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      <title><![CDATA[It makes good sense to just re-install]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[This article offers a different approach to fighting malware infections. There is that stigma that users have with a re-install, they are not familiar with how to do it. Many dont even know if they...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div > This article offers a different approach to fighting malware infections.<br/>There is that stigma that users have with a re-install, they are not familiar with how to do it. Many dont even know if they have a restore CD that may have come with their puter when they bought it. </div>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Rock Phish-ing in December]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Nothing can warm up the hearth of a security researcher than a batch of currently active Rock Phish domains, fast-fluxing by using U.S based malware infected hosts as infrastructure provider. What is...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUqs5QOkBI/AAAAAAAACfw/_V_hnn5FsvY/s1600-h/rock_phishing_december_2008_4.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUqs5QOkBI/AAAAAAAACfw/_V_hnn5FsvY/s200/rock_phishing_december_2008_4.png" /></a>Nothing can warm up the hearth of a security researcher than a batch of currently active Rock Phish domains, fast-fluxing by using U.S based malware&nbsp; infected hosts as infrastructure provider. What is this assessment of currently active Rock Phish campaign aiming to achieve? In short, prove that the people that were Rock Phish-ing at the beginning of the year, are exactly the same people that continue Rock Phish-ing at the end of the year, thereby pointing out that as long as they're not where they're supposed to be, they are not going to stop innovating and working on a higher average online time for their campaigns.<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUurE2no7I/AAAAAAAACf4/knoqvo5_Ruk/s1600-h/rock_phishing_december_2008.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUurE2no7I/AAAAAAAACf4/knoqvo5_Ruk/s200/rock_phishing_december_2008.png" /></a>What's particularly interesting about this campaign, is that compared to previous ones targeting multiple brands, the thousands of malware infected hosts and domains are targeting Alliance &amp; Leicester and Abbey National only.<br />
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Active Rock Phish Domains in fast-flux :<br />
<b>stgsfw7sr .com<br />
q06ciwt60 .com<br />
jnlyf96v4 .com<br />
neegzlh35 .com<br />
7azwmrsg5 .com<br />
pn3ekq976 .com<br />
2coxi8sb6 .com<br />
d8ri1iz5d .com<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUwghNYQnI/AAAAAAAACgI/26zVuduDrUQ/s1600-h/rock_phishing_december_2008_5.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUwghNYQnI/AAAAAAAACgI/26zVuduDrUQ/s200/rock_phishing_december_2008_5.png" /></a><b>ki7wvgauf .com<br />
5nt5r3keh .com<br />
5nt29884j .com<br />
bgoryomek .com<br />
a725jv8ik .com<br />
fke5nnp8m .com<br />
stgsfw7sr .com<br />
10c0ka49t .com<br />
zp304ju3z .com<br />
j0rykafwn .cn<br />
2j1f .net<br />
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confirm-updates .com<br />
paypal.confirm-updates .com<br />
user-data-confirmation .com<br />
paypal.user-data-confirmation .com<br />
capitalone.updating-informations .com</b><br />
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Sample sub-domain structure :<br />
<b>mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.7azwmrsg5 .com<br />
mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.bgoryomek .com<br />
mybank.aliance-leicester.co.uk.stgsfw7sr .com<br />
mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.zp304ju3z .com<br />
mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.5nt29884j .com<br />
mybank.aliance-leicester.co.uk.bgoryomek .com<br />
mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.bgoryomek .com<br />
mybank.aliance-leicester.co.uk.stgsfw7sr .com<br />
mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.stgsfw7sr .com<br />
mybank.aliance-leicester.co.uk.zp304ju3z .com<br />
mybank.alliance-leicester.co.uk.zp304ju3z .com<br />
myonlineaccounts2.abbeynational.co.uk.pn3ekq976 .com<br />
myonlineaccounts1.abeynational.com.pn3ekq976 .com</b><br />
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<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUwTom6U0I/AAAAAAAACgA/EPxpvWuWNnY/s1600-h/rock_phishing_december_2008_3.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUwTom6U0I/AAAAAAAACgA/EPxpvWuWNnY/s200/rock_phishing_december_2008_3.png" /></a>DNS servers for the campaigns :<br />
<b>ns1.thecherrydns .com<br />
ns2.thecherrydns .com <br />
ns3.thecherrydns .com <br />
ns4.thecherrydns .com <br />
ns5.thecherrydns .com <br />
ns6.thecherrydns .com <br />
<br />
ns10.realgoodnameserver .com<br />
ns1.realgoodnameserver .com<br />
rens2.realgoodnameserver .com<br />
rns3.realgoodnameserver .com<br />
ns4.realgoodnameserver .com<br />
ns8.realgoodnameserver .com<br />
<br />
ns6.myboomdns .com<br />
ns4.myboomdns .com</b><br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUw5WuMSYI/AAAAAAAACgQ/VgFTgLTJK58/s1600-h/rock_phishing_december_2008_7.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STUw5WuMSYI/AAAAAAAACgQ/VgFTgLTJK58/s200/rock_phishing_december_2008_7.png" /></a><b>Domains registrant :</b><br />
