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      <title><![CDATA[ Here Comes Everybody Review]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[In 1937, Ronald Coase answered one of the most perplexing questions in economics: if markets are so great, why do organizations exist? Why don't people just buy and sell their own services in a market...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1937, Ronald Coase answered one of the most perplexing questions in economics: if markets are so great, why do organizations exist? Why don't people just buy and sell their own services in a market instead? Coase, who won the 1991 Nobel Prize in Economics, answered the question by noting a market's transaction costs: buyers and sellers need to find one another, then reach agreement, and so on. The Coase theorem implies that if these transaction costs are low enough, direct markets of individuals make a whole lot of sense. But if they are too high, it makes more sense to get the job done by an organization that hires people. </p>

<p>Economists have long understood the corollary concept of Coase's ceiling, a point above which organizations collapse under their own weight -- where hiring someone, however competent, means more work for everyone else than the new hire contributes. Software projects often bump their heads against Coase's ceiling: recall Frederick P. Brooks Jr.'s seminal study, <cite>The Mythical Man-Month</cite> (Addison-Wesley, 1975), which showed how adding another person onto a project can slow progress and increase errors. </p>

<p>What's new is something consultant and social technologist Clay Shirky calls &quot;Coase's Floor,&quot; below which we find projects and activities that aren't worth their organizational costs -- things so esoteric, so frivolous, so nonsensical, or just so thoroughly unimportant that no organization, large or small, would ever bother with them. Things that you shake your head at when you see them and think, &quot;That's ridiculous.&quot;</p>

<p>Sounds a lot like the Internet, doesn't it? And that's precisely Shirky's point. His new book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1594201536/counterpane/"><cite>Here Comes Everybody: The Power of Organizing Without Organizations</cite></a>, explores a world where organizational costs are close to zero and where ad hoc, loosely connected groups of unpaid amateurs can create an encyclopedia larger than the Britannica and a computer operating system to challenge Microsoft's. </p>

<p>Shirky teaches at New York University's Interactive Telecommunications Program, but this is no academic book. Sacrificing rigor for readability, <cite>Here Comes Everybody</cite> is an entertaining as well as informative romp through some of the Internet's signal moments -- the Howard Dean phenomenon, Belarusian protests organized on LiveJournal, the lost cellphone of a woman named Ivanna, Meetup.com, flash mobs, Twitter, and more -- which Shirky uses to illustrate his points. </p>

<p>The book is filled with bits of insight and common sense, explaining why young people take better advantage of social tools, how the Internet affects social change, and how most Internet discourse falls somewhere between dinnertime conversation and publishing. </p>

<p>Shirky notes that &quot;most user-generated content isn't 'content' at all, in the sense of being created for general consumption, any more than a phone call between you and a sibling is 'family-generated content.' Most of what gets created on any given day is just the ordinary stuff of life -- gossip, little updates, thinking out loud -- but now it's done in the same medium as professionally produced material. Unlike professionally produced material, however, Internet content can be organized after the fact.&quot; </p>

<p>No one coordinates Flickr's 6 million to 8 million users. Yet Flickr had the first photos from the 2005 London Transport bombings, beating the traditional news media. Why? People with cellphone cameras uploaded their photos to Flickr. They coordinated themselves using tools that Flickr provides. This is the sort of impromptu organization the Internet is ideally suited for. Shirky explains how these moments are harbingers of a future that can self-organize without formal hierarchies. </p>

<p>These nonorganizations allow for contributions from a wider group of people. A newspaper has to pay someone to take photos; it can't be bothered to hire someone to stand around London underground stations waiting for a major event. Similarly, Microsoft has to pay a programmer full time, and <cite>Encyclopedia Britannica</cite> has to pay someone to write articles. But Flickr can make use of a person with just one photo to contribute, Linux can harness the work of a programmer with little time, and Wikipedia benefits if someone corrects just a single typo. These aggregations of millions of actions that were previously below the Coasean floor have enormous potential. </p>

<p>But a flash mob is still a mob. In a world where the Coasean floor is at ground level, all sorts of organizations appear, including ones you might not like: violent political organizations, hate groups, Holocaust deniers, and so on. (Shirky's discussion of teen anorexia support groups makes for very disturbing reading.) This has considerable implications for security, both online and off. </p>

