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      <title><![CDATA[The More Things Change, the More They Stay the Same]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/12ab611c9b823e0e31278b582051d7cf</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Guess the year: Murderous organizations have increased in size and scope; they are more daring, they are served by the most terrible weapons offered by modern science, and the world is nowadays...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess the year:</p>

<blockquote>Murderous organizations have increased in size and scope; they are more daring, they are served by the most terrible weapons offered by modern science, and the world is nowadays threatened by new forces which, if recklessly unchained, may some day wreck universal destruction. The Orsini bombs were mere children's toys compared with the later developments of infernal machines. Between 1858 and 1898 the dastardly science of destruction had made rapid and alarming strides...</blockquote>

<p>No, that wasn't a typo.  "Between 1858 and 1898...."  This quote is from Major Arthur Griffith, <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9907E7D8153DE633A25757C0A9659C94689ED7CF"><i>Mysteries of Police and Crime</i></a>, London, 1898, II, p. 469.  It's quoted in: Walter Laqueur, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/History-Terrorism-Walter-Laqueur/dp/0765807998/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223482236&sr=8-1"><i>A History of Terrorism</i></a>, New Brunswick/London, Transaction Publishers, 2002.  </p><div class="feedflare">
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      <source url="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/10/the_more_things.html">The More Things Change, the More They Stay the Same</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Symantec's vision...]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/0a12c35a88cbf21c5df24b956fdc875d</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[And so it begins

Symantec bought out MessageLabs and is (in their own words) &quot;combining MessageLabs deep expertise in the SaaS market with Symantecs rich portfolio of technologies

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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[And so it begins...<br /><br /><a href="http://www.symantec.com/about/news/release/article.jsp?prid=20081008_02">Symantec bought out MessageLabs</a> and is (in their own words) "combining MessageLabs’ deep expertise in the SaaS market with Symantec’s rich  portfolio of technologies".<br /><br />The interesting thing is that Symantec does not really lead in the anti-virus market (in terms of quality, not market share. All antivirus products are about the same) or antispam (MessageLabs is excellent here).<br /><br />So, what could they possibly bring to the party that MessageLabs doesn't already have?<br /><br />DLP.<br /><br />MessageLabs has DLP but it is very simple and not really worth very much. The framework is certainly there though. Add some good DLP and voila - you have a product that is worth something.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SecurityThoughts/~4/416721491" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Data Mining for Terrorists Doesn't Work]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/205a9261660e694f495f2a2726701cd2</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[According to a massive report from the National Research Council, data mining for terrorists doesn't work. Here's a good summary: The report was written by a committee whose members include William...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a <a href="http://www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12452">massive report</a> from the National Research Council, data mining for terrorists doesn't work.  <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10059987-38.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20">Here's</a> a good summary:</p>

<blockquote>The report was written by a committee whose members include William Perry, a professor at Stanford University; Charles Vest, the former president of MIT; W. Earl Boebert, a retired senior scientist at Sandia National Laboratories; Cynthia Dwork of Microsoft Research; R. Gil Kerlikowske, Seattle's police chief; and Daryl Pregibon, a research scientist at Google.

<p>They admit that far more Americans live their lives online, using everything from VoIP phones to Facebook to RFID tags in automobiles, than a decade ago, and the databases created by those activities are tempting targets for federal agencies. And they draw a distinction between subject-based data mining (starting with one individual and looking for connections) compared with pattern-based data mining (looking for anomalous activities that could show illegal activities).</p>

<p>But the authors conclude the type of data mining that government bureaucrats would like to do--perhaps inspired by watching too many episodes of the Fox series 24--can't work. "If it were possible to automatically find the digital tracks of terrorists and automatically monitor only the communications of terrorists, public policy choices in this domain would be much simpler. But it is not possible to do so."</p>

<p>A summary of the recommendations:</p>

<ul><li>U.S. government agencies should be required to follow a systematic process to evaluate the effectiveness, lawfulness, and consistency with U.S. values of every information-based program, whether classified or unclassified, for detecting and countering terrorists before it can be deployed, and periodically thereafter.