Name : Pan Wei wei<br />
Organization : Pan Wei wei<br />
Address : BaoChun Rd. 27, No. 3, 1F, Apt. 1903<br />
City : Bejing<br />
Province/State : Beijing<br />
Country : CN<br />
Postal Code : 100176<br />
Phone Number : 010-010-58022118-58022118<br />
Fax : 86-010-58022118-58022118<br />
Email : 127@126.com<br />
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These well known Rock Phish campaigners, have been naturally multitasking on several different underground fronts throughout the year. For instance, their <b>2j1f .net</b> is known to have been <a href="http://www.bobbear.co.uk/morganinvestment.html">hosting money mule company's site</a>, and also, it was used in a previously analyzed <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/06/phishing-campaign-spreading-across.html">phishing campaign that was spreading across Facebook</a> in June. Need more evidence on the consolidation that's been ongoing for over an year and half now? An infamous money mule recruiting company (<b>Cash-Transfers Inc.</b>) was also taking advantage of the <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/07/money-mule-recruiters-use-asproxs-fast.html">fast-flux network offered by the ASProx botnet masters</a> in July.<br />
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As a firm believer in that "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts", the popular "sitting duck" cybercrime infrastructure hosting model will be either replaced by a cybercrime infrastructure relying entirely on legitimate services, or one where the average malware infected Internet user would be temporarily used as a hosting provider.<br />
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If millions were made by using the "sitting duck" hosting model, how many would be made using the others, given that they would inevitably increase the average online time for a malicious campaign?<br />
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<b>Related Rock Phish research :</b><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/09/209-host-locked.html">209 Host Locked</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/12/2091-host-locked.html">209.1 Host Locked</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/11/661-host-locked.html">66.1 Host Locked</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/07/confirm-your-gullibility.html">Confirm Your Gullibility</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/10/assessing-rock-phish-campaign.html">Assessing a Rock Phish Campaign</a><br />
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<b>Related fast-flux research : </b><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/10/fast-flux-spam-and-scams-increasing.html">Fast-Flux Spam and Scams Increasing</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/10/fast-fluxing-yet-another-pharmacy-scam.html">Fast Fluxing Yet Another Pharmacy Scam</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/09/storm-worms-fast-flux-networks.html">Storm Worm's Fast Flux Networks</a><br />
<b> </b><a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/11/managed-fast-flux-provider.html">Managed Fast Flux Provider</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/10/managed-fast-flux-provider-part-two.html">Managed Fast Flux Provider - Part Two</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/07/obfuscating-fast-fluxed-sql-injected.html">Obfuscating Fast Fluxed SQL Injected Domains</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/05/storm-worm-hosting-pharmaceutical-scams.html">Storm Worm Hosting Pharmaceutical Scams</a><br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1122">Fast-Fluxing SQL injection attacks executed from the Asprox botnet</a><div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[Yet Another Web Malware Exploitation Kit in the Wild]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/5caa05f53942f1ddb87a74f20c2c3599</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[With business-minded malicious attackers embracing basic marketing practices like branding, it is becoming increasingly harder, if not pointless to keep track of all XYZ-Packs currently in...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STR4MhsqHZI/AAAAAAAACfY/EnFEn5S9XMY/s1600-h/5Qqp497mdd.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STR4MhsqHZI/AAAAAAAACfY/EnFEn5S9XMY/s200/5Qqp497mdd.png" /></a>With business-minded malicious attackers embracing basic marketing practices like branding, it is becoming increasingly harder, if not pointless to keep track of all XYZ-Packs currently in circulation. How come? Due to their open source nature allowing modifications, claiming copyright over the modified and re-branded kit, the source code of core web malware exploitation kits continue representing the foundation source code for each and every newly released kit.<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STSLw4XodgI/AAAAAAAACfg/0WZInEH3pD4/s1600-h/gPdiZb9b7u_.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STSLw4XodgI/AAAAAAAACfg/0WZInEH3pD4/s200/gPdiZb9b7u_.PNG" /></a>In fact, the practice is becoming so evident, that anecdotal evidence in the form of monitoring ongoing communications between sellers and buyers reveals actual attempts of intellectual property enforcement in the form of&nbsp; exchange of flames between an author of a original kit, and a newly born author who seems to have copied over 80% of his source code, changed the layout, re-branded it, added several more exploits and started pitching it as the most exclusive kit there is available in the underground marketplace.