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    <pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[MI6 Camera -- Including Secrets -- Sold on eBay]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/787b3bf3fc7e8ad2d3585c7a4f37ed35</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I wish I'd known : A 28-year-old delivery man from the UK who bought a Nikon Coolpix camera for about $31 on eBay got more than he bargained for when the camera arrived with top secret information...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/30/top-secret-mi6-camera-sold-to-the-highest-bidder-on-ebay/">wish</a> I'd <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5056749/mi6-camera-with-secret-images-bought-on-ebay-for-30">known</a>:</p>

<blockquote>A 28-year-old delivery man from the UK who bought a Nikon Coolpix camera for about $31 on eBay got more than he bargained for when the camera arrived with top secret information from the UK's MI6 organization.

<p>Allegedly sold by one of the clandestine organization's agents, the camera contained named al-Qaeda cells, names, images of suspected terrorists and weapons, fingerprint information, and log-in details for the Secret Service's computer network, containing a "Top Secret" marking.</blockquote></p>

<p>He turned the camera in to the police.</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/10/mi6_camera_--_i.html">MI6 Camera -- Including Secrets -- Sold on eBay</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Credit-card security standard issued after much debate ]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/01216534647f9456d3a180c9517e56cb</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[The Payment Card Industry Security Standards Council, the organization that sets technical requirements for processing credit- and debit-cards, today issued revised security rules, while also...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[The Payment Card Industry Security Standards Council, the organization that sets technical requirements for processing credit- and debit-cards, today issued revised security rules, while also indicating next year it will focus on new guidelines for end-to-end encryption, payment machines and virtualization.]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/100108-pci-credit-card.html?fsrc=rss-security">Credit-card security standard issued after much debate </source>
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      <title><![CDATA[(ISC)2s Newest Cash Cow: The CSSLP Certification]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/4d2aae6d17ac0d88114660137a62c55f</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Earlier this week, during the OWASP AppSec 2008 Conference , the people behind the ubiquitous CISSP certification announced their latest creation the Certified Software Security Lifecycle Professional...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier this week, during the <a href="http://www.owasp.org/index.php?title=OWASP_NYC_AppSec_2008_Conference">OWASP AppSec 2008 Conference</a>, the people behind the ubiquitous CISSP certification announced their latest creation &#8212; the <a href="http://isc2.org/csslp">Certified Software Security Lifecycle Professional</a> (CSSLP).  In front of a captive audience waiting for a 42&#8243; plasma TV to be raffled, the <a href="http://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/tipton/index.html">Executive Director of (ISC)2</a> outlined this new certification designed to appeal to application security professionals.  To his credit, Mr. Tipton stated very clearly that the CSSLP is not intended to measure one&#8217;s technical skillset.  Unfortunately, it&#8217;s inevitable that employers will treat it as such.</p>
<p>You can read all the details on their website (except for the part about the certification not being a measure of practical skills).  From what I can tell, the CSSLP is just the CISSP with different CBKs, or Common Bodies of Knowledge.  As with the CISSP, they are going for broad knowledge, not depth.  Starting in June 2009, you can get certified by taking a paper exam, likely a multiple choice test similar to the CISSP.  Why June?  Because the test isn&#8217;t even written yet &#8212; I&#8217;ve heard from several sources that they are actively soliciting their existing pool of CISSPs to help write test questions.</p>
<p>Ah, but what if you can&#8217;t wait that long and want to get certified <i>right away</i>?  You&#8217;re in luck. If you act before March 31, 2009, you can get grandfathered in without even having to take the exam!  That&#8217;s right, they call it the <a href="https://www.isc2.org/cgi-bin/content.cgi?category=1691">CSSLP Experience Assessment</a>, and here are the requirements:</p>
<div style="float:right; margin-left: 15px"><a href="http://www.veracode.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/101-hand_with_money.jpg"><img src="http://www.veracode.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/101-hand_with_money-191x300.jpg" alt="" title="101-hand_with_money" width="191" height="300" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-372 photoborder" /></a></div>
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<li>Upload a resume showing three years of experience related to software security, or four years if you don&#8217;t have a college degree</li>
<li>Write short essays (500 words maximum) discussing four CBKs of your choice</li>
<li>Get a CISSP to vouch for you</li>