<p><li>Periodically after a program has been operationally deployed, and in particular before a program enters a new phase in its life cycle, policy makers should (carefully review) the program before allowing it to continue operations or to proceed to the next phase.</p>

<p><li>To protect the privacy of innocent people, the research and development of any information-based counterterrorism program should be conducted with synthetic population data... At all stages of a phased deployment, data about individuals should be rigorously subjected to the full safeguards of the framework.</p>

<p><li>Any information-based counterterrorism program of the U.S. government should be subjected to robust, independent oversight of the operations of that program, a part of which would entail a practice of using the same data mining technologies to "mine the miners and track the trackers."</p>

<p><li>Counterterrorism programs should provide meaningful redress to any individuals inappropriately harmed by their operation.</p>

<p><li>The U.S. government should periodically review the nation's laws, policies, and procedures that protect individuals' private information for relevance and effectiveness in light of changing technologies and circumstances. In particular, Congress should re-examine existing law to consider how privacy should be protected in the context of information-based programs (e.g., data mining) for counterterrorism.</ul></blockquote></p>

<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/washington/08data.html">Here</a> <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/10/data-mining-for.html">are</a> <a href="http://techdirt.com/articles/20081007/1242002479.shtml">more</a> news articles on the report.  I <a href="http://www.schneier.com/essay-108.html">explained</a> why data mining wouldn't find terrorists back in 2005.</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/10/data_mining_for_1.html">Data Mining for Terrorists Doesn't Work</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Sarah Palin and Security Questions]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/1eba1cf0b2be12e62853ecfc357cf52d</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I've always looked at security questions used to automate user password recovery with quite a bit of skepticism . What's the point of requiring strong passwords if you allow anyone to reset the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve always looked at <a href="http://goodsecurityquestions.com" target="_blank">security questions</a> used to automate user password recovery with <a href="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/blogs/keith/archive/2006/05/24/24964.aspx" target="_blank">quite a bit of skepticism</a>. What&#39;s the point of requiring strong passwords if you allow anyone to reset the password on an account by answering a (potentially inane) question? And just how many good security questions are there, and how many web sites will ask similar questions, allowing the owner of one web site to reset a user&#39;s password at another site that uses the same question? I&#39;m pretty sure that the typical user will tend to select the same security question if it&#39;s available at multiple sites. In many web sites I&#39;ve seen, the security question is clearly the weak link in the chain.</p> <p>Apparently <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/10/son_of_tenn_lawmaker_indicted.html?hpid=news-col-blogs" target="_blank">a fellow recently was indicted</a> on charges of <a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/09/palin-e-mail-ha.html" target="_blank">hacking</a> into the Republican vice presidential nominee&#39;s Yahoo <a href="http://wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_Sarah_Palin_hacked" target="_blank">email account</a>, by simply doing some research on the Internet to find her birthday, zip code, and the answer to her security question, &quot;Where did you meet your spouse?&quot; All told the attack reportedly took under an hour to complete.</p> <p>Given the level of interest in Palin and other public figures, and the large amount of information about them available to the public, it makes sense that they will be some of the easiest targets for attacks like this.</p><div style="clear:both;"></div><img src="http://www.pluralsight.com/community/aggbug.aspx?PostID=53812" width="1" height="1">]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Microsoft promises huge patch day next week]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Microsoft plans to issue 11 security updates next Tuesday -- the same number it shipped in August when it pushed out the most patches in 18 months -- for bugs in Windows, Active Directory, Internet...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Microsoft plans to issue 11 security updates next Tuesday -- the same number it shipped in August when it pushed out the most patches in 18 months -- for bugs in Windows, Active Directory, Internet Explorer, Office and Host Integration Server.<br style="clear: both;"/>
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      <title><![CDATA[Why Risk Management Doesnt Work (?!)]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/2dce81ab5be406fb5211a9daea174b0c</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Several folks (Hi Daniel , Brent , David !) sent email &amp; twitters asking us our opinion on a Dark Reading article called Why Risk Management Doesnt Work which if you click on the link should come up...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several folks (Hi <a href="http://dmiessler.com/">Daniel</a>, <a href="http://stateofsecurity.com/">Brent</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/debix">David</a>!) sent email &amp; twitters asking us our opinion on a Dark Reading article called &#8220;<a href="http://www.darkreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=165107">Why Risk Management Doesn&#8217;t Work</a>&#8221; which if you click on the link should come up for you after seeing someone&#8217;s advertisement for a few seconds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming the author wants us to read the title as <strong>&#8220;Things to Look Out For in Performing Risk Analysis&#8221;</strong> and not <strong>&#8220;Risk Management is Folly - Stop, Stop, Stop!&#8221;</strong> The former is fine, the latter isn&#8217;t supported by the evidence presented by the subjects of the article.<br />