<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STSL6Yo0fFI/AAAAAAAACfo/7OQAGGmvwHg/s1600-h/9CtxtBWp6S_.PNG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/STSL6Yo0fFI/AAAAAAAACfo/7OQAGGmvwHg/s200/9CtxtBWp6S_.PNG" /></a>What's new about this particular kit anyway? Changed iframe and js obfuscation techniques, doesn't require MySQL to run, with several modified Adobe Acrobat and Flash exploits - all patched and publicly obtainable. This is precisely where the marketing pitch ends for the majority of malware kits released during the last quarter. <br />
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As always, there are noticable exceptions to the common wisdom that time-to-underground market isn't allowing them to innovate, but thankfully, these exceptions aren't yet going mainstream. What is going to change in the upcoming 2009? Web malware exploitation kits are slowly maturing into multi-user cybercrime platforms, where traffic management coming from the SQL injected or malware embedded sites is automatically exploited with access to the infected hosts or to the traffic volume in general offered for sale under a flat rate, or on a volume basis.<br />
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Converging traffic management with drive-by exploitation and offering the output for sale, all from a single web interface, is precisely what <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/07/malware-embedded-sites-increasing.html">malicious economies of scale</a> is all about.<br />
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<b>Related posts:</b><br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2217">Cybercriminals release Christmas themed web malware exploitation kit</a><cite></cite><b></b><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/11/new-web-malware-exploitation-kit-in.html">New Web Malware Exploitation Kit in the Wild</a><b></b><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/11/modified-zeus-crimeware-kit-gets.html">Modified Zeus Crimeware Kit Gets a Performance Boost</a><b>&nbsp;</b><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/11/zeus-crimeware-kit-gets-carding-layout.html">Zeus Crimeware Kit Gets a Carding Layout</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/10/web-based-malware-emphasizes-on-anti.html">Web Based Malware Emphasizes on Anti-Debugging Features</a><br />
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<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/10/web-based-malware-eradicates-rootkits.html">Web Based Malware Eradicates Rootkits and Competing Malware</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/09/two-copycat-web-malware-exploitation.html">Two Copycat Web Malware Exploitation Kits in the Wild</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/09/copycat-web-malware-exploitation-kits.html">Copycat Web Malware Exploitation Kits are Faddish</a><br />
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<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-ddos-malware-kit-in-wild.html">A  New DDoS Malware Kit in the Wild</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/05/small-pack-web-malware-exploitation-kit.html">The  Small Pack Web Malware Exploitation Kit</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2006/11/nuclear-grabber-toolkit.html">The  Nuclear Grabber Kit</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/02/rbns-phishing-activities.html">The  Apophis Kit</a><br />
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      <title><![CDATA['60 Minutes': How online gamblers unmasked cheaters]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[In the wild, wild west, when a poker player was caught cheating it was a capital offense, with the punishment quickly dispensed right across the card table. But today if you're caught cheating in the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[In the wild, wild west, when a poker player was caught cheating it was a capital offense, with the punishment quickly dispensed right across the card table. But today if you're caught cheating in the popular and lucrative world of Internet poker, you may get away scot-free.<img src="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/digg/topic/security/popular/~4/8MjCzbLzjLU" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[Lessons from Mumbai]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[I'm still reading about the Mumbai terrorist attacks, and I expect it'll be a long time before we get a lot of the details. What we know is horrific, and my sympathy goes out to the survivors of the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm still reading about the Mumbai terrorist attacks, and I expect it'll be a long time before we get a lot of the details.  What we know is horrific, and my sympathy goes out to the survivors of the dead (and the injured, who often seem to get ignored as people focus on death tolls).  Without discounting the awfulness of the events, I have some initial observations:</p>