<li>Pay $650</li>
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<p>Let&#8217;s examine these requirements one at a time.</p>
<p><b>Three years of experience</b>.  (ISC)2 doesn&#8217;t provide any requirements on depth of experience, other than citing the broadly-defined CBKs.  Considering they are targeting everyone from software developers to security assessors to business analysts (yes, really), chances are they are going to accept any experience that is even tangential to the SDLC or software security.</p>
<p><b>Short essays on four of the CBKs</b>.  I asked the (ISC)2 exhibitors specifically what they are looking for to satisfy this requirement, and they said the essays should be a general discussion of the CBK topic, <i>optionally</i> citing your personal experience in that area if you have any.  This messaging is not quite aligned with the website guidance, which states that the essays should be &#8220;Accomplishment Records&#8221; which are self-reported descriptions of experience.  Either way, with a maximum essay length of 500 words, it&#8217;s pretty obvious that substance is not (ISC)2&#8217;s first priority.  Here&#8217;s one data point for you: I spoke to someone who has already submitted the CSSLP Experience Assessment, and he said it took about an hour to write the essays.</p>
<p><b>Get a CISSP to vouch for you</b>.  Actually this can be any (ISC)2 certified person, not just CISSPs.  Contrary to what you&#8217;d expect, though, the person isn&#8217;t vouching for your skillset so much as they are confirming that the attestations on your resume are accurate.</p>
<p><b>Pay $650</b>.  You knew it was coming.  After all, there is money to be made.  How is it that qualifying for the CSSLP through professional experience should cost $650?  If you&#8217;re taking the written exam, fair enough, (ISC)2 does incur the cost of administering and grading that exam (even though the <a href="http://www.scantron.com/datacollection/scanners.aspx">Scantron machine</a> is probably paid off by now).  But $650 for the submitted-online Experience Assessment?  If we assume that the person reading these essay submissions makes a rather generous $100k per year, then $650 accounts for roughly a day and a half.  Will it really take that long to read a <i>maximum</i> of 2,000 words and pass judgment?  Of course not.  (ISC)2 wants to get as many people as possible to qualify based on &#8220;experience&#8221;, seeding the initial pool of CSSLPs and netting them $650 per head for doing next to nothing.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://www.ljkushner.com/about_mstr.html">Lee Kushner</a> stated during his OWASP AppSec presentation (<i>7 Habits of Highly Effective Career Managers</i>), &#8220;the more people who own a cert, the less relevant it becomes.&#8221;  Irrelevant &#8212; that&#8217;s exactly what the CISSP has become, and it&#8217;s exactly where the CSSLP is headed.  Meanwhile, (ISC)2 will sit back and watch while you and your employers continue to fill their coffers.</p>
<p>In closing, let me acknowledge that this blog entry probably comes across as judgmental.  I accept that.  I&#8217;m not ranting against the idea of certifications, though admittedly <a href="http://www.veracode.com/blog/2008/04/not-a-cissp/">I&#8217;m not a fan of them either</a>.  I am disappointed that (ISC)2, an organization with tremendous influence, could have created something more meaningful but chose not to. Why bother when people will just fork over the cash anyway?</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.veracode.com/blog/2008/09/isc2s-newest-cash-cow-csslp/">(ISC)2s Newest Cash Cow: The CSSLP Certification</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Of Planes and Ships]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/47dfbf92b3eaba317f07cfa2064d0a9b</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Tom Barnett is consistently the most interesting writer on globalization and econo-security seam. This weeks piece confronts a problem every security architect can relate to (emphasis added on the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/weblog/2008/09/column_121.html">Tom Barnett</a> is consistently the most interesting writer on globalization and econo-security seam. This weeks piece confronts a problem every security architect can relate to (emphasis added on the &quot;nail it to the wall&quot; quote at the end):</p><p><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">One of the main problems in counterterrorism today is that there are so many people and vehicles, and so much data and material, moving through globalization&#39;s myriad networks that it seems virtually impossible to track it all effectively. Nowhere has this problem been more acute than on the high seas.</span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">In 2006, Adm. Harry Ulrich, then U.S. commander of NATO Naval Forces Europe, decided to do something about it. Despite having virtually no resources, his dream was to transpose the global air-traffic control system onto sea traffic.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">Worldwide, aircraft are transparent, because they&#39;re all required to carry an identification beacon that allows them to be tracked leaving and entering airports, and monitored between airports, by a global network of sensors. Act suspiciously and somebody&#39;s fighter aircraft will soon be on your tail.