<p>We never realized how much our security could be attributed to distance and inconvenience -- how difficult it is to recruit, organize, coordinate, and communicate without formal organizations. That inadvertent measure of security is now gone. Bad guys, from hacker groups to terrorist groups, will use the same ad hoc organizational technologies that the rest of us do. And while there has been some success in closing down individual Web pages, discussion groups, and blogs, these are just stopgap measures. </p>

<p>In the end, a virtual community is still a community, and it needs to be treated as such. And just as the best way to keep a neighborhood safe is for a policeman to walk around it, the best way to keep a virtual community safe is to have a virtual police presence. </p>

<p>Crime isn't the only danger; there is also isolation. If people can segregate themselves in ever-increasingly specialized groups, then they're less likely to be exposed to alternative ideas. We see a mild form of this in the current political trend of rival political parties having their own news sources, their own narratives, and their own facts. Increased radicalization is another danger lurking below the Coasean floor. </p>

<p>There's no going back, though. We've all figured out that the Internet makes freedom of speech a much harder right to take away. As Shirky demonstrates, Web 2.0 is having the same effect on freedom of assembly. The consequences of this won't be fully seen for years. </p>

<p><cite>Here Comes Everybody</cite> covers some of the same ground as Yochai Benkler's <cite>Wealth of Networks</cite>. But when I had to explain to one of my corporate attorneys how the Internet has changed the nature of public discourse, Shirky's book is the one I recommended.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/sep08/6631">previously appeared</a> in <i>IEEE Spectrum</i>.</p><div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[Quality Assurance in Malware Attacks - Part Two]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Surprisingly, while opportunistic cybercriminals have long embraced the malware as a service model , and are offering managed lower detection rate services for a customer's malware, or DIY ones where...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SPRhE15p3EI/AAAAAAAACRo/-Sf5Kru9mE4/s1600-h/multiple_offline_av_scanners.bmp" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SPRhE15p3EI/AAAAAAAACRo/L091hcqbjI8/s200-R/multiple_offline_av_scanners.bmp" /></a>Surprisingly, while opportunistic cybercriminals have long embraced the <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/10/multiple-firewalls-bypassing.html">malware as a service model</a>, and are offering managed lower detection rate services for a customer's malware, or DIY ones where the customer can take advantage of <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/08/malware-as-web-service.html">popular tools ported to the Web</a>, others are still trying to innovate at a faddish market niche - <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/04/quality-and-assurance-in-malware.html">multiple offline AV scanners tools</a> aiming to ensure that their malware doesn't end up in the hands of vendors/researchers.<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SPSHXY5GLGI/AAAAAAAACR4/ABWYWxPvTA4/s1600-h/malware_scanning_private.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SPSHXY5GLGI/AAAAAAAACR4/WY7deAhtx_o/s200-R/malware_scanning_private.JPG" /></a>Multiple offline AV scanning tools like this very latest release, naturally using pirated copies of popular antivirus software, are faddish, due to the fact that during the last two years, the underground has been busy working on several paid web based services, that not only make sure vendors and researchers never get the chance to obtain the samples, but also, are already offering scheduled scanning of malware and automatic ICQ/Jabber notifications for QA of the campaign, next to the rest of unique features disintermediating legitimate multiple AV scanning services.<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SPSHpQzSpoI/AAAAAAAACSA/XtA3IYSNBAw/s1600-h/AV_scan_paid11.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SPSHpQzSpoI/AAAAAAAACSA/ybwLLGXpNDk/s200-R/AV_scan_paid11.JPG" /></a>Certain features within such services clearly speak for the intentions of the people behind the service. For instance, among one of these features is the ability to fetch a binary from a set of given dropper URLs like malwaredomain.com/binary.exe, the result of the scan can then alert the malware campaigner about the current state of detection.<br />
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What's on these proprietary multiple AV scanning service's to-do list? Let's say anything that a legitimate multiple AV scanning service would never offer, like the following according to one of the services in question : <br />
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- upcoming sets of anti spyware and personal firewalls with detailed statistics of the sandboxing<br />
- behavior-based detection results <br />
