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      <title><![CDATA[Privacy In the Cloud: Show Me The Money]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/2e805d07b3a60ac9d955f1ff811f3569</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Privacy is a lot like universal healthcare. Many agree its a good idea in concept, but few people want to pay for it
Richard Stallman - the man that gave us GNU - doesnt trust Cloud providers with his...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" style="float: right; border: 0; margin: 3px;" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2052/2404940312_e759c4030d_m_d.jpg" alt="Locker" width="180" height="240" />Privacy is a lot like universal healthcare.  Many agree its a good idea in concept, but few people want to pay for it.</p>
<p>Richard Stallman - the man that gave us <a href="http://www.gnu.org/">GNU</a> - <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman">doesn&#8217;t trust Cloud providers with his data</a> and says you shouldn&#8217;t either.  Richard believes we should store our private data on our own computers using &#8216;free&#8217; (as in <a href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/thegnuproject.html">freedom</a>) software.  The ironic part for Richard is that a significant portion of the Cloud is powered by open source software which he indirectly created (think <a href="http://gcc.gnu.org/">gcc</a>).</p>
<p>Richard sees it as a question of control.  Control is important but it isn&#8217;t the only variable.  Rather, I see it as a question of control, competence and economics.</p>
<p>The quick rebuttal to Richards&#8217; view is this: the average computer user is <a href="http://www.stallman.org/photos/rms-full-size.jpg">not as smart as you</a>.  Control is not the same as competence.  Control is about exercising choice, not about requiring everyone in the world to develop sufficient skills to protect complex hardware and software systems (aka their computer) against <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/">ever increasing threats</a>.</p>
<p>My view is that privacy is not &#8216;free&#8217;.  It comes at a cost.  Whether you run your own systems or rely on someone else to do it, there is a cost.  There is cost in designing and implementing mechanisms to support privacy.  Beyond upfront costs there are ongoing expenditures to ensure privacy is maintained e.g. maintaining access control lists, testing and applying security patches, data leakage prevention etc.  None of these things are &#8216;free&#8217;.</p>
<p>If we agree that privacy costs money then how much is your privacy worth?</p>
<p>Stop for a second - think of a number&#8230;  </p>
<p>Now did we all think of the <a href="http://pbskids.org/sesame/coloring/images/07_grover.gif">same number</a>?</p>
<p>The problem with a one size fits all approach to privacy is that we each place a different value on it.</p>
<p>Checking in on the <a href="http://epic.org/">EPIC</a> site, I saw this:  </p>
<blockquote><p>A new report from <a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/">Pew Internet and American Life Project</a> indicates that &#8220;cloud computing&#8221; applications, such as web-based email and other web apps, are raising new privacy concerns. The report <a href="http://www.pewinternet.org/press_release.asp?r=306" target="_blank">Use of Cloud Computing: Applications and Services</a> found that 69% of online Americans use webmail services, store data online, or use software programs such as word processing applications whose functionality is located on the web. At the same time, &#8220;users report high levels of concern when presented with scenarios in which companies may put their data to uses of which they may not be aware.&#8221; For example, 90% of respondents said that they &#8220;would be very concerned if the company at which their data were stored sold it to another party,&#8221; 80% say &#8220;they would be very concerned if companies used their photos or other data in marketing campaigns,&#8221; and 68% of &#8220;users of at least one of the six cloud applications say they would be very concerned if companies who provided these services analyzed their information and then displayed ads to them based on their actions.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>What does that tell us?</p>
