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    <pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 13:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Corporate Identity Theft]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/57c21b4d57a8ae63a7ec8f43043877e8</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I remember a talk by the value investor Mason Hawkins (Longleaf Funds) where someone asked him about investing overseas. He answered that he does, but mainly in places where the British flag flew at...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a <a href="http://www.bengrahaminvesting.ca/Resources/videos.htm#hawkins">talk</a>&#160;by the value investor&#160;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mason_Hawkins">Mason Hawkins</a>&#160;(Longleaf Funds) where someone asked him about investing overseas. He answered that he does, but mainly in places where the British flag flew at some point, where there is a rule of law. Here is one example of what he is worried about and why investing in places where your assets have no legal protection does not give the investor a margin of safety.</p><div>Hermitage Fund was until recently the largest fund in Russia. From the Business Week story<a href="http://hermitagefund.com/index.pl/news/article.html?id=895"> &quot;Hijacking the Hermitage Fund&quot;</a></div><br /><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p>Corruption, intimidation, robbery, violent assault, forgery, large-scale fraud. No, not the subject of the latest John Grisham novel, but sensational allegations, made public Apr. 4 by Hermitage Capital Management -- until recently the largest foreign portfolio investor in Russia. In a detailed and damning report, titled Criminal Justice -- Russian-Style, Hermitage alleges the fund&#39;s Russian subsidiaries have fallen victim to an elaborate con designed to defraud the fund of hundreds of millions of dollars.&#160;<br />&#160;&#160;<br />The most sensational part of Hermitage&#39;s allegations is that the attempted larceny was carried out with the direct connivance of officials in the Russian police. Hermitage alleges the police seized documents and equipment that were instrumental to the attempted fraud, which involved bogus court cases based on forged documents, the aim of which was to sue Hermitage subsidiaries for hundreds of millions of dollars. &quot;The most shocking thing is not that there are corporate raiders in Russia who attempt to steal your shares,&quot; says Jamison Firestone, managing partner of Firestone Duncan, Hermitage&#39;s law firm. &quot;The shocking thing is that the police worked hand-in-hand with them, and actually performed the theft of the documents so that the corporate raiders could then do their work.&quot;</p></blockquote><div><br /><div>From the most recent Hermitage Fund letter, here is the current state:</div><br /><br /></div><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><p>So the two-pronged scam worked in one area and failed in another. The perpetrators weren’t able to steal the assets from us based on the fake court claims, but they were able to steal $230 million from the Russian government by filing amended tax returns on behalf of our stolen companies. What makes this story even more shocking is that we filed six 255-page criminal complaints with the Russian authorities in December last year, one month before the tax fraud took place, and they did nothing to stop it. Two complaints were sent to the Russian General Prosecutor, two to the Russian State Investigative Committee and two to the Internal Affairs Department of the Interior Ministry. There was enough information to prevent the fraud and indict a number of people behind it if the government had acted.&#160;</p><p>Instead of doing anything to save the Russian state from this highly sophisticated and organized looting, two of our complaints were thrown out immediately; two were returned to the same Interior Ministry official we were complaining about (essentially, he was being asked to “investigate himself”); and one was thrown out for “lack of any crime committed.” Only one complaint was taken seriously. It was taken up by the Russian State Investigative Committee in early February, but before it could get any traction, the case was lowered to the South region of the Moscow district of the State Investigative Committee (the lowest level of the Committee) and by June, another senior Interior Ministry official whom we had named in our complaint had joined the “investigation” team (again, to “investigate himself”). To this day there has been no serious response by the Russian authorities to this massive fraud against the Russian state.&#160;</p><p>As we described in our April letter, the problem of corporate “raiding” is now so endemic in Russia that President Medvedev speaks about it as one of the biggest problems faced by Russian businesses. In this case, raiders have taken this problem to a new and absurd extreme by “raiding” the Russian state itself and so far getting away with it. Together with HSBC, we will shortly be filing new criminal complaints with the Russian General Prosecutor and Russian State Investigative Committee as well as with many law enforcement authorities outside of Russia. It is hard to predict what will happen next in this unfolding and unbelievable saga, but as always we will keep you updated on any further developments as they arise.