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      <title><![CDATA[So Logically, If She Weighs The Same As A DuckShes A Witch!]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[I usually try to stay far away from politics and current events, but my friend Rich has put up a blog post blaming the credit crisis on quantitative analysis, and then positing that because the...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually try to stay far away from politics and current events, but my friend <strong><a href="http://securosis.com/2008/09/17/the-fallacy-of-complete-and-accurate-risk-quantification/">Rich has put up a blog post</a></strong> blaming the credit crisis on quantitative analysis, and then positing that because the economy sucks, Information Security should be only qualitative.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ve been &#8220;accused&#8221; of being a quant in the past (hi rybolov!) but in reality the only dogs I have in this fight are the model and the application of scientific method - and really, ethically speaking, I have to be tied to the latter while applying the former.</p>
<p>And I see a false dichotomy in this whole Quant vs. Qual thing.  We, as a profession, tend to create a political divide between the two which, if it even exists, I&#8217;d say is based more on our ignorance rather than our expertise.  After all, we are the profession that regularly multiplies across ordinal scales and uses wonderful models like R=VxTxI.   As someone  learning to deal in probabilities and rationalism, I have to recognize that this discussion is really just about the act of observation using different metrics of measurement.</p>
<p>But how we&#8217;re going about observing does not change the fact that there is measurement based on observation.  So if I&#8217;m working with you I can easily turn your qualitative scale into a quantitative one, and vice-versa.  Yes, Shrdlu, if we had the time, even your most seemingly Qual things could be Quant! (This flexible world view, btw, is an outcome of that new-fangled Bayesian thing).</p>
<p><strong>COGNITIVE BIAS A-PLENTY</strong></p>
<p>But back to what Rich is saying there about information security and risk - and he isn&#8217;t/won&#8217;t be the only one saying these sorts of things - we should try to understand what&#8217;s really going on rather than get caught up in the emotional hurricane.  Our profession suffers several forms of cognitive bias.  The nature of our jobs and what we do can cause us to be focused on the outcome and not the quality of the decision at the time it was made.  We want to bring in things from other professions that are useful, but at times we do view things outside our profession with false correlation to our own (unfortunately for those who write these sorts of articles, financial risk is <em><strong>completely different</strong></em> than operational risk).  We also have the tendency to focus on negative outcomes without acknowledging the positive outcomes (For example, I hear that Alan Greenspan&#8217;s new firm is up a couple of $billion in all this mess since he joined them, short sellers are doing quite well - must be because they have qualitative models or something <em>-grin-</em>).  The effect of these biases are compounded by the facts that proper correlation takes more work than we usually give it, and rational thought is not that easy when there&#8217;s a witch-hunt mentality.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 257px"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g"><img src="http://www.riskmanagementinsight.com/media/images/weblog/peasants.png" alt="Burn her anyway!" width="247" height="219" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">What also floats in water? (link to Youtube)</p></div>
<p><strong>WHAT SHOULD WE BE THINKING ABOUT?</strong></p>
<p>So as you and I read opinions that seem to be the polar opposite of irrational exuberance (and there will be plenty between now and the election) we&#8217;ll have to ask ourselves, &#8220;what really failed here?&#8221;  At the risk (pun) of over-simplification:</p>
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<li>Was There an Error on the part of Probability Theory?</li>
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<p>After all, Probability Science like all other fields of knowledge is always &#8220;advancing&#8221; as they say.  So perhaps probability theory is wrong somehow?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m personally disinclined to put the blame here, primarily because I would think that there would be evidence from other fields (like Quantum Mechanics) that something is amiss waaaaay before it hit a field like economics.</p>
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<li>Was There Error In The Model Used to Determine Risk?</li>
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<p>Some people who understand real estate valuation and complex derivatives and financial risk want to put the blame here.  It&#8217;s a little too early to tell, but one thing is for sure - Financial risk is so different from operational risk I couldn&#8217;t begin to hazard an opinion on the subject.   But it would seem that this is really somewhere we might look.</p>
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<li>Was There Error In The  Scale Used (Quantitative vs. Qualitative)?</li>
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<p>Honestly?  I find it extremely difficult to understand how this could be the source of financial ruin.</p>