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">No such pervasive system currently exists globally for maritime traffic. While bigger ships carry an ID beacon similar to aircraft, without a shared monitoring network, that&#39;s like tracking only selected commercial jets and giving everyone else a pass.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">So Ulrich, upon taking command, asked a simple question: &quot;If we can do that in the air, why can&#39;t we do it on the sea?&quot; He made a point of pioneering his sea-traffic-control effort first inside the Mediterranean, where NATO&#39;s southern naval forces have historically been concentrated, but his real target was waters off Africa -- the most ungoverned maritime space in the world.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">Ulrich knew the U. S. Navy couldn&#39;t do it alone, much less bring Africa&#39;s meager coast-guard-like navies up to snuff so they could do it on their own. So he quickly created a network of assets -- both public and private -- to manage that space, modeling his monitoring system on international air-traffic control.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">Ulrich began stitching together a network of shore-based sensors ringing the Mediterranean. His naval command then began initial monitoring by tapping into the International Maritime Organization&#39;s existing Automated Identification System, transforming NATO&#39;s ability to track ship traffic in the Med.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">Almost overnight, NATO went from tracking dozens of ships on the Mediterranean to thousands, and instead of getting the data sometimes up to 72 hours late, now the contacts were being tracked in one to five minutes -- to an accuracy within 50 feet on the earth&#39;s surface.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">When the classic big-firm systems integrators told Ulrich it would be too costly to pull it off, the admiral turned to the Volpe Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts, a U.S. Department of Transportation research center. Instead of hundreds of millions of dollars, Ulrich&#39;s initial network cost $900,000. The shore-based receivers are small, roughly the size of a radar dish you might find on a pleasure craft.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">The strength of the system is a function of its reach: the more countries join, the larger the shared operational picture. By the time Ulrich retired at the end of 2007, he had enlisted 32 countries throughout the Mediterranean, the North Atlantic, along the west coast of Africa, around the Black Sea, and in the Pacific. Today, the network continues to spread around the planet.</span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px; "><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">With Ulrich&#39;s system in place, local police, coast guards, and border patrols catch most bad guys, obviating American military responses. As Harry told me for an article I wrote about his work in a fall 2007 issue of Esquire, </span><span style="font-weight: bold; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">&quot;I don&#39;t do defense; I do security. When you talk defense, you talk containment and mutually assured destruction. When you talk security, you talk collaboration and networking. This is the future.&quot;</span></span><span style="font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">The admiral&#39;s legacy program, the Maritime Safety and Security Information System, earned the Volpe Center a prestigious &quot;Innovations in American Government&quot; award this month from Harvard University&#39;s Ash Institute for Democratic Governance and Innovation.</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></p><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">Security Collaboration + Networking &#160;= Federation. This is indeed the future - SAML came along just at the nick of time.</span></div><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">When you assume that to do access control you must have &quot;Complete Mediation&quot; in Saltzer and Schroeder&#39;s terms of the subject (users), the objects (data), the session, and the roles, then you are going to have an interesting life trying to deliver anything. And if you do it will mucho expensive.</span></div><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; "><br /></span></div><div><span style="border-collapse: collapse; line-height: 20px; font-size: 13px; font-family: &#39;Trebuchet MS&#39;; ">if you take the federated autonomous nodes approach, agree upon an attribute schema plus a protection model for same, and basic protocol, you are then free to move about the country. Security doesn&#39;t have to equal centralization or high cost. Get the attributes from point a to point b securely.</span></div>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/security">security</category>
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      <source url="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2008/09/of-planes-and-ships.html">Of Planes and Ships</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[One Mans Frustrations With Risk Management]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/35f7d9bc833b43ad15689be67c2bbe31</link>
      <guid>http://securityratty.com/article/35f7d9bc833b43ad15689be67c2bbe31</guid>
      <description><![CDATA[Chris, who is a male in Government C&amp;A has a blog with a wonderful title: How is that Assurance Evidence