<ul><li>Low-tech is very effective.  <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-087.html">Movie-plot threats</a> -- terrorists with crop dusters, terrorists with biological agents, terrorists targeting our water supplies -- might be what people worry about, but a bunch of trained (we don't really know yet what sort of training they had, but it's clear that they <a href="http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24726093-954,00.html">had some</a>) men with guns and grenades is all they needed.

<p><li>At the same time, the attacks were surprisingly ineffective.  I can't find exact numbers, but it seems there were about 18 terrorists.  The latest toll is 195 dead, 235 wounded.  That's 11 dead, 13 wounded, per terrorist.  As horrible as the reality is, that's much less than you might have thought if you imagined the movie in your head.  Reality is <a href="http://www.pebbleandavalanche.com/weblog/2008/11/30/blog-20081130T1857">different</a> from the movies.</p>

<p><li>Even so, terrorism is rare.  If a bunch of men with guns and grenades is all they really need, then why isn't this sort of terrorism more common?  Why not in the U.S., where it's easy to get hold of weapons?  It's because terrorism is very, very rare.</p>

<p><li>Specific countermeasures don't help against these attacks.  None of the high-priced countermeasures that defend against specific tactics and specific targets made, or would have made, any difference: photo ID checks, confiscating liquids at airports, fingerprinting foreigners at the border, bag screening on public transportation, anything.  Even<a href="http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/29/Executive_says_Taj_hotel_warned_of_attack/UPI-97361228007685/">metal detectors and threat warnings</a> didn't do any good:</p>

<blockquote>"If I look at what we had, which all of us complained about, it could not have stopped what took place," he told CNN. "It's ironic that we did have such a warning, and we did have some measures."

<p>He said people were told to park away from the entrance and had to go through a metal detector. But he said the attackers came through a back entrance.</p>

<p>"They knew what they were doing, and they did not go through the front. All of our arrangements are in the front," he said.</blockquote></ul></p>

<p>If there's any lesson in these attacks, it's not to focus too much on the specifics of the attacks.  Of course, that's not the way we're programmed to think.  We <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-171.html">respond to stories</a> and not analysis.  I don't mean to be sympathetic; this tendency is human and these deaths are really tragic.  But eighteen armed people intent on killing lots of innocents will be able to do just that, and last-line-of-defense countermeasures won't be able to stop them.  Intelligence, investigation, and emergency response.  We have to find and stop the terrorists before they attack, and deal with the aftermath of the attacks we don't stop.  There really is no other way, and I hope that we don't let the tragedy lead us into unwise decisions about how to deal with terrorism.</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 05:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Vulnerabilities and Office Versions]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/33580f773ea9bcdfab98d5db31b1fd04</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Most of the ink on Microsoft vulnerability coverage goes to browsers and operating systems, but in a way the best progress vulnerabilities have made has been in Microsoft Office. Some of the great...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Most of the ink on Microsoft vulnerability coverage goes to browsers and operating systems, but in a way the best progress vulnerabilities have made has been in Microsoft Office. Some of the great attacks of all time (remember LoveLetter?) have been through Office bugs, and I believe most targeted attacks over the last few years have utilized vulnerabilities in Office document parsers.