<p>The average (American) Internet user finds Cloud services convenient but has concerns about how their privacy might be affected by Cloud providers actions (duh!).  The survey identifies a lack of awareness in how private data is used in some consumer based Cloud services (consistent with web advertising awareness surveys).  </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the results of this survey are not very actionable.  The survey doesn&#8217;t mention whether these are all &#8216;free&#8217; Cloud services (we can only assume they are) or ask the respondents what their expectations of privacy are and how much they would be willing to pay for different privacy assurance levels. </p>
<p>On a sidenote, respondents were not asked if they had actually read the privacy agreement for the services they signed up to.  But the providers know if they did or not&#8230;  Or at least, they have the data to figure it out.  At sign up time they can measure the time between displaying the privacy agreement and the user clicking &#8216;I accept&#8217;.  If its just a few seconds then its pretty obvious there was more scrolling than reading going on.  But I think we can probably guess the answer without the data ;-).</p>
<p>I believe we need to be able to link expectation of privacy with cost.</p>
<ul>
<li>How much are you willing to pay for privacy?  What level of privacy assurance do you need?</li>
<li>How much is your Cloud Provider paying to protect your privacy today?  What privacy services could they reasonably offer if they had customers willing to pay?  How might this compare with how you manage your private data on your home computer today?</li>
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<p>The cynical view is that we expect privacy but don&#8217;t want to pay for it.  Its a bit like uptime - there is a parallel universe out there, where internal IT departments allegedly meet their 99.999% uptime SLAs, but when Gmail goes down, the Sergey Brin witchcraft dolls come out.</p>
<p>From a provider perspective, the &#8220;cost&#8221; of privacy invariably gets bundled under that line item called &#8216;Information Security&#8217;.  And don&#8217;t be fooled, the cost of privacy in reality is more than the salary of the person employed to be the privacy advocate (if there is one).  If we can&#8217;t see how much our providers are spending on our privacy then how can we judge if they are spending enough?  And what is enough?  And what can I get if I&#8217;m willing to pay a little extra?</p>
<p>Personally, I would rather we get some transparency around privacy costs and assessment of offerings.  However, without a sufficiently sized market of customers willing to pay for privacy assurance and Cloud Providers willing to be more open, I won&#8217;t hold my breath.</p>
<p>What about you?  Would you be prepared to pay for privacy?  Should providers be more transparent about what they do and don&#8217;t do and how they do it?<br />
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Mitigating Exploitation Techniques]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/27bfc341fbca807ff6ecae555aaf5bad</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Hi, Matt Miller from Microsofts Security Science team here to talk about exploitation &amp; mitigation