</p></blockquote><blockquote class="webkit-indent-blockquote" style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><br /></blockquote><p>Of course we see individual identity theft on a regular basis (actually as Ross Anderson points out its not really identity theft but poor controls on the bank&#39;s parts using SSNs as secrets and so on), but you dont see a major corporation stolen every day.</p>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://1raindrop.typepad.com/1_raindrop/2008/08/corporate-identity-theft.html">Corporate Identity Theft</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Vendor management advice for CIOs (expert video)]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/bd59316dcaff2cea76fc54ed27bd91f8</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Vendor management skills are a must have for CIOs. Learn more from Forrester Research Inc.'s Christine Ferrusi...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Vendor management skills are a must have for CIOs. Learn more from Forrester Research Inc.'s Christine Ferrusi Ross.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhatisEnterpriseItTipsAndExpertAdvice/~4/341735514" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/vendor management skills">vendor management skills</category>
      <category domain="http://securityratty.com/tag/christine ferrusi ross">christine ferrusi ross</category>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/WhatisEnterpriseItTipsAndExpertAdvice/~3/341735514/0,295582,sid182_gci1321556,00.html">Vendor management advice for CIOs (expert video)</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Personal Internet Security: follow-up report]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/10f2e3eb0d6b59a6e2ed5ddb330021f9</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[The House of Lords Science and Technology Committee have just completed a follow-up inquiry into Personal Internet Security, and their report is published here . Once again I have acted as their...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The House of Lords Science and Technology Committee have just completed a follow-up inquiry into &#8220;Personal Internet Security&#8221;, and <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldsctech/131/131.pdf">their report is published here</a>. Once again I have acted as their specialist adviser, and once again I&#8217;m under no obligation to endorse the Committee&#8217;s conclusions &#8212; but they have once again produced a useful report with sound conclusions, so I&#8217;m very happy to promote it!</p>
<p>Their <a href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200607/ldselect/ldsctech/165/165i.pdf">initial report last summer</a>, which <a href="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2007/08/10/house-of-lords-inquiry-personal-internet-security/">I blogged about at the time</a>, was &#8212; almost entirely &#8212; <a href="http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/cm72/7234/7234.pdf">rejected by the Government</a> last autumn (<a href="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2007/10/29/government-ignores-personal-internet-security/">blog article here</a>).</p>
<p>The Committee decided that in the light of the Government&#8217;s antipathy they would hold a rapid follow-up inquiry to establish whether their conclusions were sound or whether the Government was right to turn them down, and indeed, given the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_time">speed of change on the Internet</a>, whether their recommendations were still timely.</p>
<p>The written responses broadly endorsed the Committee&#8217;s recommendations, with the main areas of controversy being liability for software vendors, making the banks statutorily responsible for phishing/skimming fraud, and how such fraud should be reported.</p>
<p>There was one oral session where, to everyone&#8217;s surprise, two Government ministers turned up and were extremely conciliatory. Baroness Vadera (BERR) said that the report &#8220;<em>was somewhat more interesting than our response</em>&#8221; and Vernon Coaker (Home Office) apologised to the Committee &#8220;<em>if they felt that our response was overdefensive</em>&#8221; adding &#8220;<em>the report that was produced by this Committee a few months ago now has actually helped drive the agenda forward and certainly the resubmission of evidence and the re-thinking that that has caused has also helped with respect to that. So may I apologise to all of you; it is no disrespect to the Committee or to any of the members.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>I got the impression that the ministers were more impressed with the Committee&#8217;s report than were the civil servants who had drafted the Government&#8217;s previous formal response. Just maybe, some of my comments <a href="http://www.bcs.org/server.php?show=conWebDoc.20041">made a difference</a>?</p>
<p>Given this volte face, the Committee&#8217;s follow-up report is also conciliatory, whilst recognising that the new approach is very much in the &#8220;<a href="http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/211400.html">jam tomorrow</a>&#8221; category &#8212; we will all have to wait to see if they deliver.</p>