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<li>Was There Error on the part of the Decision Maker?</li>
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<p>What if all of the above were just fine, and the decision maker chose short term gain over long term stability?  What if this was (to simplify the matter greatly) a choice of &#8220;heads&#8221; over &#8220;tails&#8221; and the coin landed on tails?  What if the model represented the right risk (probability of negative outcome vs. positive outcome), but the complex derivative was sold to someone else who had poor &#8220;risk management&#8221; (ability to make a good decisions)?</p>
<p>Now I have no clue about complex derivatives, and I&#8217;m oversimplifying to be sure - chances are like most things, there are several problems that helped create the primary cause. But it seems to me that as we go into incident response mode for the economy, it&#8217;s more helpful to do so in a rational, logical manner.<br />
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OTHER THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER</strong></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><strong>Consider the Source</strong></span><br />
Some authors (who I think tend to exploit outcome and hindsight bias,and then combine those with indirect ad hominem attacks in order to sell their books), are actually putting forth arguments against the use of analytics.  The source of this is a current epistemic debate between those who believe that only falsification is certain, and those who maintain that neither proof nor falsification are certain, there are only probabilities.    So before you go believing any &#8220;quadrants&#8221; of usefulness on faith - I encourage you to understand what is at the heart of the discussion.<br />
<span style="color: #008000;"><strong><br />
We All Have to Live In The Real World</strong></span><br />
The sun will rise tomorrow, and someone will try to find the source of the problem and do a better job.  Now chances are, they&#8217;ll be doing it in a quantitative manner.  Chances are also that at some point their models will fail and we&#8217;ll need to build new ones.  And this will happen whether the field is cosmology, economics, meteorology, information security, or professional baseball.<br />
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WHAT ABOUT YOU, ALEX?</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m far from certain and subject to change, but these days I lean towards <strong><a href="http://www.overcomingbias.com/2008/09/who-to-blame.html">Robin Hanson &amp; MIchael Lewis</a></strong> w/regards to placing blame.</p>
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      <description><![CDATA[Is the once popular in the second quarter of 2007, embedded malware tactic on the verge of irrelevance, and if so, what has contributed to its decline? Have SQL injections executed through botnets...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SKlq1uSeDFI/AAAAAAAACDM/l4bxcru-BQk/s1600-h/cpanel_multiple_domains1.png" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SKlq1uSeDFI/AAAAAAAACDM/ho301JgoMUs/s200-R/cpanel_multiple_domains1.png" /></a> Is the once popular in the second quarter of 2007, embedded malware tactic on the verge of irrelevance, and if so, what has contributed to its decline? Have SQL injections executed through botnets turned into the most efficient way to infect hundreds of thousands of legitimate web sites? Depends on who you're dealing with.<br />
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A cyber criminal's position in the "underground food chain" can be easily tracked down on the basis of tools and tactics that he's taking advantage of, in fact, some would on purposely misinform on what their actual capabilities are in order not to attract too much attention to their real ones, consisting of high-profile compromises at hundreds of high-profile web sites.<br />
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<div style="text-align: left;"></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"></div><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SKmDVdDGnPI/AAAAAAAACDU/qNbLBUKlHp0/s1600-h/cpanel_multiple_domains3.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SKmDVdDGnPI/AAAAAAAACDU/ZsmcK9HMeUs/s200-R/cpanel_multiple_domains3.jpg" /></a>Embedded malware may not be as hot as it used to be in the last quarter of 2007, but thanks to the oversupply of stolen accounting data, certain individuals within the underground ecosystem seem to be abusing entire portfolios of domains on the basis of purchasing access to the compromised accounts. In fact, the oversupply of compromised Cpanel accounts is logically resulting in their decreasing price, with the sellers differentiating their propositions, and charging premium prices based on the site's page ranks and traffic, measured through publicly available services, or through the internal statistics.<br />
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SQL injections may be the tactic of choice for the time being, but as long as stolen accounting data consisting of Cpanel logins, and web shells access to misconfigured web servers remain desired underground goods, goold old fashioned embedded malware will continue taking place.<br />