Over the past decade exploitation techniques have been developed and refined to the point that very...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>Hi, Matt Miller from Microsoft’s Security Science team here to talk about exploitation &amp; mitigation.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>Over the past decade exploitation techniques have been developed and refined to the point that very little expertise has been needed to successfully exploit software vulnerabilities.&nbsp; These refinements have lowered the bar for attackers and drastically increased the probability that an attack will be successful.&nbsp; This has led to the need for mitigation techniques that can prevent or otherwise reduce the reliability of a given exploitation technique.&nbsp; In relation to one another, we can think about exploitation techniques as attempting to drive the probability of successful exploitation to 100%, whereas mitigation techniques attempt to drive the same probability to zero.&nbsp; While probability gives us a nice measure for the effectiveness of a mitigation technique, it doesn't give us immediate insight into the specific problems being solved by mitigations or the techniques that are being used to solve those problems.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=Calibri>Understanding the problems that are solved by mitigations is what provided the motivation for the presentation I will be giving at BlueHat.&nbsp; Many of the materials in this presentation were taken from my work with Leviathan Security Group and have been repurposed to focus on taking attendees on a journey through the technical evolution of the mitigation techniques developed by Microsoft.&nbsp; This evolution is illustrated in terms of the problems each mitigation technique is attempting to solve, the methods used to solve them, and how well each mitigation has stood the test of time thus far.&nbsp; The journey itself starts first with /GS and ends with a glimpse of the mitigation techniques we might expect to see in the future.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT face=Calibri size=3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: PMingLiU; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">It is my hope that this presentation will illustrate that mitigation<SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">s</SPAN>, when working in concert with one another, can be an effective method <SPAN style="COLOR: black; mso-themecolor: text1">of</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN>helping to keep users secure by reducing the probability of a successful exploitation attempt for the majority of known exploitation techniques.</SPAN><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8974688" width="1" height="1">]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[(ISC)2s Newest Cash Cow: The CSSLP Certification]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/4d2aae6d17ac0d88114660137a62c55f</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Earlier this week, during the OWASP AppSec 2008 Conference , the people behind the ubiquitous CISSP certification announced their latest creation the Certified Software Security Lifecycle Professional...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this week, during the <a href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=OWASP_NYC_AppSec_2008_Conference">OWASP AppSec 2008 Conference</a>, the people behind the ubiquitous CISSP certification announced their latest creation &#8212; the <a href="http://isc2.org/csslp">Certified Software Security Lifecycle Professional</a> (CSSLP).  In front of a captive audience waiting for a 42&#8243; plasma TV to be raffled, the <a href="http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/tipton/index.html">Executive Director of (ISC)2</a> outlined this new certification designed to appeal to application security professionals.  To his credit, Mr. Tipton stated very clearly that the CSSLP is not intended to measure one&#8217;s technical skillset.  Unfortunately, it&#8217;s inevitable that employers will treat it as such.</p>
<p>You can read all the details on their website (except for the part about the certification not being a measure of practical skills).  From what I can tell, the CSSLP is just the CISSP with different CBKs, or Common Bodies of Knowledge.  As with the CISSP, they are going for broad knowledge, not depth.  Starting in June 2009, you can get certified by taking a paper exam, likely a multiple choice test similar to the CISSP.  Why June?  Because the test isn&#8217;t even written yet &#8212; I&#8217;ve heard from several sources that they are actively soliciting their existing pool of CISSPs to help write test questions.</p>
<p>Ah, but what if you can&#8217;t wait that long and want to get certified <i>right away</i>?  You&#8217;re in luck. If you act before March 31, 2009, you can get grandfathered in without even having to take the exam!  That&#8217;s right, they call it the <a href="https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?category=1691">CSSLP Experience Assessment</a>, and here are the requirements:</p>