<p>The report is still in favour of <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2007/01/information_sec_1.html">software vendor liability</a> as a long term strategy to improving software security, and on a <a href="http://www.ncsl.org/programs/lis/cip/priv/breach.htm">security breach notification law</a> the report says &#8220;<em>we hold to our view that data security breach notification legislation would have the twin impacts of increasing incentives on businesses to avoid data loss, and should a breach occur, giving individuals timely information so that they can reduce the risk to themselves</em>&#8220;. The headlines have been about the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7103566.stm">data lost by the Government</a>, but <a href="http://www.scmagazineuk.com/Data-watchdog-admits-to-deluge-of-Central-Government-breach-info/article/112079/">recent figures from the ICO</a> show that private industry is doing pretty badly as well.</p>
<p>The report also revisits the recommendations relating to banking, reiterating the committee&#8217;s view that &#8220;<em>the liability of banks for losses incurred by electronic fraud should be underpinned by legislation rather than by the Banking Code</em>&#8220;. The reasoning is simple, the banks choose the security mechanisms and how much effort they put into detecting patterns of fraud, so they should stand the losses if these systems fail. Holding individuals liable for succumbing to ever more sophisticated attacks is neither fair, nor economically efficient. The Committee also remained concerned that where fraud does take place, reports are made to the banks, <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6224912.stm">who then choose whether or not to forward them to the police</a>. They describe this approach as &#8220;<em>wholly unsatisfactory and that it risks undermining public trust in the police and the Internet</em>&#8220;.</p>
<p>This is quite a short report, a mere 36 paragraphs, but comes bundled with the responses received, all of which from Ross Anderson and Nicholas Bohm, through to the Metropolitan Police and Symantec are well worth reading to understand more about a complex problem, yet one where we&#8217;re beginning to see the first glimmers of consensus as to how best to move forward.</p>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 09:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/07/08/personal-internet-security-follow-up-report/">Personal Internet Security: follow-up report</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[PCI, PII, a Roofer and a SSN]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/8869a96a4e3a74da407751302fcaa875</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Yet another J! True Security Story for you
This weekend I met with a roofer at my rental property to take measurements, see what needed to be done and get an estimate. When we met at noon, it was over...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Yet another J! True Security Story for you&#8230;</strong></p><p><strong>This weekend I met with a roofer </strong>at my rental property to take measurements, see what needed to be done and get an estimate.&nbsp;When we met at noon, it&nbsp;was over 100 degrees&nbsp;there in central&nbsp;North Carolina and we spent just short of 3 hours going over everything. </p><p><strong>The roofer</strong>, let&#8217;s call him Ross,&nbsp;was from one of the larger commercial home improvement stores. This particular store was offering a consumer credit program with 12 months interest-free financing. There was also a full window replacement project to follow right behind the roof. While I was prepared to pay cash for the roof and/or windows, the no-interest option offered an advantage, so I read the terms and conditions and gave the go-ahead. </p><p><strong>Before I realized what was going on</strong>, my friendly roofer Ross was filling out a consumer credit card application for me. I remembered thinking this was odd, as we leaned against his truck, still outside in the heat. I think I mumbled something to the effect of &#8220;<em>oh, it&#8217;s strange they make you guys do this part too</em>..&#8221;. He had asked for all the usuals- my current and previous addresses, annual income and - of course- my Social Security Number. And, after standing in 100+ degree heat for 3 hours, I gave it all&nbsp;to him without batting an eye.&nbsp;As soon as he had it all, he called into to the mothership and was processing my credit app over the phone as I stood by to answer any new questions.</p><p><strong>This day</strong> happened to be Ross&#8217;s wife&#8217;s birthday and they had some afternoon plans once our appointment was over. I was his last appointment of the day before he headed home to the missus for her birthday celebrations. I thanked him for his time, wished him a happy weekend and went on about my day. </p><p><strong>What was&nbsp;wrong with this picture?</strong> I didn&#8217;t quite figure it out until a tall glass of tea cooled me down and returned my brain to normal operating temperature.&nbsp;What in the name of security did I just do? <strong>All </strong>my information (including&nbsp;my new credit card number)&nbsp;was written down on that credit form and tucked into his little notepad with the other miscellaneous papers, product glossies and forms he was carrying around&#8230; in his personal truck&#8230; on a weekend&#8230; <em>D&#8217;OH</em>.