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Interestingly, from an economic perspective, the way the seller markets his goods, can greatly influence the way they get abused given he continues offering after-sale services and support. It's blackhat search engine optimization I have in mind, sometimes the tactic of choice especially given its high liquidity in respect to monetizing the compromised access.<br />
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The bottom line - for the time being, there's a higher probability that your web properties will get SQL injected, than IFRAME-ed, as it used to be half a year ago, and that's because what used to be a situation where malicious parties would aim at launching a targeted attack at high profile site and abuse the huge traffic it receives, is today's pragmatic reality where a couple of hundred low profile web sites can in fact return more traffic to the cyber criminals, and greatly extend the lifecycle of their campaign taking advantage of the fact the the low profile site owners would remain infected and vulnerable for months to come.<br />
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<b>Related posts:</b><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/03/embedding-malicious-iframes-through.html">Embedding Malicious IFRAMEs Through Stolen FTP Accounts</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/03/injecting-iframes-by-abusing-input.html">Injecting IFRAMEs by Abusing Input Validation</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/07/money-mule-recruiters-use-asproxs-fast.html">Money Mule Recruiters use ASProx's Fast-flux Services</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/05/malware-domains-used-in-sql-injection.html">Malware Domains Used in the SQL Injection Attacks</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/07/obfuscating-fast-fluxed-sql-injected.html">Obfuscating Fast-fluxed SQL Injected Domains</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/07/sql-injecting-malicious-doorways-to.html">SQL Injecting Malicious Doorways to Serve Malware </a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/05/yet-another-massive-sql-injection.html">Yet Another Massive SQL Injection Spotted in the Wild</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/05/malware-domains-used-in-sql-injection.html">Malware Domains Used in the SQL Injection Attacks</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/07/sql-injection-through-search-engines.html">SQL Injection Through Search Engines Reconnaissance</a><br />
<a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/05/google-hacking-for-vulnerabilities.html">Google Hacking for Vulnerabilities</a><br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1122">Fast-Fluxing SQL injection attacks executed from the Asprox botnet</a><br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1394">Sony PlayStation's site SQL injected, redirecting to rogue security software</a><br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1118">Redmond Magazine Successfully SQL Injected by Chinese Hacktivists</a><div class="feedflare">
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      <description><![CDATA[What is shaping the prices of stolen credit card details? The investments the cybercriminals or real life scammers ( through credit card cloning or ATM skimming ) put into the process of obtaining the...]]></description>
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<a href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SHzyYjwnXTI/AAAAAAAAB6c/9rHV8A0Ggz4/s1600-h/ccz.JPG" imageanchor="1" style="border: 0pt none ; background-color: transparent; clear: left; margin-bottom: 1em; float: left; margin-right: 1em;"><img src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SHzyYjwnXTI/AAAAAAAAB6c/WQG5_Cal0xY/s200-R/ccz.JPG" style="border: 0pt none ;" /></a>What is shaping the prices of stolen credit card details? The investments the cybercriminals or real life scammers ( through <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/02/credit-card-data-cloning-tactic.html">credit card cloning</a> or <a href="http://www.snopes.com/fraud/atm/atmcamera.asp">ATM skimming</a>) put into the process of obtaining the details, or can we even talk about investments being made where an experienced scammer has just purchased 1GB of raw credit cards data from a novice botnet master who isn't really aware of the actual value of his "botnet output"?<br />
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Depends on which economic theory you believe in, or whether or not you'll take the "bottom-up approach" or the "top-down" one. And since I'm not aware of the existence of "the invisible hand of the underground market" and centralized power to increase the supply or decrease it to boost prices for the stolen credit card details, also indicating the existence of underground cartels putting everyone in a "price taker" position.<br />
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The basics of demand and supply for anything underground will always apply unless of course, The more they want, the cheaper it gets, the less they want, the higher the price on per credit card basis gets, since the investment on behalf of the malicious party that originally stolen them is virtually the same, and he can theoretically break-even in every single case since the credit card details were obtained efficiently. It's up to the seller to follow or entirely ignore economic behavior, and do what they feel like doing with this good which must on the other hand reach its market liquidity as soon as possible, else it becomes obsolete. The current market model can be further explained as a good example of competitive equilibrium :<br />