That's why it's encouraging that Microsoft has done a much better job in making current versions of Office secure, as <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/david_leblanc/archive/2008/11/17/improvements-in-office-security.aspx">David LeBlanc's recent blog shows</a>. He claims that the company has really stepped up the security testing for Office 2003 SP3 and Office 2007, and that it shows up in the number of reported vulnerabilities. The trend is clear: There are about half as many vulnerabilities as for earlier versions.

There may be a little flaw in the analysis in that LeBlanc studied reports during the period from 9/18/2007 to 11/17/2008. By that time earlier Office versions had been around for a long time and many vulnerabilities had already been reported on them. But even so, it makes the numbers all the more impressive for the new versions; the older ones had already had the low-hanging fruit picked clean and yet they still had CVE numbers in excess of the new ones. It seems there is no low-hanging vulnerability fruit in new versions of Office.

Are you running an old version of Office? Are you running Office 2003 SP2, which <a href="http://blogs.eweek.com/cheap_hack/content/office/office_2003_sp2_approaching_end_of_life.html">reached the end of support life in October</a>? If so, you are exposing yourself to more known threats than you may think.

Office versions are not plug-and-play interchangeable. It's unfortunate that Microsoft saw fit to accompany Office 2007's security enhancements with a radical user interface change. I personally have gotten used to it, but I can see an enterprise being intimidated by the training it would necessitate.

If you feel you're stuck in Office 2003, at the very least it's irresponsible to linger on in an old service pack. Do what you can to move on to SP3.
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      <title><![CDATA[Zermatt is now Geneva Framework]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/ffdbf806596ce2b9eecd4ab50a7394dc</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[For those who didn't attend PDC, the Zermatt identity framework has been re-code-named Geneva Framework so that it fits in with the Geneva family of products
Geneva Framework : a .NET class library...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who didn&#39;t attend PDC, the <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/blogs/keith/archive/2008/07/09/introducing-microsoft-code-name-zermatt.aspx">Zermatt identity framework</a> has been re-code-named Geneva Framework so that it fits in with the <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/geneva" target="_blank">Geneva family of products</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/card/archive/2008/11/04/microsoft-geneva-framework.aspx" target="_blank">Geneva Framework</a>: a .NET class library called Microsoft.IdentityModel (basically it&#39;s an updated Zermatt)</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/card/archive/2008/11/04/geneva-server-beta.aspx" target="_blank">Geneva Server</a>: This is essentially ADFS v2, built on top of the Geneva Framework</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/card/archive/2008/11/18/the-cardspace-geneva-selection-experience.aspx" target="_blank">Geneva CardSpace</a>: This is CardSpace v2.</p>
<p>This link takes you to the &quot;Geneva&quot; landing page at Microsoft, where you&#39;ll find links to all of the bits, as well as the whitepaper v2. The new version of the whitepaper was co-authored by myself and a PM on the Geneva Framework team, Sesha Mani, who added a bunch of new details based on the PDC version of the framework.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=55244" width="1" height="1">]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 11:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Gmail security and recent phishing activity]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/9a45bb9bbae6a2b37196f35b1390b206</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Posted by Chris Evans