</p><p>I&#8217;m sure it will be fine (that&#8217;s what we all tell ourselves, right?). But in the off chance something happens&#8230; well, let&#8217;s not even go there. </p><p># # #</p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.securityuncorked.com/security-uncorked/2008/6/9/pci-pii-a-roofer-and-a-ssn.html">PCI, PII, a Roofer and a SSN</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[TPM to End Piracy]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/2961eb5a5520579a7aa4c9520e85af36</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Ha ha ha ha. Famous last words from Atari founder Nolan Bushnell: &quot;There is a stealth encryption chip called a TPM that is going on the motherboards of most of the computers that are coming out now,&quot;...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha ha.  <a href="http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/encryption-chip-will-end-piracy-open-markets-says-bushnell">Famous last words</a> from Atari founder Nolan Bushnell:</p>

<blockquote>"There is a stealth encryption chip called a TPM that is going on the motherboards of most of the computers that are coming out now," he pointed out

<p>"What that says is that in the games business we will be able to encrypt with an absolutely verifiable private key in the encryption world -- which is uncrackable by people on the internet and by giving away passwords -- which will allow for a huge market to develop in some of the areas where piracy has been a real problem."</blockquote></p>

<p>"TPM" stands for "Trusted Platform Module."  It's a chip that is probably already in your computer and may someday be used to enforce security: both your security, and the security of software and media companies against you.  The system is complicated, and while it will prevent some attacks, there are lots of ways to hack it. (I've written about TPM <a href="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2005/08/trusted_computi.html">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram-0208.html#1">here</a> when Microsoft called it Palladium.  Ross Anderson has some good stuff <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html">here</a>.)</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 02:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/tpm_to_end_pira.html">TPM to End Piracy</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[PED vulnerability paper receives Most Practical Paper award at Oakland]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/eea6ca7b795ea19bfe0c3d0a2f5ab334</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[In February, Steven Murdoch, Ross Anderson and I reported our findings on system-level failures of widely deployed PIN Entry Devices (PED) and the Chip and PIN scheme as a whole. Steven is in Oakland...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In February, Steven Murdoch, Ross Anderson and I <a href="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/02/26/chip-pin-terminals-vulnerable-to-simple-attacks/">reported our findings</a> on system-level failures of widely deployed PIN Entry Devices (PED) and the Chip and PIN scheme as a whole. Steven is in Oakland presenting the work described in our <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/techreports/UCAM-CL-TR-711.pdf">paper</a> at the <a href="http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2008/oakland08.html">IEEE Symposium on Security and Privacy</a> (<a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/talks/oakland08tamper.pdf">slides</a>).</p>
<p>We are very pleased that we are the recipients of the new &#8220;<a href="http://www.ieee-security.org/TC/SP2008/oakland08-cfp.html">Most Practical Paper</a>&#8221; award of the conference, given to &#8220;the paper most likely to immediately improve the security of current environments and systems&#8221;. Thanks to everyone who supported this work!</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/award.jpg"><img alt="IEEE Security &#038; Privacy Magazine Award" src="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/award_sm.jpg"></a></p>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/05/21/ped-vulnerability-paper-receives-most-practical-paper-award-at-oakland/">PED vulnerability paper receives Most Practical Paper award at Oakland</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[HP buying EDS- Offensive to IBM or defensive to Indian firms?]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/f7d2a354cab6767f200974fb07a1a1ee</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Saw the big news today about HP maybe buying EDS in a deal rumored to be in the 12 to 13 billion dollar range. That is a fat 35%+ premium over what it was trading at before rumors of the deal were...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080512/bs_nm/eds_hewlettpackard_dc">big news</a> today about HP maybe buying EDS in a deal rumored to be in the 12 to 13 billion dollar range.  That is a fat 35%+ premium over what it was trading at before rumors of the deal were announced.  Most of the commentary I have seen positions this deal as HP making a move to better compete with IBM.  While I agree that is certainly an angle to this deal, I think another important angle is keeping HP ahead of the pack of large Indian services firms that have been expanding world-wide over the last few years.  In the global marketplace for IT services and consulting, HP and IBM may be the American based entries in a world-wide competition with Infosys, Tata, and other firms from India, China and the rest of the world..  