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"<i>Competitive market equilibrium is the traditional concept of economic equilibrium, appropriate for the analysis of commodity markets with flexible prices and many traders, and serving as the benchmark of efficiency in economic analysis. <b>It relies crucially on the assumption of a competitive environment where each trader decides upon a quantity that is so small compared to the total quantity traded in the market that their individual transactions have no influence on the prices.</b></i>"<br />
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This can be easily explained in a single sentence - it's a mess and every participant is doing whatever they want to, so generalizing on the prices charged for stolen credit card numbers would be unrealistic, since it's the price a single seller with no real impact on the "average" market price for the same good. As for the average market price itself, it would be hard to measure it depending on the quality of the sample you want to rely on, since this is a type of market where sellers don't have to report price changes in their goods for the purpose of statistical research.<br />
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<a href="http://www.finjan.com/Content.aspx?id=827#SecurityTrendsReport">A recently released report by Finjan</a>, with whom I've been on the same page of several high profile incidents so far, <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080715/wr_nm/cybercrime_finjan_dc">touches this very same topic</a> :<br />
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"<i>Prices charged by cybercriminals selling hacked bank and credit card details have fallen sharply as the volume of data on offer has soared, forcing them to look elsewhere to boost profit margins, a new report says. Researchers for Finjan, a Web security firm, said the high volumes traded had led to bank and credit card information becoming "commoditized" - account details with PIN codes that once fetched $100 or more each might now go for $10 or $20. In its latest quarterly survey of Web trends, the California-based company said cybercrime had evolved into "a major shadow economy ruled by business rules and logic that closely mimics the legitimate business world.</i>"<br />
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Excluding the presence of <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2008/06/price-discrimination-in-market-for.html">price discrimination</a> for a while, as well as open topic offers in the lines of "how much for X amount of Y?" answered as "how much are you willing to pay?", it's all a matter of the seller in a particular situation.<br />
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Furthermore, in real-life market there's always the scarcity problem, however, in the underground market there's no shortage of resources despite the ever growing wants of the buyers. Generalizing even more, take for instance the butterfly effect of a price change in petrol, and result of which is inevitable increase of prices in every single aspect of your life, but in the underground market mostly due to the malicious economies of scale achieved, a price increase in renting a botnet would have no effect in the prices charged for the stolen credit card details obtained through the infected hosts. How come? Basically, the price and resources for malware infection are prone to decrease, if we take a malware infected host as a static foundation for the basis of any upcoming cybercrime activities using it.<br />
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Perhaps the most disturbing part is that the market for stolen credit card details is so mature, and its entry barriers so low these days, that the confidential data that cannot be efficiently obtained through real-life means like credit card cloning or ATM skimming on a large scale, is now purchased online for the purpose of abusing it in real-life by<a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/06/citibank-atm-se.html"> embedding the valid information into plastic cards</a>.<div class="feedflare">
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      <title><![CDATA[Price Discrimination in the Market for Stolen Credit Cards]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[What would be the price of a stolen credit card with an already verified balance, and based on what factors would the sellers come up with the price range? Depends on who you're buying the goods from....]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp0.blogger.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SETi0ojgL_I/AAAAAAAABw4/fcvOye2Mi78/s1600-h/credit_cards_price_discrimination.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer;" src="http://bp0.blogger.com/_wICHhTiQmrA/SETi0ojgL_I/AAAAAAAABw4/fcvOye2Mi78/s200/credit_cards_price_discrimination.