We've seen some speculation recently about a purported security vulnerability in Gmail and the theft of several website owners' domains by unauthorized third parties. At Google...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<span class="byline-author">Posted by Chris Evans</span><br /><br />We've seen some speculation recently about a purported security vulnerability in Gmail and the theft of several website owners' domains by unauthorized third parties. At Google we're committed to providing secure products, and we mounted an immediate investigation. Our results indicate no evidence of a Gmail vulnerability.<br /><br />With help from affected users, we determined that the cause was a phishing scheme, a common method used by malicious actors to trick people into sharing their sensitive information. Attackers sent customized e-mails encouraging web domain owners to visit fraudulent websites such as "google-hosts.com" that they set up purely to harvest usernames and passwords. These fake sites had no affiliation with Google, and the ones we've seen are now offline. Once attackers gained the user credentials, they were free to modify the affected accounts as they desired. In this case, the attacker set up mail filters specifically designed to forward messages from web domain providers.<br /><br />Several news stories referenced a <a title="domain theft from December 2007" href="http://www.davidairey.com/google-gmail-security-hijack/" id="d.kh">domain theft from December 2007</a> that was incorrectly linked to a Gmail CSRF vulnerability</span>. We did have a Gmail CSRF bug reported to us in September 2007 that we fixed and deployed worldwide within 24 hours of private disclosure of the bug details. We know of no affected users. Neither this bug nor any other Gmail bug was involved in the December 2007 domain theft.<br /><br />We recognize how many people depend on Gmail, and we strive to make it as secure as possible. At this time, we'd like to thank the wider security community for working with us to achieve this goal. We're always looking at new ways to enhance Gmail security. For example, we recently gave users the option to <a href="http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/making-security-easier.html" id="murn" title="always connect via https">always run their entire session using https</a>.<br /><br />To keep your Google account secure online, we recommend you only ever enter your Gmail sign-in credentials to web addresses starting with https://www.google.com/accounts, and never click-through any warnings your browser may raise about certificates. For more information on how to stay safe from phishing attacks, see our blog post <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/how-to-avoid-getting-hooked.html" id="o8q2" title="here">here</a>.<div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[ Here Comes Everybody Review]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/639cf7107fd08bc70488e1f27a8ec2a3</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[In 1937, Ronald Coase answered one of the most perplexing questions in economics: if markets are so great, why do organizations exist? Why don't people just buy and sell their own services in a market...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1937, Ronald Coase answered one of the most perplexing questions in economics: if markets are so great, why do organizations exist? Why don't people just buy and sell their own services in a market instead? Coase, who won the 1991 Nobel Prize in Economics, answered the question by noting a market's transaction costs: buyers and sellers need to find one another, then reach agreement, and so on. The Coase theorem implies that if these transaction costs are low enough, direct markets of individuals make a whole lot of sense. But if they are too high, it makes more sense to get the job done by an organization that hires people. </p>

<p>Economists have long understood the corollary concept of Coase's ceiling, a point above which organizations collapse under their own weight -- where hiring someone, however competent, means more work for everyone else than the new hire contributes. Software projects often bump their heads against Coase's ceiling: recall Frederick P. Brooks Jr.'s seminal study, <cite>The Mythical Man-Month</cite> (Addison-Wesley, 1975), which showed how adding another person onto a project can slow progress and increase errors. </p>

<p>What's new is something consultant and social technologist Clay Shirky calls &quot;Coase's Floor,&quot; below which we find projects and activities that aren't worth their organizational costs -- things so esoteric, so frivolous, so nonsensical, or just so thoroughly unimportant that no organization, large or small, would ever bother with them. Things that you shake your head at when you see them and think, &quot;That's ridiculous.&quot;</p>

<p>Sounds a lot like the Internet, doesn't it? And that's precisely Shirky's point. His new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1594201536/counterpane/"><cite>Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing Without Organizations</cite></a>, explores a world where organizational costs are close to zero and where ad hoc, loosely connected groups of unpaid amateurs can create an encyclopedia larger than the Britannica and a computer operating system to challenge Microsoft's. </p>

<p>Shirky teaches at New York University's Interactive Telecommunications Program, but this is no academic book. Sacrificing rigor for readability, <cite>Here Comes Everybody</cite> is an entertaining as well as informative romp through some of the Internet's signal moments -- the Howard Dean phenomenon, Belarusian protests organized on LiveJournal, the lost cellphone of a woman named Ivanna, Meetup.com, flash mobs, Twitter, and more -- which Shirky uses to illustrate his points. </p>