<div style="float:right; margin-left: 15px"><a href="http://www.veracode.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/101-hand_with_money.jpg"><img src="http://www.veracode.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/101-hand_with_money-191x300.jpg" alt="" title="101-hand_with_money" width="191" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-372 photoborder" /></a></div>
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<li>Upload a resume showing three years of experience related to software security, or four years if you don&#8217;t have a college degree</li>
<li>Write short essays (500 words maximum) discussing four CBKs of your choice</li>
<li>Get a CISSP to vouch for you</li>
<li>Pay $650</li>
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<p>Let&#8217;s examine these requirements one at a time.</p>
<p><b>Three years of experience</b>.  (ISC)2 doesn&#8217;t provide any requirements on depth of experience, other than citing the broadly-defined CBKs.  Considering they are targeting everyone from software developers to security assessors to business analysts (yes, really), chances are they are going to accept any experience that is even tangential to the SDLC or software security.</p>
<p><b>Short essays on four of the CBKs</b>.  I asked the (ISC)2 exhibitors specifically what they are looking for to satisfy this requirement, and they said the essays should be a general discussion of the CBK topic, <i>optionally</i> citing your personal experience in that area if you have any.  This messaging is not quite aligned with the website guidance, which states that the essays should be &#8220;Accomplishment Records&#8221; which are self-reported descriptions of experience.  Either way, with a maximum essay length of 500 words, it&#8217;s pretty obvious that substance is not (ISC)2&#8217;s first priority.  Here&#8217;s one data point for you: I spoke to someone who has already submitted the CSSLP Experience Assessment, and he said it took about an hour to write the essays.</p>
<p><b>Get a CISSP to vouch for you</b>.  Actually this can be any (ISC)2 certified person, not just CISSPs.  Contrary to what you&#8217;d expect, though, the person isn&#8217;t vouching for your skillset so much as they are confirming that the attestations on your resume are accurate.</p>
<p><b>Pay $650</b>.  You knew it was coming.  After all, there is money to be made.  How is it that qualifying for the CSSLP through professional experience should cost $650?  If you&#8217;re taking the written exam, fair enough, (ISC)2 does incur the cost of administering and grading that exam (even though the <a href="http://www.scantron.com/datacollection/scanners.aspx">Scantron machine</a> is probably paid off by now).  But $650 for the submitted-online Experience Assessment?  If we assume that the person reading these essay submissions makes a rather generous $100k per year, then $650 accounts for roughly a day and a half.  Will it really take that long to read a <i>maximum</i> of 2,000 words and pass judgment?  Of course not.  (ISC)2 wants to get as many people as possible to qualify based on &#8220;experience&#8221;, seeding the initial pool of CSSLPs and netting them $650 per head for doing next to nothing.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://www.ljkushner.com/about_mstr.html">Lee Kushner</a> stated during his OWASP AppSec presentation (<i>7 Habits of Highly Effective Career Managers</i>), &#8220;the more people who own a cert, the less relevant it becomes.&#8221;  Irrelevant &#8212; that&#8217;s exactly what the CISSP has become, and it&#8217;s exactly where the CSSLP is headed.  Meanwhile, (ISC)2 will sit back and watch while you and your employers continue to fill their coffers.</p>
<p>In closing, let me acknowledge that this blog entry probably comes across as judgmental.  I accept that.  I&#8217;m not ranting against the idea of certifications, though admittedly <a href="http://www.veracode.com/blog/2008/04/not-a-cissp/">I&#8217;m not a fan of them either</a>.  I am disappointed that (ISC)2, an organization with tremendous influence, could have created something more meaningful but chose not to. Why bother when people will just fork over the cash anyway?</p>
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      <source url="http://www.veracode.com/blog/2008/09/isc2s-newest-cash-cow-csslp/">(ISC)2s Newest Cash Cow: The CSSLP Certification</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[India Using Brain Scans to Prove Guilt in Court]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/c8eefaf0f50a7eb583aec6910b10db3f</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[This seems like a whole lot of pseudo-science: The technologies, generally regarded as promising but unproved, have yet to be widely accepted as evidence except in India, where in recent years judges...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/15/world/asia/15brainscan.html">This</a> seems like a whole lot of pseudo-science:</p>