The subjects of the article are a <strong><a href="http://www.verizonbusiness.com/resources/security/databreachreport.pdf">good study from Wade Baker &amp; Co. at Verizon</a></strong>, and a report from RSA&#8217;s Security for Business Innovation Council. Let&#8217;s take a look at each of these and examine why what they&#8217;re saying might contribute to poor risk management, shall we?</p>
<p><strong>1.)  THE VERIZON REPORT</strong></p>
<p>The Verizon report is an analysis of some 530 forensic investigations their company performed.  It is well worth your time as it&#8217;s chock full of interesting information.  As it relates to the Dark Reading piece, a coarse summary would be that &#8220;likelihood&#8221; is &#8220;different&#8221; for different people and so you can&#8217;t use the same &#8220;likelihood&#8221; across different industries.</p>
<p>Distilled through the lens of FAIR:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;different threat communities may be applicable based on Probability of Action factors which include: Value, Level of Effort and Risk (of Getting Caught).&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Or, even further distilled and in the words of my six year old son,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Duh-uh&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>With regards to what I assume is the purpose of the article (What Doesn&#8217;t Work in Risk Analysis) this concept  seems just to rehash the old GIGO argument regarding risk analysis.  Great.  Can&#8217;t argue with that, nor it&#8217;s corollary QIQO (quality in, quality out).</p>
<p>But let me ask you -  <strong><em>is this really a problem common in your analysis</em></strong>?  Did reading this article make you go &#8220;Crap, we&#8217;ve been using data normalized across multiple industries in our analysis! They&#8217;re all wrong!&#8221;  Or have you already been accounting for the unique value proposition your company has to the specific threat community you&#8217;re worried about?  See, maybe I&#8217;m just not your average analyst, but even in my NIST/OCTAVE days, this has *never* been an issue for me.</p>
<p>Let me be specific, this is not a problem with Verizon&#8217;s very cool report.  It&#8217;s just that I don&#8217;t see what the big deal is.  This article is starting to feel like someone is running through the motions, trying to play the &#8221; a crazy title gets people to read a boring article&#8221; game.</p>
<p>Speaking of cool reports - You know what would be cool?  I think it would be interesting to see is the quality of these companies&#8217; &#8220;risk management process&#8221; established using good criteria,  and then correlated to the frequency and magnitude of real-world losses across the aggregate sample.  In other words, can we establish evidence that strong risk management practices not just reduce &#8220;risk&#8221; but also reduce actual incidents.</p>
<p><strong>2.)  THE RSA COUNCIL &#8220;EXPLORES WHY LEGACY METHODS OF EVALUATING INFORMATION SECURITY RISK DON&#8217;T WORK IN TODAY&#8217;S CONNECTED WORLD, IN WHICH ANY NEW BUSINESS INNOVATION INHERENTLY CARRIES SOME LEVEL OF RISK TO INFORMATION.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>This report from the RSA council puts forth a seemingly obvious proposition, that risk must be balanced by reward.  Why is this news?  Now as I read the article it&#8217;s not clear if:</p>
<ul>
<li>The RSA Council is claiming that the CISO&#8217;s office should be the ones determining reward.  Absurd.</li>
</ul>
<p>or</p>
<ul>
<li>Businesses aren&#8217;t doing a good job at determining risk and reward.</li>
</ul>
<p>Let&#8217;s go with the latter.  So I&#8217;m pretty sure (good) businesses do a good job at estimating reward.  Businesses I&#8217;ve been a part of?  We LOVE(D) estimating reward.  We don&#8217;t tend to start projects all willy-nilly. No we tend to be careful to identify the size of the market and what it will cost to address the market.  So what could the problem be that this RSA council is trying to address?  Maybe it has to do with something like the following:</p>
<p>Yesterday, I got a demo of an IT-GRC application that shall remain nameless.  It seemed to be very good at the &#8220;C&#8221; bits - lots of information on regulations and expectations and even what sorts of controls would answer the regulations (which is goofy, but we&#8217;ll have to talk about that later).  It also gave you the ability to build workflow quite nicely.  But it measured NOTHING.  There really was no observable &#8220;G&#8221; and &#8220;R&#8221; was really Medium X Low X Low = High sorts of stuff.  So let&#8217;s use this relatively expensive tool as evidence of what your average CISO is armed with going into a Risk/Reward sort of meeting.  I imagine a nice board room with wood-grain paneling and glass bowls filled with little chocolate covered mints designed to give everyone involved in the meeting (CEO, CFO, CIO, CSO, VP S&amp;M, etc&#8230;) a little sugar rush when needed and fresh breath.  The conversation goes a little something like this (apologies to <strong><a href="http://securosis.com/2008/09/17/the-fallacy-of-complete-and-accurate-risk-quantification/">Rich</a></strong>):</p>
<blockquote><p><em><strong>Business Guy Who Wants to Make Money Because That&#8217;s What Businesses Do:</strong></em> Based on market studies, we believe that initial gross revenues from the new product and technology rollout will be eleventy gazillion dollars based on a 37% market penetration in Scandinavia, alone.</p>