<p>The book is filled with bits of insight and common sense, explaining why young people take better advantage of social tools, how the Internet affects social change, and how most Internet discourse falls somewhere between dinnertime conversation and publishing. </p>

<p>Shirky notes that &quot;most user-generated content isn't 'content' at all, in the sense of being created for general consumption, any more than a phone call between you and a sibling is 'family-generated content.' Most of what gets created on any given day is just the ordinary stuff of life -- gossip, little updates, thinking out loud -- but now it's done in the same medium as professionally produced material. Unlike professionally produced material, however, Internet content can be organized after the fact.&quot; </p>

<p>No one coordinates Flickr's 6 million to 8 million users. Yet Flickr had the first photos from the 2005 London Transport bombings, beating the traditional news media. Why? People with cellphone cameras uploaded their photos to Flickr. They coordinated themselves using tools that Flickr provides. This is the sort of impromptu organization the Internet is ideally suited for. Shirky explains how these moments are harbingers of a future that can self-organize without formal hierarchies. </p>

<p>These nonorganizations allow for contributions from a wider group of people. A newspaper has to pay someone to take photos; it can't be bothered to hire someone to stand around London underground stations waiting for a major event. Similarly, Microsoft has to pay a programmer full time, and <cite>Encyclopedia Britannica</cite> has to pay someone to write articles. But Flickr can make use of a person with just one photo to contribute, Linux can harness the work of a programmer with little time, and Wikipedia benefits if someone corrects just a single typo. These aggregations of millions of actions that were previously below the Coasean floor have enormous potential. </p>

<p>But a flash mob is still a mob. In a world where the Coasean floor is at ground level, all sorts of organizations appear, including ones you might not like: violent political organizations, hate groups, Holocaust deniers, and so on. (Shirky's discussion of teen anorexia support groups makes for very disturbing reading.) This has considerable implications for security, both online and off. </p>

<p>We never realized how much our security could be attributed to distance and inconvenience -- how difficult it is to recruit, organize, coordinate, and communicate without formal organizations. That inadvertent measure of security is now gone. Bad guys, from hacker groups to terrorist groups, will use the same ad hoc organizational technologies that the rest of us do. And while there has been some success in closing down individual Web pages, discussion groups, and blogs, these are just stopgap measures. </p>

<p>In the end, a virtual community is still a community, and it needs to be treated as such. And just as the best way to keep a neighborhood safe is for a policeman to walk around it, the best way to keep a virtual community safe is to have a virtual police presence. </p>

<p>Crime isn't the only danger; there is also isolation. If people can segregate themselves in ever-increasingly specialized groups, then they're less likely to be exposed to alternative ideas. We see a mild form of this in the current political trend of rival political parties having their own news sources, their own narratives, and their own facts. Increased radicalization is another danger lurking below the Coasean floor. </p>

<p>There's no going back, though. We've all figured out that the Internet makes freedom of speech a much harder right to take away. As Shirky demonstrates, Web 2.0 is having the same effect on freedom of assembly. The consequences of this won't be fully seen for years. </p>

<p><cite>Here Comes Everybody</cite> covers some of the same ground as Yochai Benkler's <cite>Wealth of Networks</cite>. But when I had to explain to one of my corporate attorneys how the Internet has changed the nature of public discourse, Shirky's book is the one I recommended.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/sep08/6631">previously appeared</a> in <i>IEEE Spectrum</i>.</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When he becomes president, Barack Obama will have to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/politics/16blackberry.html">give up</a> his BlackBerry.  Aides are concerned that his unofficial conversations would become part of the presidential record, subject to subpoena and eventually made public as part of the country's historical record.</p>

<p>This reality of the information age might be particularly stark for the president, but it's no less true for all of us.  Conversation used to be ephemeral.  Whether face-to-face or by phone, we could be reasonably sure that what we said disappeared as soon as we said it. Organized crime bosses worried about phone taps and room bugs, but that was the exception.  Privacy was just assumed.</p>

