 and April 30, 2008 without proper authorization.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] The sensitive information may have been accessed sometime during the 26 days listed above, but as you will read later on in the notification, the attack started as early as March 27th.</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><br>The personal information affected may include customer names, addresses, telephone numbers, emails, and credit card information.<br><br>Balmar has determined that at least one fraudulent credit card transaction has occurred as a result of this incident.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] This is likely confirmation that the sensitive information WAS accessed, not "may have been" as stated previously.</span><br><br>A full analysis of our e-commerce server logs revealed on March 27, 2008, an individual initiated several SQL-injections queries on the main page of our e-commerce website from an IP address in Viet Nam.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] I am pleased to read that Balmar had/has implemented enough logging to determine the type and source of the attack.&nbsp; I am curious to know why the e-commerce site was under attack from March 27th until as late as April 30th without detection?&nbsp; Either the Balmar e-commerce site was not protected by intrusion detection/prevention or information security personnel didn't know how to use intrusion detection/prevention.&nbsp; IDS/IPS is a must-have for e-commerce platforms in most circumstances.&nbsp; Part of using IDS/IPS is to review and investigate alerts ASAP.</span><br><br>Random queries were attempted over time through March 31st.<br><br>By March 31st, the individual had gathered enough information to pipe the queries to a search bot.<br><br>By April 4th, the search bot was able to access and transfer data from our e-commerce server to a web page.<br><br>Once discovered, Balmar immediately undertook the following actions:<br></font><ul><li><font size="2">Reported the incident to the Virginia State Police and the FBI;</font></li><li>Contacted the web page host to demand that the page be disabled;</li><li>Removed all credit card information from the affected area of our database and moved it to a secured area of the database that cannot be accessed by the method used during the incident;</li><li>Installed an additional database security solution to detect and prevent any future attempted security breaches;</li><li>Sent notice to affected customers by letter and e-mail<br></li></ul><font size="2"><br>Balmar's investigation of this incident is ongoing.<br><br>We sincerely apologize to you for this situation and want to assure you that protecting the security and privacy of your information remains our top priority.<br><span style="font-style: italic;">[Evan] This letter is signed by the President of Balmar, Bruce Seger.&nbsp; I respect a business leader that speaks (or writes) about information security issues.&nbsp; It demonstrates his/her ownership.</span><br style="font-style: italic;"><br>We have made and will continue to make significant investments in security software, systems, and procedures, and will remain vigilant in protecting you.<br><br>For more information, contact us by telephone at 1 (800) 265-2724 or by email at bseger@balmar.com.<br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Commentary:</span><br>Was this an e-commerce site running code that was susceptible to SQL injection attacks and no host or network intrusion detection/prevention? <br><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Past Breaches:</span><br>Unknown</font><br><br>
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