<p><em><strong>CSO: </strong></em> Well now, we have a likelihood of &#8220;High&#8221; and a &#8220;C&#8221; impact of Medium, and an &#8220;I&#8221; impact of Low, and an &#8220;A&#8221; impact of &#8220;High&#8221; and because we are a (bank/hospital/retailer/basically any business that breathes anymore) we weight &#8220;C&#8221; by a factor of 2 - we multiplied those all together and got a &#8220;High&#8221;.</p>
<p>So can you guys delay the product rollout by 9 months and give me a bunch more money that&#8217;s not in the budget so that I can get this thing down to a &#8220;Medium&#8221;, please?</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, I just don&#8217;t see the problem with Information Risk Management being that our businesses have no idea what the rewards of business might be.  Now maybe we need get a seat in that boardroom just to be able to talk about our &#8220;Mediums&#8221;, sure.  And maybe we&#8217;re infantile in our ability to describe our problem space.  But I cannot fathom that &#8220;<em>Risk Management Doesn&#8217;t Work</em>&#8221; because businesses haven&#8217;t been considering &#8220;reward&#8221;.</p>
<p><strong>WHY RISK MANAGEMENT MAY  NOT BE WORKIN&#8217; FOR YOU</strong></p>
<p>Two meta-categories of causation:</p>
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<li>No skills</li>
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<p>and/or</p>
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<p>Any ancillary &#8220;cause&#8221; can be mapped to one of these categories.  You could have significant resources but crappy models, and have conversations like our imaginary CSO, above.  You could have really good models and people trained and motivated to use them, but scarce time &amp; money, so no conversation happens.</p>
<p>Now my question for you is - which does it make sense to acquire *first* to solve the &#8220;<em>Why Risk Management Doesn&#8217;t Work</em>&#8221; problems, skills or resources?</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[MSP Snapshot Monitoring with EM7]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Between the fifth anniversary for ScienceLogic and the Inc 500 milestone, weve become very nostalgic about the beginnings of the company and EM7. For instance, did you know that EM7 was originally...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between the <a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/sciencelogics-5-year-anniversary/08/2008" target="_blank">fifth anniversary for ScienceLogic</a> and the Inc 500 milestone, we’ve become very nostalgic about the beginnings of the company and EM7. For instance, did you know that EM7 was originally designed with managed service providers in mind? Not so surprising when 5 of the first 6 employees (including all 3 founders) came from hosting and MSP backgrounds and had first-hand experience with the daily trials and tribulations of MSP operations – and the tools that didn’t quite work for them.
<p><a href="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/john-at-interop-vegas.jpg"><img style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 0px 10px 10px 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="184" alt="John at Interop Vegas" src="http://blog.sciencelogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/john-at-interop-vegas-thumb.jpg" width="244" align="left" border="0"></a>Here we talk to John Proctor, who started out as one of our first customers (and the first MSP customer). And he believed in it so much, he eventually became part of the ScienceLogic team. (Remember &#8220;I&#8217;m not only the President, I&#8217;m also a client&#8221; from <a href="http://www.hairclub.com/inthenews_article1.php" target="_blank">the Hair Club for Men</a>?)
<p>John shares his perspectives about the service provider world and why he took a chance on a little-known product called EM7.
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> What is your background? How many years have you worked as a service provider and for what types of companies?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> I have been working with Service providers for over twelve years. I worked at a major regional service provider for six years and before that I designed and built national and international networks for ISP’s and Fortune 500 companies as a consultant for PriceWaterhouseCoopers and WorldComm.
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> You were one of the first customers of EM7 – why did you choose it and how did you get over the hurdles associated with using a start-up company’s product?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> We were actually customer number five. Back in 2004 when we evaluated and purchased EM7 we could see that EM7 provided about 80% of what we were looking for in one integrated solution right out of the box. One of the things that sold us on EM7 was that the ScienceLogic founders had all previously worked for a service provider, so we knew they understood our business and our challenges. But in the end, it comes down to features. Once we compared EM7 functionality to the alternatives, it was clearly a “no brainer.”
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> What other alternatives were being considered?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> Well, we had started with a few point solutions, but as our business and product offerings matured, this resulted in a growing number of point solutions. What started with 3 or 4 ended up as 14 separate tools. They all had strengths but what they didn’t have was integration and because of this they could not scale. And, if the tools could not scale, our business could not grow.
<p>So, naturally we started looking at framework solutions, but they are expensive to buy, expensive to implement, and expensive to maintain. At one point, we even considered some open source projects. There were several that showed promise, but we would still be stuck with tools that were not integrated. So then we considered hiring developers to cobble something together that would work for our business. The only problem with this alternative was that we felt it would take 6 to 8 months before we could have something viable to work with.