<blockquote>The technologies, generally regarded as promising but unproved, have yet to be widely accepted as evidence — except in India, where in recent years judges have begun to admit brain scans. But it was only in June, in a murder case in Pune, in Maharashtra State, that a judge explicitly cited a scan as proof that the suspect’s brain held “experiential knowledge” about the crime that only the killer could possess, sentencing her to life in prison.

<p>[...]</p>

<p>This latest Indian attempt at getting past criminals’ defenses begins with an electroencephalogram, or EEG, in which electrodes are placed on the head to measure electrical waves. The suspect sits in silence, eyes shut. An investigator reads aloud details of the crime — as prosecutors see it — and the resulting brain images are processed using software built in Bangalore. </p>

<p>The software tries to detect whether, when the crime’s details are recited, the brain lights up in specific regions — the areas that, according to the technology’s inventors, show measurable changes when experiences are relived, their smells and sounds summoned back to consciousness. The inventors of the technology claim the system can distinguish between people’s memories of events they witnessed and between deeds they committed.</blockquote></p><div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[Interop NY: The ROI of Social Networking]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/8c52c835add6dca7c33f67c83e868434</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[How do you derive business value from social networks
Moderator: Nick Hoover, Senior Editor, InformationWeek
Speaker - Anne Berkowitch, Co-Founder &amp; CEO, SelectMinds
Speaker - J.B. Holston, CEO and...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you derive business <a href="http://www.interop.com/newyork/conference/enterprise-20.php" target="_blank">value from social networks</a>?</p>
<ul>
<li>Moderator: Nick Hoover, Senior Editor, InformationWeek</li>
<li>Speaker - Anne Berkowitch, Co-Founder &amp; CEO, SelectMinds</li>
<li>Speaker - J.B. Holston, CEO and President, NewsGator</li>
<li>Speaker - Umberto Milletti, CEO, InsideView</li>
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<p>Businesses can take advantage of social networks by finding innovative ways to reach out to people. Looking at who you know and how you know them can benefit you. Knowing a personal connection to someone that you are trying to contact (for sales) is helpful. The blurring between home, personal, and business life is making this information more available and better able to leverage. People are able to capture more valuable long term information from social networks.</p>
<p>A lot of social network applications can be taken from the talent management space. Deploying alumni networks as a talent source is also a great asset. Alumni represent a well-known and relevant population. This provides a great economic benefit from a social network.</p>
<p>If you are running a sales organization and looking at building a pipeline of leads, consider how these leads are relevant. The ability to get more leads is apparent in finding the right person, right connection, and right contact. Underlying everything are productivity and efficiency. How much time are sales reps spending researching and pursuing each opportunity? With information on social networks, the time can be greatly decreased. Knowledge sharing is something that can be actively measured.</p>
<p>The ROI varies with the business issue that&#8217;s trying to be addressed by a particular network. Recruiting for example has a very concrete, measurable ROI. Knowledge share gets a little more tricky. How do you measure how much is shared and the impact on business systems? Businesses need to determine what specific goal they are trying to address.</p>
<p>CFOs want to see ROI, not intuitive information. If you can demonstrate engagement and participation in these networks and knowledge sharing tools, more and more executives are getting comfortable seeing how it&#8217;s used at a qualitative and process level. It&#8217;s a very case by case basis.</p>
<p>One major crisis that we see in our customers is the competition between sales and marketing. Each wants to do their own thing, they go together like oil and water. However, the push of the economy is now forcing them work together. This is a great opportunity for IT to step in and help them collaborate and be more productive.</p>
<p>Other resistance from companies are how to manage what they are trying to accomplish while still giving employees free reign of sites like Facebook. What are the incentives for using these technologies? How does it fit into your company culture and productivity scale? You must bring meaning to the structure of engaging in social networks.</p>
<p>Social networks like LinkedIn and Facebook would not exist if people did not contribute information to them. However, if people don&#8217;t know that it is there, it does not exist. People need to see the value and get drawn in to engage. There are two ways that companies get into social networks. Tie it into the business process. The general idea of social networks are intuitive and easy to understand, which make it an easier case to present to chief executives. Make it clear - how do you go about it and what&#8217;s the value?</p>
<p>Social networks are intrinsically about extending the network, the more contacts you have, the more to choose from when researching a specific contact. It also has to be integrated into your dataworkflow. Companies are going to build a variety of networks inside and outside the enterprise. The big companies (SAP, IBM) are all rushing to offer collaborative and social network functionality. However, this is not entirely useful unless it&#8217;s integrated into the entire infrastructure.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[The terrifying cost of feeling safer ,&quot; from the Sydney Morning Herald : Sandler and his colleagues conducted an analysis of the costs and benefits of five different approaches to combating terrorism....]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"<a href="http://business.smh.com.au/business/the-terrifying-cost-of-feeling-safer-20080826-435l.html">The terrifying cost of feeling safer</a>," from the <i>Sydney Morning Herald</i>:</p>

<blockquote>Sandler and his colleagues conducted an analysis of the costs and benefits of five different approaches to combating terrorism. I must warn you that, because of the dearth of information, this study is even more reliant on assumptions than usual. Even so, in three cases the cost of the action so far exceeds the benefits that doubts about the reliability of the estimates recede.