<p>This has changed.  We chat in e-mail, over SMS and IM, and on social networking websites like Facebook, MySpace, and LiveJournal.  We blog and we Twitter.  These conversations -- with friends, lovers, colleagues, members of our cabinet -- are not ephemeral; they <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-109.html">leave their own electronic trails</a>.</p>

<p>We know this intellectually, but we haven't truly internalized it.  We type on, engrossed in conversation, forgetting we're being recorded and those recordings might come back to haunt us later.</p>

<p>Oliver North learned this, way back in 1987, when messages he thought he had deleted were saved by the White House PROFS system, and then subpoenaed in the Iran-Contra affair.  Bill Gates learned this in 1998 when his conversational e-mails were provided to opposing counsel as part of the antitrust litigation discovery process.  Mark Foley learned this in 2006 when his instant messages were <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/BrianRoss/story?id=2509586">saved and made public</a> by the underage men he talked to.  Paris Hilton learned this in 2005 when her cell phone account was <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/19/AR2005051900711.html">hacked</a>, and Sarah Palin learned it earlier this year when her Yahoo e-mail account was hacked.  Someone in George W. Bush's administration learned this, and <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/13/white.house.email/index.html">millions of e-mails</a> went mysteriously and conveniently missing.</p>

<p>Ephemeral conversation is dying.</p>

<p>Cardinal Richelieu famously said, :If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged."  When all our ephemeral conversations can be saved for later examination, different rules have to apply.  Conversation is not the same thing as correspondence.  Words uttered in haste over morning coffee, whether spoken in a coffee shop or thumbed on a Blackberry, are not official pronouncements.  Discussions in a meeting, whether held in a boardroom or a chat room, are not the same as answers at a press conference.  And privacy isn't just about having something to hide; it <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-114.html">has enormous value</a> to democracy, liberty, and our basic humanity.</p>

<p>We can't turn back technology; electronic communications are here to stay and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy">even our voice conversations are threatened</a>.  But as technology makes our conversations less ephemeral, we need laws to step in and safeguard ephemeral conversation.  We need a comprehensive data privacy law, protecting our data and communications regardless of where it is stored or how it is processed. We need laws forcing companies to keep it private and delete it as soon as it is no longer needed.  Laws requiring ISPs to store e-mails and other personal communications are exactly what we don't need.</p>

<p>Rules pertaining to government need to be different, because of the <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-208.html">power differential</a>.  Subjecting the president's communications to eventual public review increases liberty because it reduces the government's power with respect to the people.  Subjecting our communications to government review decreases liberty because it reduces our power with respect to the government.  The president, as well as other members of government, need some ability to converse ephemerally -- just as they're allowed to have unrecorded meetings and phone calls -- but more of their actions need to be subject to public scrutiny.</p>

<p>But laws can only go so far.  Law or no law, when something is made public it's too late.  And many of us like having complete records of all our e-mail at our fingertips; it's like our offline brains.</p>

<p>In the end, this is cultural.</p>

<p>The Internet is the greatest generation gap since rock and roll.  We're now witnessing one aspect of that generation gap: the younger generation chats digitally, and the older generation treats those chats as written correspondence.  Until our CEOs blog, our Congressmen Twitter, and our world leaders send each other LOLcats &ndash; until we have a Presidential election where both candidates have a complete history on social networking sites from before they were teenagers&ndash; we aren't fully an information age society.</p>

<p>When everyone leaves a public digital trail of their personal thoughts since birth, no one will think twice about it being there.  Obama might be on the younger side of the generation gap, but the rules he's operating under were written by the older side.  It will take another generation before society's tolerance for digital ephemera changes.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122722381368945937.html">previously appeared</a> on <ui>The Wall Street Journal</a> website (not the print newspaper), and is an update of <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-129.html">something I wrote previously</a>.</p><div class="feedflare">
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