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> What products were you using before EM7? What were your goals?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> Before we purchased EM7 we used 14 different point solutions to deliver our products and services to the marketplace. Tools like NetCool, Openview, Argent, Heat, What’s Up Gold as well as several other point solutions, vendor specific applications and manually updated spreadsheets. And, as I mentioned before, this does not scale. This also adds a great deal of complexity when you begin to consider business continuity and disaster recovery. All these tools were vital to the delivery of our products and services. Any service provider will tell you it is all about uptime. So if the product is uptime, the tools used to deliver it have to be available 24&#215;7x365.
<p>Our goals were simple: scale and redundancy. As it turns out, the solution was simple as well. EM7 provided a tool that could replace the functionality of almost half of the existing point solutions and the applications that could not be replaced were integrated with EM7 to provide our staff with a “single pane of glass” to see the status and performance of each area of the business from one application. We had visibility into everything from facility systems to applications using EM7.
<p>ScienceLogic also delivers an extensible configuration that addressed uptime and redundancy. We deployed collectors throughout our network that reported back to a central pair of redundant database servers and with this configuration we were able to perform backups and add capacity without taking the system down.
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> Why are service providers different from enterprises? How are their needs different?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> First and foremost, service providers face the same challenges that only the largest enterprises ever face and they also have many unique challenges that only service providers experience.
<p>One challenge we faced was that we had multiple datacenters in different states. They were all interconnected with plenty of bandwidth between each site, but the tools were not designed to be used across the WAN. Our staff in our remote data center did not have the same access as our staff in the corporate office. Since EM7 is web-based, it immediately eliminated this problem.
<p>Another challenge is that service providers must manage systems across multiple domains. Back in the early version of a specific tool we were using before EM7, the only way you could implement it across multiple domains was to put the same username and password on every computer that you monitored. Beyond the security concerns, maintenance was a nightmare. Anytime we had to change the password, we would get locked out of dozens upon dozens of systems. When the password was changed on the monitoring server, it would attempt to login to the remote machines and fail. Repeated attempts would result in the account getting locked. I think that vendor eventually addressed this issue, but service providers seldom find tools that were designed for their unique situations.
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> How is EM7 geared to service providers?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> Enterprise IT is a trusted part of the business; they are one of the team. Service providers are outsiders that must earn trust by showing the customer exactly what they are doing.
<p>EM7 provides a multi-tenant environment that allows service providers to manage systems across many different customers while at the same time providing the customer access to see the same information but only what’s relevant to them.
<p>EM7 was built by service providers and even includes a few features just for them. Two of my favorites are bandwidth billing and the emergency notification system. Take bandwidth billing, for instance. EM7 provides a way to collect bandwidth utilization, store subscription information, and calculate a bill from any one of about 10 different methodologies. And at the end of the billing period, EM7 sends the completed report out to whomever you chose via email.
<p>Another unique service provider feature is the emergency notification system. EM7 allows the provider to track what customers used their unique infrastructure components. If they have to perform maintenance on the infrastructure component or have a problem they can send an email to all of the impacted customers in a matter of minutes.
<p><strong>ScienceLogic:</strong> What trends do you see for service providers? What about big trends such as virtualization and cloud computing – how will they impact service providers?
<p><strong>John Proctor:</strong> Virtualization is really hot for service providers right now and for the same reasons as in the enterprise. Service providers run data centers and data centers must be powered and cooled. So, anytime they can use a virtual server instead of adding physical equipment it is a good thing. But then you add the complexity that multiple customers reside on the same host and you must track things like bandwidth utilizations by guest OS, and it all gets a little harder. Lucky for us this is not a problem for EM7.
<p>I still think it’s early days for cloud computing. Depending on who you talk to, much of what service providers (especially the big ones) have already been doing with SAAS offerings and hosted applications could be described as cloud computing already. In which case, service providers are ahead of the game. But whatever the “final” definition, cloud computing actually shares many similarities with virtualization – in that service providers (or enterprises) will need to be able to manage far more “devices” in real-time with “zero downtime” expectations by customers. What this really means is that you’re going to see much more automation in provisioning and IT monitoring tools to handle the scale and speed with which things can change in the data center given vm migration and the talked-about switching between “clouds” that can be used for high availability. </p>