<p>Because the loss of life is so low, they measure the benefits of successful counter-terrorism measures in terms of loss of gross domestic product avoided. Trouble is, terrorism does little to disrupt economic growth, as even September 11 demonstrated.</p>

<p>Using the case of the US, Sandler estimates that simply continuing the present measures involves costs exceeding benefits by a factor of at least 10. Adopting additional defensive measures (such as stepping up security at valuable targets) would, at best, entail costs 3.5 times the benefits. Taking more pro-active measures (such as invading Afghanistan) would have costs at least eight times the benefits.</p>

<p>According to Sandler, only greater international co-operation, or adopting more sensitive foreign policies to project a more positive image abroad, could produce benefits greater than their (minimal) costs.</p>

<p>What's that? You don't care what it costs because no one can put a value on saving a human life? Heard of opportunity cost? Taxpayers' money we waste on excessive counter-terrorism measures is money we can't spend reducing the gap between white and indigenous health -- or, if that doesn't appeal, on buying Olympic medals.</blockquote></p><div class="feedflare">
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      <description><![CDATA[The Center for Information Security (CIS) is set to release guidelines for how enterprises can measure the state of their organization's security and launch a service for companies to compare their...]]></description>
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      <title><![CDATA[Logging Poll #9 Analysis: Log Security]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[This is the analysis of my last poll; the responses are here and also below

First , the most obvious conclusion: people still don't care much about log security ; I am saying that since this was BY...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the analysis of my last poll; the responses are <a href="http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/351660/results">here</a> and also below.</p>  <p><a href="http://lh6.ggpht.com/anton.chuvakin/SMGa_ncGU2I/AAAAAAAAEyo/01NCHG4omE8/s1600-h/poll9logsecurity2.png"><img style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px" height="196" alt="poll9-log-security" src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/anton.chuvakin/SMGbAMHtGgI/AAAAAAAAEys/t2_vBRBKK7Q/poll9logsecurity_thumb.png?imgmax=800" width="244" border="0" /></a> </p>  <p><strong>First</strong>, the most obvious conclusion: people still don't <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/10/top-11-reasons-to-secure-and-protect.html">care much about log security</a>; I am saying that since this was BY FAR the <em>least</em> popular of <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/poll">my polls</a>. Only 24 people responded, so everything below is pretty unscientific :-)&#160; A good way to explain it: look at <a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;tab=wn&amp;ned=&amp;q=data+loss&amp;btnG=Search+News">the recent media</a>? Do these people care about their <strong>key business data</strong> and their <strong>customer data</strong> security? Nope. So, how on Earth do you make them care about securing their <strong>log data</strong>?</p>  <p><strong>Second,</strong>&#160; it is entirely unsurprising that 83% of respondents want &quot;Authenticated access to log server.&quot; In fact, I'd opine that 100% of people want authenticated access to <em>any</em> of their servers :-) But, this was my &quot;red herring&quot; to set the baselines for the rest of the questions...&#160; </p>  <p>However, this is where the buck stops: other security measures are notably less popular.</p>  <p><strong>Third</strong>, &quot;Logging all access to logs&quot; is my favorite and I am happy to see it reported as popular. But do you really do it?&#160; Do you log access to log server OR access to actual logs? Think about it... I think a lot of people who do the latter still answered &quot;yes&quot; to this one.</p>  <p><strong>Fourth</strong>,&#160; &quot;Reliable / acknowledged network transfer of log data&quot; and &quot;Encryption of log data in transit &quot; are two true &quot;no-brainer&quot; security features; they took the next spot at 45% and 50% of those who answered. They are simple, they are easy, they make&#160; sense - and, obviously, they don't make logs <em>entirely</em> secure so you need to do more. Why only 50%? Where is THE OTHER 50%?! </p>  <p><strong>Fifth</strong>, &quot;all things crypto&quot; are below 40%. &quot;Cryptographic hashing of stored logs&quot;, &quot;Cryptographic signing of stored log data&quot; and &quot;Encryption of stored log data&quot; all hover at around 30%. I attribute them to general disregard of log security AND reliance on &quot;system security&quot; (separate server, etc) over &quot;data security&quot; measures for log protection. </p>  <p><strong>Finally</strong>, I am embarrassed to say that I missed&#160; the obvious security measure &quot;<strong>Separate server for logging, not accessible from the Internet;&quot; </strong>one of my readers added this using &quot;Other security measures&quot; choice. Indeed, this is a good point - and <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">a good idea to do it</a>. Another option mention there was &quot;<strong>Destroy old logs.</strong>&quot; Amen to that too!</p>  <p><strong>Possibly related posts:</strong></p>  <ul>   <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/10/top-11-reasons-to-secure-and-protect.html">Top 11 Reasons to Secure and Protect Logs</a> </li>    <li><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/poll">All other polls and their analysis</a> </li> </ul>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <description><![CDATA[Return on investment, or ROI, is a big deal in business. Any business venture needs to demonstrate a positive return on investment, and a good one at that, in order to be viable
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Return on investment, or ROI, is a big deal in business. Any business venture needs to demonstrate a positive return on investment, and a good one at that, in order to be viable.</p>