Id love to have another blog even more specific - Ok, that Assurance is Evidence Of What,...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, who is a male in Government C&amp;A has a blog with a wonderful title:<a href="http://howisthatassuranceevidence.blogspot.com/"> How is that Assurance Evidence? </a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to have another blog even more specific - &#8220;Ok, that Assurance is Evidence <em><strong>Of What, Exactly</strong></em>?</p>
<p>Today he has a great article called:</p>
<p><a name="2599135121032652210"></a></p>
<h2 class="title"><a href="http://howisthatassuranceevidence.blogspot.com/2008/09/whats-matter-with-risk-management.html">What&#8217;s the matter with Risk Management?</a></h2>
<p><em>And &#8220;in short, it&#8217;s everything.&#8221;</em> It pretty much sums up why I had to grow to re-evaluate how our industry does risk, risk management, approaches controls &amp; vulnerability and find a new way.   A couple of things jump out at me in reading Chris&#8217; article:</p>
<p><strong>1.)  Just because that Deming cycle sucks and is full of unknowns doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;risk&#8221; doesn&#8217;t exist, nor that it isn&#8217;t of primary importance.</strong> Nor does it mean that in the absence of model &amp; methodology, we won&#8217;t be &#8220;doing&#8221; risk analysis anyway - just in an ad hoc method and completely from &#8220;the gut&#8221;.</p>
<p>Our industry calls these unstructured risk analysis &#8220;Best Practices&#8221;, as it&#8217;s an easy and convenient way of sweeping the unknowns under the rug of bureaucracy and enforcing it via peer pressure.</p>
<p><strong>2.)  What this &#8220;suckiness&#8221; does mean is that your model and methodology aren&#8217;t helping you.</strong> As Chris intimates, there is too much uncertainty in the inputs for his model (they are, in the language of Bayesians - too subjective to be useful priors).</p>
<p>Take for example how we might be approaching the &#8220;controls&#8221; part of our analysis.  Chris writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;2.  What are the controls that we have to employ?<br />
800-53, ISO 27001, PCI, etc.</em></p>
<p><em>Still kinda good, but we basically know that ISO is relatively voluntary and NIST supplies a control catalog and not policies. So here we have to take the control catalog, and mash our policies into it.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call this &#8220;kinda good&#8221; at all :)  These control catalogs only provide a hierarchy within which to look for evidence of  our ability to resist an attacker.  They are incapable of making any claim about the effectiveness of the controls when they are operated at 100% efficiency, or more importantly, what % efficiency our specific organization operates at.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s use <a href="http://risktical.com/initech-inc/">Chris Hayes&#8217; Initech as our fictional example</a>.</p>
<p>Initech has a control (a back door on a loading dock).  Now the locks on the door are 100% capable of locking the door.  This is different than saying that they are capable of frustrating all but the top 5% of lockpicking burgalars.  It is also diffferent than saying that in a sample of several &#8220;walk around audits&#8221; the doors are left open 20% of the time (they are not in compliance with policy 100% of the time).  Even worse, that 80% of the time the door is not propped open?  Yeah, tailgating is a known issue.</p>
<p>So we have several different variables here that we need to account for (and it&#8217;s just a door).  But the analogy stands that most &#8220;risk management&#8221; methodologies are &#8220;We have a door, yes/no?&#8221; And most GRC platforms, when asked for their &#8220;opinion&#8221; will simply say &#8220;door is needed&#8221; or, even worse, &#8220;a door policy is needed&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>3.)  Criticality and the Source of Value is all messed up in these Risk Management models.<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Chris writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Someone wants me to tell them which boxes are more critical than others. This is mainly because of budgetary or operational reasons. To which I usually say &#8220;All of them, it is a system after all&#8221;.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>This literally made me laugh out loud.  And <strong><a href="http://riskmanagementinsight.com/riskanalysis/?p=383">this sort of &#8220;rate the firewall as Risk = 500 but rate the actual business application as Risk = 157&#8243; thing is</a></strong> also endemic.  Now Chris is very smart here.  He correctly identifies that the value is tied to the business process the systems support, and not to a specific box.  Oh, we scan at the specific box level - but because of the nature of systemic failures - all the boxes in the process are inexorably interrelated.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I really like FAIR is that the losses are quantified (or qualified) based not on some amorphous value of the box or the process itself, but<strong> losses are linked to the actions that the threat will take. </strong> Take systems in a highly regulated industries as an example.  Usually the most probable losses aren&#8217;t due to system compromise per se, but in the disclosure the compromise causes (regulators are a threat source, after all).  But many &#8220;risk management&#8221; methodologies will say &#8220;online banking is worth $2 billion, the value of the systems is therefore $2 billion&#8221;.  And suddenly we&#8217;re telling executive management that there&#8217;s a 60% probability that they&#8217;ll lose $2 billion.</p>