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      <title><![CDATA[The McAfee Secure Standard: Sort Of]]></title>
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I am in receipt of the McAfee Secure Standard, drafted to transparently describe the McAfee Secure service, as promised during my meeting with Joe Pierini and Kirk Lawrence of McAfee...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[I need your help.<br />I am in receipt of the McAfee Secure Standard, drafted to transparently describe the McAfee Secure service, as promised during my <a href="http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/08/mcirony-unexpected-response-from-mcafee.html" target="_blank">meeting</a> with Joe Pierini and Kirk Lawrence of McAfee some weeks ago. I admit my attitude has soured since last I discussed it here, as the Standard is not yet ready for public release (I last said 2-3 weeks and that was five weeks ago), but bear with me. I can't publish exact quotes from the Standard, as I've promised not to, but let me give you insight on the upside, then the downside.<br /><br />The upside includes all the transparency we'd hoped for. You'll read the McAfee Secure Standard and know exactly where they stand with regard as to what can be expected of the McAfee Secure Service. My discussions with Joe Pierini have been productive and respectful, he means well, and I believe he will try to drive the greater McAfee leadership to officially incorporate suggestions made in this blog. <br />I have even had the pleasure of reading a Researcher/Finder Policy that very succinctly describes what researchers can expect when they submit vulnerabilities found in McAfee Secure sites. That's all good stuff and to be applauded.<br /><br />Now for the downside.<br /><br />The McAfee Secure Standard will draw a clear distinction between "enterprise" customers and all the Ma & Pa websites who have so loved McAfee Secure / ScanAlert Hacker Safe for conversions.<br />The most glaring and painful distinction for me is this. While enterprise customers will have a clearly defined time line in which to remediate script injection vulnerabilities like XSS and open redirects, before losing their McAfee Secure badge, <span style="font-weight:bold;">the Ma & Pa sites will have absolutely no requirement to fix their XSS issues</span>. XSS vulnerabilities and the McAfee Secure badge will remain consistent on all those sites that care more about "convincing" their customers that they're secure with a McAfee Secure badge; a badge that, by its own pending standard, will contradict what we know to be truly secure.<br /><br />My views are clear. I have made every effort to convince McAfee that this stance is counter intuitive to good web application security standards. I believe that, in their own way, they are listening. So here's your chance.<br />1) Is transparency enough?<br />2) Is holding only enterprise customers accountable acceptable?<br />3) Should ALL McAfee Secure customers be expected to fix their vulnerabilities, even if on different timelines?<br />4) What else do you want McAfee to hear, in the form of constructive feedback only?<br />I will publish all well written, thoughtful comments here. Let's keep it positive and see if we can help convince McAfee that script injection vulnerabilities and McAfee Secure can't exist in the same physical space. Like matter and anti-matter. ;-)<br />The floor is yours...<br /><br /><a href="http://del.icio.us/post?url=http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/10/mcafee-secure-standard-sort-of.html&title=The%20McAfee%20Secure%20Standard:%20Sort%20Of " title="The McAfee Secure Standard: Sort Of ">del.icio.us</a> | <a href="http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&amp;url=http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/10/mcafee-secure-standard-sort-of.html" title="The McAfee Secure Standard: Sort Of ">digg</a> | <a href="http://slashdot.org/submit.pl?url=http://holisticinfosec.blogspot.com/2008/10/mcafee-secure-standard-sort-of.html">Submit to Slashdot</a>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[Data-Mining for Terrorists Not 'Feasible,' DHS-Funded Study Finds]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Searching for terrorists in masses of electronic data doesn't work and will lead to unacceptable privacy invasions, a government-funded commission reported Tuesday. Instead, the government should...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Searching for terrorists in masses of electronic data doesn't work and will lead to unacceptable privacy invasions, a government-funded commission reported Tuesday. Instead, the government should carefully evaluate how it uses the same technology as book recommendation software, and update the nation's privacy laws.<br style="clear: both;"/>
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      <source url="http://feeds.wired.com/~r/wired/politics/security/~3/414257224/data-mining-for.html">Data-Mining for Terrorists Not 'Feasible,' DHS-Funded Study Finds</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[The Seven Habits of Highly Ineffective Terrorists]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Most counterterrorism policies fail, not because of tactical problems, but because of a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates terrorists in the first place. If we're ever going to defeat...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most counterterrorism policies fail, not because of tactical problems, but because of a fundamental misunderstanding of what motivates terrorists in the first place. If we're ever going to defeat terrorism, we need to understand what drives people to become terrorists in the first place. </p>