<p>It's become a <a href="http://www.csoonline.com/article/print/217727">big</a> <a href="http://www.computerworld.com/securitytopics/security/story/0,10801,83207,00.html?nas=ROI-83207">deal</a> in IT security, too. Many corporate customers are demanding ROI models to demonstrate that a particular security investment pays off. And in response, vendors are providing ROI models that demonstrate how their particular security solution provides the best return on investment.</p>

<p>It's a <a href="http://communities.intel.com/openport/blogs/it/2008/08/25/are-security-roi-figures-meaningless">good</a> <a href="http://communities.intel.com/openport/blogs/it/2007/08/14/the-problem-of-measuring-information-security">idea</a> in <a href="https://buildsecurityin.us-cert.gov/daisy/bsi/articles/knowledge/business/677-BSI.html">theory</a>, <a href="http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2007/07/are-questions-sound.html">but</a> <a href="http://www.bloginfosec.com/2007/07/13/bejtlich-and-business-will-it-blend/">it's</a> <a href="http://blog.vorant.com/2007/07/my-input-to-roi-spat.html">mostly</a> <a href="http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2007/07/no-roi-no-problem.html">bunk</a> <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/07/security-roi-pile-up.html">in</a> <a href="http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2007/07/security-roi-revisited.html">practice</a>.</p>

<p>Before I get into the details, there's one point I have to make. "ROI" as used in a security context is inaccurate. Security is not an investment that provides a return, like a new factory or a financial instrument. It's an expense that, hopefully, pays for itself in cost savings. Security is about loss prevention, not about earnings. The term just doesn't make sense in this context.</p>

<p>But as anyone who has lived through a company's vicious end-of-year budget-slashing exercises knows, when you're trying to make your numbers, cutting costs is the same as increasing revenues. So while security can't produce ROI, loss prevention most certainly affects a company's bottom line.</p>

<p>And a company should implement only security countermeasures that affect its bottom line positively. It shouldn't spend more on a security problem than the problem is worth. Conversely, it shouldn't ignore problems that are costing it money when there are cheaper mitigation alternatives. A smart company needs to approach security as it would any other business decision: costs versus benefits.</p>

<p>The classic methodology is called annualized loss expectancy (ALE), and it's straightforward. Calculate the cost of a security incident in both tangibles like time and money, and intangibles like reputation and competitive advantage. Multiply that by the chance the incident will occur in a year. That tells you how much you should spend to mitigate the risk. So, for example, if your store has a 10 percent chance of getting robbed and the cost of being robbed is $10,000, then you should spend $1,000 a year on security. Spend more than that, and you're wasting money. Spend less than that, and you're also wasting money.</p>

<p>Of course, that $1,000 has to reduce the chance of being robbed to zero in order to be cost-effective. If a security measure cuts the chance of robbery by 40 percent -- to 6 percent a year -- then you should spend no more than $400 on it. If another security measure reduces it by 80 percent, it's worth $800. And if two security measures both reduce the chance of being robbed by 50 percent and one costs $300 and the other $700, the first one is worth it and the second isn't.</p>