<p><strong>4.)  If the primary source of prior information for your &#8220;risk management&#8221; methodology is a vulnerability scanner</strong> - <em><strong>you&#8217;re doing it wrong</strong></em>.  Chris writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>So we ran a scan and now we have a report. A snapshot in time to make all decisions. Where did these vulnerability ratings come from? Do I even know if my system is at risk? What if I spend my time on vulnerabilities that have no threat?</em></p></blockquote>
<p>So first, my thoughts are that actual &#8220;vulnerability&#8221; must be a comparison of the force a threat can apply, and our ability to resist that force (this is a probability statement, btw).</p>
<p>Changing your thinking about vulnerability now helps us understand the problem in several new ways.  First, you can start to divorce yourself from the scanner.  After all, the scanner is simply providing you with current state information that is usually just relevant variance from policy. It doesn&#8217;t really tell you about real &#8220;weakness in a system&#8221; because the system is an interrelated mess of people, processes and IT assets.</p>
<p><strong>5.)  Finally, most &#8220;risk management&#8221; approaches just *don&#8217;t* do a good job of helping us understand the how&#8217;s and why&#8217;s of <em>managing</em> <em>risk</em>.</strong> In the past, I&#8217;ve referred to these standards as really being &#8220;issue management&#8221; because they are at their heart, an act of discovery - a formal process around gathering prior information.  They are not, in and of themselves, capable of linking the issues discovered to the root cause.  And these root causes?  Yeah, they&#8217;re the things that create &#8220;risk&#8221;.  Not a threat, not a vulnerability, not the existence of an asset - the amount of risk that we have stems from our capability to manage it.</p>
<p>So Chris, I completely agree - but I wouldn&#8217;t give up yet.  There actually are a few of us who are focused on what you suggest:</p>
<blockquote><p>Where to go from here: A fundamental revamp of how to deal with Risk. Where risk professionals focus on the treating the sickness and not the symptoms, and come up with some new success/actionable metrics.</p></blockquote>
<p>Chris, there&#8217;s nothing I want to do more than that.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[About the SDL Pro Network]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Hello all, Dave here
I expect that a number of you have seen the announcement and various press articles or Steve Lipner's Tuesday post about our launch of the SDL Threat Modeling Tool 3.0, the SDL...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello all, Dave here... 
<P>I expect that a number of you have seen the <A href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2008/sep08/09-16lipnersdl.mspx" mce_href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2008/sep08/09-16lipnersdl.mspx">announcement</A> and various press articles or <A href="http://blogs.msdn.com/sdl/archive/2008/09/16/sdl-press-tour-announcements.aspx" mce_href="http://blogs.msdn.com/sdl/archive/2008/09/16/sdl-press-tour-announcements.aspx">Steve Lipner's Tuesday post</A> about our launch of the SDL Threat Modeling Tool 3.0, the SDL Optimization Model and the <A href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/E/9/0E9AC448-30B2-4451-9E23-46244AFABB7F/Microsoft%20SDL%20Pro%20Network%20_Fact%20Sheet.pdf" mce_href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/E/9/0E9AC448-30B2-4451-9E23-46244AFABB7F/Microsoft%20SDL%20Pro%20Network%20_Fact%20Sheet.pdf">SDL Pro Network</A>.&nbsp; Since I was intimately involved with the creation of the SDL Pro Network, I thought I'd write a few words about our objectives and chat a bit about the thinking behind our partner choices for the pilot phase.</P>
<P>So, what are we hoping to gain by creating a network of security consulting and training experts to work with customers who want to implement the SDL?&nbsp; Generally speaking, this question has a two-part answer:&nbsp; First, Microsoft is, and always will be a partner-driven company - we rely on the skills and capabilities of our partners to provide specialized services and broad geographic coverage for Microsoft products and services.&nbsp; Second, even though there are talented folks in the <A href="http://www.microsoft.com/services/microsoftservices/default.mspx" mce_href="http://www.microsoft.com/services/microsoftservices/default.mspx">Microsoft Services</A> organization, it's clear that we will need help from our partners to scale to meet the demand.&nbsp; I can't tell you how many times the folks on the SDL team have been approached by people - after an executive briefing, or a session at TechEd - asking for guidance in implementing SDL in their own organizations.&nbsp; When we look at the demand and pair it with the geographic diversity of our customer base, it's clear that a partner approach is the right answer.</P>
<P>Now a few words about the partners who will be participating in the pilot phase...</P>