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5207536463014539250" border="0" /></a>What would be the price of a stolen credit card with an already verified balance, and based on what factors would the sellers come up with the price range? Depends on who you're buying the goods from. Continuing the discussion on the <a href="http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/2007/03/underground-economys-supply-of-goods.html">Underground Economy's Supply of Goods</a>, the service I'll comment on in this post is among the countless number of others offering stolen credit card numbers, however, in this one we have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination">a great example of price discrimination</a> compared to the majority of other propositions, emphasizing on a volume basis propositions - the more you buy the cheaper it gets.<br /><br />Let's go through this proposition differentiating itself on the basis of the balance available on a per bank basis :<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Bank Of America/Between 2k - 50k/400$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- WellsFargo/Between 4k - 40k/300$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Chase Bank/Between 2k - 30k/250$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Citibank/Between 9k - 70k/300$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Wachovia/Between 2k - 18k/275$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Barclays/Any Balance/400$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- HSBC/Between 30k - 312k/400$ up to 100k=600$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Halifax/Between 20k 180k/450$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Nationwide/Between 15k - 230k/450$</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">- Lloyds TSB/Between 10k - 400k/600$</span><br /><br />How they come up with these prices remains a subject to speculation, what's important to point out is that in between the price discrimination used here on a good that in reality is a commodity good, is that they're cashing-in on the high profit margins since when investing the time and efforts into stealing these credit card numbers though banker malware infected PCs, they weren't even aware of what their ROI would be, consequently any price set would be a profitable price outpacing the investments they've made into obtaining the accounting data.<br /><br />We can also theoretically have the same seller making propositions on a volume basis, operating another site this time targeting different marketing segment, where the site itself would have also been advertised to reach that very segment. What he's enjoying is the overall lack of market transparency and the fact that it's not a daily practice for someone to come across sites selling stolen credit card details, which is where the first proposition would take place. The second, the one on a volume basis, would be targeting the experienced identity thieves who never even consider spending so much money on a good that they come across to, and have good understanding of the market, thus, know where to find bargain deals for it.<br /><br />Who's supplying the bargain deals anyway, and how are the bargain deals affecting the behavior of the experienced sellers in the market? New market entrants that suddenly managed to get hold of huge amounts of stolen credit cards, consciously or subconsciously introduce <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penetration_pricing">penetration pricing</a> in the market. Basically, they are aware of several services and they prices they charge for the goods offered, so on the basis of these prices they start to on purposely undercutting them in order to achieve the necessary growth during the introduction period.<br /><br />With the ever decreasing cost required to conduct cybercrime, any investment made would automatically result in a positive return on investment. Moreover, for the time being, there's no way we can even consider talking about the average price for a stolen credit card number, as everyone is playing by their own rules, with only a few exceptions using basic market principles. So if you even come across an article or a report stating that the price of a certain good is the specific amount of money pointed out, don't take the number of granted, as this is just one of the many such servics and propositons the researchers came across to, not the average.<br /><br />Ironically, just like you have publicly available backdoored versions of Mpack and Icepack aiming to trick the average script kiddies into providing those who backdoored the kits with the opportunity to hijack their successful campaigns, that's of course next to the backdoored phishing pages released in the very same fashion, we also have scammers trying to scam other scammers by pitching the stolen credit cards and never "delivering the goods".<div class="feedflare">
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      <description><![CDATA[It's a truism in sales that it's easier to sell someone something he wants than something he wants to avoid. People are reluctant to buy insurance, or home security devices, or computer security...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's a truism in sales that it's easier to sell someone something he wants than something he wants to avoid. People are reluctant to buy insurance, or home security devices, or computer security anything. It's not they don't ever buy these things, but it's an uphill struggle. </p>