<p>Conventional wisdom holds that terrorism is inherently political, and that people become terrorists for political reasons. This is the "strategic" model of terrorism, and it's basically an economic model. It posits that people resort to terrorism when they believe -- rightly or wrongly -- that terrorism is worth it; that is, when they believe the political gains of terrorism minus the political costs are greater than if they engaged in some other, more peaceful form of protest. It's assumed, for example, that people join Hamas to achieve a Palestinian state; that people join the PKK to attain a Kurdish national homeland; and that people join al-Qaida to, among other things, get the United States out of the Persian Gulf. </p>

<p>If you believe this model, the way to fight terrorism is to change that equation, and that's what most experts advocate. Governments tend to minimize the political gains of terrorism through a no-concessions policy; the international community tends to recommend reducing the political grievances of terrorists via appeasement, in hopes of getting them to renounce violence. Both advocate policies to provide effective nonviolent alternatives, like free elections. </p>

<p>Historically, none of these solutions has worked with any regularity. Max Abrahms, a predoctoral fellow at Stanford University's Center for International Security and Cooperation, has studied dozens of terrorist groups from all over the world. He argues that the model is wrong. In a <a href="http://maxabrahms.com/pdfs/DC_250-1846.pdf">paper</a> published this year in International Security that -- sadly -- doesn't have the title "Seven Habits of Highly Ineffective Terrorists," he discusses, well, seven habits of highly ineffective terrorists. These seven tendencies are seen in terrorist organizations all over the world, and they directly contradict the theory that terrorists are political maximizers: </p>