<P>After the decision was made to work with partners on SDL delivery, we had two primary criteria that we had to address; partner quality, and manageability of the SDL Pro Network pilot. We have all seen instances where individuals or consulting organizations have represented themselves to the IT community as having security expertise when in reality the "experts for hire" were simply reading a page or two ahead of the customer in whatever security tome was "in vogue" at the time.&nbsp; </P>
<P>Based on those observations, it was clear that partner "quality" was a critical criterion. &nbsp;Fortunately for us, we didn't have to look far to satisfy our quality bar - many of the companies in the SDL Pro Network pilot have direct experience with executing portions of the SDL on <I>our</I> products, or have delivered services to Microsoft in a security context. Design reviews, code reviews, penetration testing, training&nbsp;and other tasks critical to SDL implementation were (and are) common fare for these folks.</P>
<P>Despite the customer demand for SDL that I alluded to above, starting with a small pilot was the right thing to do; a small group of trusted consultancies supports our imperative for quality and it allows us to pragmatically grow the SDL Pro Network as the market matures. &nbsp;As we continue to evolve and innovate with the SDL, we'll have a strong core of partners to help drive the software security message. </P>
<P>Will we grow the SDL Pro Network?&nbsp; The qualified answer is: "When the market demands it..." - there are a number of talented potential partners who meet the quality bar - and clearly, the need for security in software development will grow to demand additional talented specialists. However, it's our plan to begin with a small set of partners of known expertise, and then respond to growing demand as it materializes.</P>
<P>So there you have it - the nuanced beginning and bright future of the SDL Pro Network...&nbsp; I invite your comments, and encourage you to check in at the <A href="http://www.microsoft.com/sdl" mce_href="http://www.microsoft.com/sdl">SDL Portal</A> as we continue to build out the program</P><img src="http://blogs.msdn.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=8958114" width="1" height="1">]]></content:encoded>
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      <source url="http://blogs.msdn.com/sdl/archive/2008/09/18/about-the-sdl-pro-network.aspx">About the SDL Pro Network</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Major security upgrade eases data transfer for HDFC]]></title>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[How much money a company makes is directly proportional to how much information it can push to its people -- especially for a financial organization. With the right information at right time, the bottom line doesn't have to be an unhappy place.<p><A href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/idg.us.nwf.rss/security;sz=468x60;ord=35081?">
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      <description><![CDATA[The theme of the 2008 Executive Women's Forum on Information Security, Risk Management &amp; Privacy is &quot;risk convergence is inevitable.&quot; The risks associated with information security, privacy, physical...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[The theme of the 2008 Executive Women's Forum on Information Security, Risk Management & Privacy is "risk convergence is inevitable." The risks associated with information security, privacy, physical security and so forth are converging such that an integrated management approach is required from within the firm. <br />
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Interestingly enough, business continuity management was not a key risk area mentioned by all panelists of the session titled "Convergence: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly." There were two pieces of strategic program management advice from the panelists. The first point is that you have to partner with all of your lines of business and corporate support areas. Since risk is related to the delivery of the business, no one department can address all of the issues. And, you might find that there are good practices already in place within your firm, so that you are not reinventing the wheel - leverage the good stuff throughout the firm. The second point is to focus on the budget issue - how many risk-related activities are already in place in your organization that could be combined, and possibly duplicated, so that more work gets done with less money spent? Pooling of already limited budgets can go a long way toward developing a program that is more mature, delivers more benefit to the organization and eliminates a lot of duplicative work. <br />
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But all of this convergence comes at a price - mainly in fear, uncertainty and doubt of the workforce. Some feel that they will lose authority (especially in siloed risk approaches); others might lose their jobs as a result of the convergence. This human aspect was mentioned as the key challenge of an integrated approach. Therefore, communicating not only up within the firm but down to the workforce is critical to achieving a well-run and integrated program. <br />
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And finally, for those areas that just don't want to "play the game," use your internal audit department as the "stick" that can get them to act. When I was an IT risk manager, I always said that I was management's best friend - let me tell you the gaps in your risk program rather than having them come from the audit department, which then become part of the records of the firm.]]></content:encoded>