<p>The Data Imperative</p>

<p>The key to making this work is good data; the term of art is "actuarial tail." If you're doing an ALE analysis of a security camera at a convenience store, you need to know the crime rate in the store's neighborhood and maybe have some idea of how much cameras improve the odds of convincing criminals to rob another store instead. You need to know how much a robbery costs: in merchandise, in time and annoyance, in lost sales due to spooked patrons, in employee morale. You need to know how much not having the cameras costs in terms of employee morale; maybe you're having trouble hiring salespeople to work the night shift. With all that data, you can figure out if the cost of the camera is cheaper than the loss of revenue if you close the store at night -- assuming that the closed store won't get robbed as well. And then you can decide whether to install one.</p>

<p>Cybersecurity is considerably harder, because there just isn't enough good data. There aren't good crime rates for cyberspace, and we have a lot less data about how individual security countermeasures -- or specific configurations of countermeasures -- mitigate those risks. We don't even have data on incident costs.</p>

<p>One problem is that the threat moves too quickly. The characteristics of the things we're trying to prevent change so quickly that we can't accumulate data fast enough. By the time we get some data, there's a new threat model for which we don't have enough data. So we can't create ALE models.</p>

<p>But there's another problem, and it's that the math quickly falls apart when it comes to rare and expensive events. Imagine you calculate the cost -- reputational costs, loss of customers, etc. -- of having your company's name in the newspaper after an embarrassing cybersecurity event to be $20 million. Also assume that the odds are 1 in 10,000 of that happening in any one year. ALE says you should spend no more than $2,000 mitigating that risk.</p>

<p>So far, so good. But maybe your CFO thinks an incident would cost only $10 million. You can't argue, since we're just estimating. But he just cut your security budget in half. A vendor trying to sell you a product finds a Web analysis claiming that the odds of this happening are actually 1 in 1,000. Accept this new number, and suddenly a product costing 10 times as much is still a good investment.</p>

<p>It gets worse when you deal with even more rare and expensive events. Imagine you're in charge of terrorism mitigation at a chlorine plant. What's the cost to your company, in money and reputation, of a large and very deadly explosion? $100 million? $1 billion? $10 billion? And the odds: 1 in a hundred thousand, 1 in a million, 1 in 10 million? Depending on how you answer those two questions -- and any answer is really just a guess -- you can justify spending anywhere from $10 to $100,000 annually to mitigate that risk.</p>

<p>Or take another example: airport security. Assume that all the new airport security measures increase the waiting time at airports by -- and I'm making this up -- 30 minutes per passenger. There were 760 million passenger boardings in the United States in 2007. This means that the extra waiting time at airports has cost us a collective 43,000 years of extra waiting time. Assume a 70-year life expectancy, and the increased waiting time has "killed" 620 people per year -- 930 if you calculate the numbers based on 16 hours of awake time per day. So the question is: If we did away with increased airport security, would the result be more people dead from terrorism or fewer?</p>

<p>Caveat Emptor</p>

<p>This kind of thing is why most ROI models you get from security vendors are <a href="http://www.postini.com/services/roi_calculator.html">nonsense</a>. Of course their model demonstrates that their product or service makes financial sense: They've jiggered the numbers so that they do.</p>

<p>This doesn't mean that ALE is useless, but it does mean you should 1) mistrust any analyses that come from people with an agenda and 2) use any results as a general guideline only. So when you get an ROI model from your vendor, take its framework and plug in your own numbers. Don't even show the vendor your improvements; it won't consider any changes that make its product or service less cost-effective to be an "improvement." And use those results as a general guide, along with risk management and compliance analyses, when you're deciding what security products and services to buy.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.csoonline.com/article/446866/Security_ROI_Fact_or_Fiction_">previously appeared</a> in <i>CSO Magazine</i>.</p><div class="feedflare">
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