<p>Terrorists, he writes, (1) attack civilians, a policy that has a lousy track record of convincing those civilians to give the terrorists what they want; (2) treat terrorism as a first resort, not a last resort, failing to embrace nonviolent alternatives like elections; (3) don't compromise with their target country, even when those compromises are in their best interest politically; (4) have protean political platforms, which regularly, and sometimes radically, change; (5) often engage in anonymous attacks, which precludes the target countries making political concessions to them; (6) regularly attack other terrorist groups with the same political platform; and (7) resist disbanding, even when they consistently fail to achieve their political objectives or when their stated political objectives have been achieved. </p>

<p>Abrahms has an alternative model to explain all this: People turn to terrorism for social solidarity. He theorizes that people join terrorist organizations worldwide in order to be part of a community, much like the reason inner-city youths join gangs in the United States. </p>

<p>The evidence supports this. Individual terrorists often have no prior involvement with a group's political agenda, and often join multiple terrorist groups with incompatible platforms. Individuals who join terrorist groups are frequently not oppressed in any way, and often can't describe the political goals of their organizations. People who join terrorist groups most often have friends or relatives who are members of the group, and the great majority of terrorist are socially isolated: unmarried young men or widowed women who weren't working prior to joining. These things are true for members of terrorist groups as diverse as the IRA and al-Qaida. </p>

<p>For example, several of the 9/11 hijackers planned to fight in Chechnya, but they didn't have the right paperwork so they attacked America instead. The mujahedeen had no idea whom they would attack after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan, so they sat around until they came up with a new enemy: America. Pakistani terrorists regularly defect to another terrorist group with a totally different political platform. Many new al-Qaida members say, unconvincingly, that they decided to become a jihadist after reading an extreme, anti-American blog, or after converting to Islam, sometimes just a few weeks before. These people know little about politics or Islam, and they frankly don't even seem to care much about learning more. The blogs they turn to don't have a lot of substance in these areas, even though more informative blogs do exist. </p>

<p>All of this explains the seven habits. It's not that they're ineffective; it's that they have a different goal. They might not be effective politically, but they are effective socially: They all help preserve the group's existence and cohesion. </p>

<p>This kind of analysis isn't just theoretical; it has practical implications for counterterrorism. Not only can we now better understand who is likely to become a terrorist, we can engage in strategies specifically designed to weaken the social bonds within terrorist organizations. Driving a wedge between group members -- commuting prison sentences in exchange for actionable intelligence, planting more double agents within terrorist groups -- will go a long way to weakening the social bonds within those groups. </p>

<p>We also need to pay more attention to the socially marginalized than to the politically downtrodden, like unassimilated communities in Western countries. We need to support vibrant, benign communities and organizations as alternative ways for potential terrorists to get the social cohesion they need. And finally, we need to minimize collateral damage in our counterterrorism operations, as well as clamping down on bigotry and hate crimes, which just creates more dislocation and social isolation, and the inevitable calls for revenge.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.wired.com/print/politics/security/commentary/securitymatters/2008/10/securitymatters_1002">previously appeared</a> on Wired.com.</p><div class="feedflare">
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