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      <source url="http://blog.gartner.com/blog/security.php?x=0&amp;itemid=3879">From the Executive Women's Forum on Information Security</source>
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      <description><![CDATA[Source: Novell) Security trends and hacking techniques are continually changing, and the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI-DSS) continues to evolve. To stay ahead of these trends and...]]></description>
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      <source url="http://feeds.computerworld.com/click.phdo?i=c62e6281f0b4aef40f0c51614d634a96">Achieve PCI Compliance with Novell Sentinel"</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Interop NY: The ROI of Social Networking]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[How do you derive business value from social networks
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you derive business <a href="http://www.interop.com/newyork/conference/enterprise-20.php" target="_blank">value from social networks</a>?</p>
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<li>Moderator: Nick Hoover, Senior Editor, InformationWeek</li>
<li>Speaker - Anne Berkowitch, Co-Founder &amp; CEO, SelectMinds</li>
<li>Speaker - J.B. Holston, CEO and President, NewsGator</li>
<li>Speaker - Umberto Milletti, CEO, InsideView</li>
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<p>Businesses can take advantage of social networks by finding innovative ways to reach out to people. Looking at who you know and how you know them can benefit you. Knowing a personal connection to someone that you are trying to contact (for sales) is helpful. The blurring between home, personal, and business life is making this information more available and better able to leverage. People are able to capture more valuable long term information from social networks.</p>
<p>A lot of social network applications can be taken from the talent management space. Deploying alumni networks as a talent source is also a great asset. Alumni represent a well-known and relevant population. This provides a great economic benefit from a social network.</p>
<p>If you are running a sales organization and looking at building a pipeline of leads, consider how these leads are relevant. The ability to get more leads is apparent in finding the right person, right connection, and right contact. Underlying everything are productivity and efficiency. How much time are sales reps spending researching and pursuing each opportunity? With information on social networks, the time can be greatly decreased. Knowledge sharing is something that can be actively measured.</p>
<p>The ROI varies with the business issue that&#8217;s trying to be addressed by a particular network. Recruiting for example has a very concrete, measurable ROI. Knowledge share gets a little more tricky. How do you measure how much is shared and the impact on business systems? Businesses need to determine what specific goal they are trying to address.</p>
<p>CFOs want to see ROI, not intuitive information. If you can demonstrate engagement and participation in these networks and knowledge sharing tools, more and more executives are getting comfortable seeing how it&#8217;s used at a qualitative and process level. It&#8217;s a very case by case basis.</p>
<p>One major crisis that we see in our customers is the competition between sales and marketing. Each wants to do their own thing, they go together like oil and water. However, the push of the economy is now forcing them work together. This is a great opportunity for IT to step in and help them collaborate and be more productive.</p>
<p>Other resistance from companies are how to manage what they are trying to accomplish while still giving employees free reign of sites like Facebook. What are the incentives for using these technologies? How does it fit into your company culture and productivity scale? You must bring meaning to the structure of engaging in social networks.</p>
<p>Social networks like LinkedIn and Facebook would not exist if people did not contribute information to them. However, if people don&#8217;t know that it is there, it does not exist. People need to see the value and get drawn in to engage. There are two ways that companies get into social networks. Tie it into the business process. The general idea of social networks are intuitive and easy to understand, which make it an easier case to present to chief executives. Make it clear - how do you go about it and what&#8217;s the value?</p>
<p>Social networks are intrinsically about extending the network, the more contacts you have, the more to choose from when researching a specific contact. It also has to be integrated into your dataworkflow. Companies are going to build a variety of networks inside and outside the enterprise. The big companies (SAP, IBM) are all rushing to offer collaborative and social network functionality. However, this is not entirely useful unless it&#8217;s integrated into the entire infrastructure.</p>
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      <source url="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/interop-ny-the-roi-of-social-networking/09/2008">Interop NY: The ROI of Social Networking</source>
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