For this reason I think it is a good move by HP to shore up a solid second place behind IBM.<br><br>I should mention that at StillSecure we partner with both companies and I have had a chance to work with both of them.  EDS is certainly not the powerhouse it was 10 years ago, let alone in the Ross Perot/GM heyday.  Like any company that size it is hard to make rapid change with the amount of inertia built into the system.  However, they have been in turn around mode for several years and perhaps HP can make this buy with EDS on the way up. One thing for sure is Mark Hurd, HP CEO is remaking this company in his own wishes if not image.  So far everything he has touched there has turned out well, so lets see what he can do with EDS's 2.8% average year to year growth. He will have to do better for this deal to be considered a success.<br></p>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/StillsecureAfterAllTheseYears/~3/289090599/hp-buying-eds-.html">HP buying EDS- Offensive to IBM or defensive to Indian firms?</source>
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      <description><![CDATA[Nice work by Francois Paget (hattip Andrew Jaquith ) pulling together underground economy's willingness to pay up for quality Last Friday morning in France, my investigations lead me to visit a site...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.avertlabs.com/research/blog/index.php/2008/05/07/you-have-to-pay-for-quality/">Nice work by Francois Paget</a> (hattip <a href="http://securitymetrics.org/content/Wiki.jsp">Andrew Jaquith</a>) pulling together underground economy's willingness to pay up for quality</p>

<blockquote>Last Friday morning in France, my investigations lead me to visit a site proposing top-quality data for a higher price than usual. But when we look at this data we understand that as everywhere, you have to pay for quality. The first offer concerned bank logons. As you can see in the following screenshot, pricing depends on available balance, bank organization and country. Additional information such as PIN and Transfer Passphrase are also given when necessary:
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<p>Since financial services drives a lot of the information security industry it is fair to ask - are they doing a very good job at securing systems and data or are they just moving more risk on to the consumer? In 2008, should we be telling people to type usernames and password into web forms and the use those "secrets" (cough, cough) to make business decisions? </p>

<p>Weak identity = weak claim = weak access control.</p>

<p>From Ross Anderson's <a href="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/04/27/second-edition/">book</a> (2nd edition)</p>

<blockquote>Were I designing an online banking system now, I would invest most of the security budget in the back end.</blockquote>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[ Security Engineering , by Ross Anderson]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[I just received the second edition of Ross Anderson's Security Engineering in the mail. It's beautiful
This is the best book on the topic there is, and I recommend it to everyone working in this field...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received the second edition of Ross Anderson's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Security-Engineering-Building-Dependable-Distributed/dp/0470068523/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1209409426&sr=8-2"><i>Security Engineering</i></a> in the mail.  It's beautiful.</p>

<p>This is the best book on the topic there is, and I recommend it to everyone working in this field -- and not just because I wrote the <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/bruce.html">foreword</a>.  You can download <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html">the preface and six chapters</a>.  (You can also download the entire first edition.)</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <source url="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/security_engine.html"> Security Engineering , by Ross Anderson</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Second edition]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/3ccb50d30ce934d02ac085d7ca13bcd3</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[The second edition of my book Security Engineering came out three weeks ago. Wiley have now got round to sending me the final electronic version of the book, plus permission to put half a dozen of the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second edition of my book &#8220;Security Engineering&#8221; came out three weeks ago. Wiley have now got round to sending me the final electronic version of the book, plus permission to put half a dozen of the chapters online. They&#8217;re now available for download <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>The chapters I&#8217;ve put online cover security psychology, banking systems, physical protection, APIs, search, social networking, elections and terrorism. That&#8217;s just a sample of how our field has grown outwards in the seven years since the first edition.</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
<p>Ross</p>
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      <source url="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/04/27/second-edition/">Second edition</source>
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