<p>The reason is psychological. And it's the same dynamic when it's a security vendor trying to sell its products or services, a CIO trying to convince senior management to invest in security or a security officer trying to implement a security policy with her company's employees. </p>

<p>It's also true that the better you understand your buyer, the better you can sell. </p>

<p>First, a bit about Prospect Theory, the underlying theory behind the newly popular field of behavioral economics. Prospect Theory was developed by Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky in 1979 (Kahneman went on to win a Nobel Prize for this and other similar work) to explain how people make trade-offs that involve risk. Before this work, economists had a model of "economic man," a rational being who makes trade-offs based on some logical calculation. Kahneman and Tversky showed that real people are far more subtle and ornery. </p>

<p>Here's an experiment that illustrates Prospect Theory. Take a roomful of subjects and divide them into two groups. Ask one group to choose between these two alternatives: a sure gain of $500 and 50 percent chance of gaining $1,000. Ask the other group to choose between these two alternatives: a sure loss of $500 and a 50 percent chance of losing $1,000. </p>

<p>These two trade-offs are very similar, and traditional economics predicts that the whether you're contemplating a gain or a loss doesn't make a difference: People make trade-offs based on a straightforward calculation of the relative outcome. Some people prefer sure things and others prefer to take chances. Whether the outcome is a gain or a loss doesn't affect the mathematics and therefore shouldn't affect the results. This is traditional economics, and it's called Utility Theory. </p>

<p>But Kahneman's and Tversky's experiments contradicted Utility Theory. When faced with a gain, about 85 percent of people chose the sure smaller gain over the risky larger gain. But when faced with a loss, about 70 percent chose the risky larger loss over the sure smaller loss. </p>

<p>This experiment, repeated again and again by many researchers, across ages, genders, cultures and even species, rocked economics, yielded the same result. Directly contradicting the traditional idea of "economic man," Prospect Theory recognizes that people have subjective values for gains and losses. We have evolved a cognitive bias: a pair of heuristics. One, a sure gain is better than a chance at a greater gain, or "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." And two, a sure loss is worse than a chance at a greater loss, or "Run away and live to fight another day." Of course, these are not rigid rules. Only a fool would take a sure $100 over a 50 percent chance at $1,000,000. But all things being equal, we tend to be risk-adverse when it comes to gains and risk-seeking when it comes to losses.</p>

<p>This cognitive bias is so powerful that it can lead to logically inconsistent results. Google the "Asian Disease Experiment" for an almost surreal example. Describing the same policy choice in different ways--either as "200 lives saved out of 600" or "400 lives lost out of 600"-- yields wildly different risk reactions. </p>

<p>Evolutionarily, the bias makes sense. It's a better survival strategy to accept small gains rather than risk them for larger ones, and to risk larger losses rather than accept smaller losses. Lions, for example, chase young or wounded wildebeests because the investment needed to kill them is lower. Mature and healthy prey would probably be more nutritious, but there's a risk of missing lunch entirely if it gets away. And a small meal will tide the lion over until another day. Getting through today is more important than the possibility of having food tomorrow. Similarly, it is better to risk a larger loss than to accept a smaller loss. Because animals tend to live on the razor's edge between starvation and reproduction, any loss of food -- whether small or large -- can be equally bad. Because both can result in death, and the best option is to risk everything for the chance at no loss at all. </p>

<p>How does Prospect Theory explain the difficulty of selling the prevention of a security breach? It's a choice between a small sure loss -- the cost of the security product -- and a large risky loss: for example, the results of an attack on one's network. Of course there's a lot more to the sale. The buyer has to be convinced that the product works, and he has to understand the threats against him and the risk that something bad will happen. But all things being equal, buyers would rather take the chance that the attack won't happen than suffer the sure loss that comes from purchasing the security product. </p>

<p>Security sellers know this, even if they don't understand why, and are continually trying to frame their products in positive results. That's why you see slogans with the basic message, "We take care of security so you can focus on your business," or carefully crafted ROI models that demonstrate how profitable a security purchase can be. But these never seem to work. Security is fundamentally a negative sell. </p>

<p>One solution is to stoke fear. Fear is a primal emotion, far older than our ability to calculate trade-offs. And when people are truly scared, they're willing to do almost anything to make that feeling go away; lots of other psychological research supports that. Any burglar alarm salesman will tell you that people buy only after they've been robbed, or after one of their neighbors has been robbed. And the fears stoked by 9/11, and the politics surrounding 9/11, have fueled an entire industry devoted to counterterrorism. When emotion takes over like that, people are much less likely to think rationally. </p>

<p>Though effective, fear mongering is not very ethical. The better solution is not to sell security directly, but to include it as part of a more general product or service. Your car comes with safety and security features built in; they're not sold separately. Same with your house. And it should be the same with computers and networks. Vendors need to build security into the products and services that customers actually want. CIOs should include security as an integral part of everything they budget for. Security shouldn't be a separate policy for employees to follow but part of overall IT policy. </p>

<p>Security is inherently about avoiding a negative, so you can never ignore the cognitive bias embedded so deeply in the human brain. But if you understand it, you have a better chance of overcoming it.</p>

<p>This essay <a href="http://www.cio.com/article/367913/How_to_Sell_Security">originally appeared</a> in <i>CIO</i>.</p><div class="feedflare">
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