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    <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Root of Trust ?]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Ive given some talks this year about the Internets insecure infrastructure stressing that fundamental protocols such as BGP and DNS cannot really be trusted at the moment. Although they work just fine...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve given <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/talks/080211-mailserver.pdf">some</a> <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/talks/080915-ISPsecurity.pdf">talks</a> this year about the Internet&#8217;s insecure infrastructure &#8212; stressing that fundamental protocols such as <a href="http://www.bgp4.as/">BGP</a> and <a href="http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596100575/">DNS</a> cannot really be trusted at the moment. Although they work just fine most of the time, they are susceptible to attacks which can mean, for example, that you visit the wrong website, or your email is intercepted.</p>
<p>Steps are now being taken, <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2008/08/dns_security_mandatory_for_all.html">rather faster</a> since Dan Kaminsky came up with a <a href="http://www.doxpara.com/?p=1185">really effective DNS poisoning attack</a>, to secure DNS by using <a href="http://www.dnssec.net/">DNSSEC</a>.</p>
<p>The basic idea of DNSSEC is that when you get an answer from the DNS it will be signed by someone you trust. At some point the &#8220;trust anchor&#8221; for the system will be &#8220;.&#8221; the DNS root, but for the moment there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.unbound.net/documentation/howto_anchor.html">just a handful of &#8220;trust anchors&#8221; one level down</a> from that. One such anchor is the &#8220;.se&#8221; country code domain for Sweden. Additionally, Brazil (.br), Puerto Rico (.pr), and Bulgaria (.bg) have signed their zones, but that&#8217;s about it for today.</p>
<p>So, wishing to get some experience with the <a href="http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/bravenew/">brave new world</a> of DNSSEC, I decided that Sweden was <a href="http://www.cartoonbank.com/item/25468">the &#8220;in&#8221; place to be</a>, and to purchase &#8220;cloudba.se&#8221; and roll out my first DNSSEC signed domain.</p>
<p>The purchase wasn&#8217;t as easy as it might have been &#8212; when you buy a domain, Sweden <a href="http://www.iis.se/docs/general_conditions.pdf">insists</a> that people provide their <a href="http://www.papersplease.org/id.html">identity numbers</a> (albeit they have absolutely no way of checking if you&#8217;re telling the truth) &#8212; or if a company they want a VAT or registration number (which are checkable, albeit I suspect they didn&#8217;t bother). I also found that they don&#8217;t like spaces in the VAT number &#8212; which held things up for a while!</p>
<p>However, eventually they sent me a PGP signed email to tell me I was now the proud owner of &#8220;cloudba.se&#8221;.  Unfortunately, this email wasn&#8217;t in RFC3156 PGP/MIME format (or any other format that my usually <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnpike_(software)">pretty capable email client</a> understood).</p>
<p>The email was signed with key 0xF440EE9B which was reassuring because the <a href="http://www.iis.se/">.se registry</a> gives the fingerprint for this key on their website <a href="https://domainmanager.iis.se/start/customerservice">here</a>. Rather less reassuringly footnote (*) next to the fingerprint says &#8220;<em>.SE signature for outgoing e-mail. (**) June 1 through August 31.</em>&#8221; (the (**) is for a second level of footnote, which is absent &#8212; and of course it is now September).</p>
<p>They also enable you to fetch the key through a link on <a href="http://www.iis.se/support">this page</a> to their &#8220;PGP nyckel-ID&#8221; at <a href="http://subkeys.pgp.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&#038;search=0xFCEC5128F440EE9B">http://subkeys.pgp.net</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, fetching the key shows that the signature on the email is invalid.</p>
<p>Since the email seems to have originated in the Windows world, but was signed on a Linux box (giving it a mixture of 0D 0A and 0A line endings), then pushed through a three year old copy of <a href="http://search.cpan.org/dist/MIME-tools/">MIME-tools</a> I suppose the failure isn&#8217;t too surprising. But strictly the invalid signature means that I shouldn&#8217;t trust the email&#8217;s contents at all &#8212; because the contents have definitely been tampered with since the signature was applied.</p>
<p>Since the point of the email was to get me to login for the first time to the registry website and set my password to control the domain, this is a little <a href="http://www.cartoonbank.com/item/32907">unfortunate</a>.</p>
<p>Even if the signature had been correct, then should I trust the PGP key?</p>
<p>Well it is pointed to from the registry website which is a Good Thing. However, they do themselves no favours by referencing a version on <a href="http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html">the public key servers</a>. I checked who had signed the key (which is an <a href="http://www.pgpi.org/doc/pgpintro/#p20">alternative way of trusting its provenance</a> &#8212; since the email had arrived to a non-DNSSEC secured domain). Turned out there was no-one I knew, and of 4 individual signatures, 2 were from expired keys. The other signature was the IIS root key &#8212; which sounds promising. That has 8 signatures, once again not people I know &#8212; but only 1 from a non-expired key, so perhaps I can get to know some of the other 7?</p>
<p>Of course, anyone can sign a key on a public key server, so perhaps it makes sense for .se to suggest that people fetch a key with as many signatures as possible &#8212; there&#8217;s more chance of it being signed by someone they know. Anyway, I have now added my own signature, using an email address at my nice shiny new domain. However, it is possible that I may not have increased the level of trust <img src='http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><img src="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/signers.png" alt="" title="Signers of the .se PGP key" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-381"></p>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2008/09/29/root-of-trust/">Root of Trust ?</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Is PCI DSS "Too Prescriptive"?]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/3dfc59dd4876349ed35372715a67d3d7</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I did this fun panel on PCI compliance at SecureWorld Bay Area the other week. What is interesting is that almost every time there is a discussion about PCI DSS, somebody crawls out of the woodwork...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did this <u><a href="http://secureworldexpo.com/events/index.php?id=255">fun panel on PCI compliance at SecureWorld Bay Area</a></u> the other week. What is interesting is that almost every time there is a discussion about PCI DSS, somebody crawls out of the woodwork and utters the following: &quot;<strong>PCI is too prescriptive!</strong>&quot;, as if it is a bad thing (e.g. I mentioned it before <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/04/rsa-impressions-2-compliance.html">here</a>)</p>  <p>I used to react to this with &quot;<em>Are you stupid?!</em> PCI being prescriptive is the best thing since sliced cake :-) Finally, there is some specific guidance for people to follow and be more secure!&quot; BTW, in many cases end users who have to comply with PCI DSS <strong>still</strong> think it is &quot;too fuzzy&quot; and &quot;not specific enough&quot; (e.g. see <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/02/must-do-logging-for-pci.html">&quot;MUST-DO Logging for PCI&quot;</a></u>); and they basically ask for&#160; &quot;<strong>a compliance TODO list</strong>.&quot; (also see <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/08/few-more-words-on-dlp-and-compliance.html">this</a> and especially <a href="http://securosis.com/2008/08/18/dont-sell-compliance-if-it-isnt-a-checkbox/">this</a> on compliance checklists)</p>  <p>But every time it happens, I can't stop but think - why do people even utter such utter heresy? :-) And you know what?&#160; I think I got it!</p>  <p>When people say &quot;PCI is too prescriptive,&quot; they actually mean that it engenders &quot;<u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/04/rsa-impressions-2-compliance.html">checklist mentality</a></u>&quot; and leads to following the letter of the mandate blindly, without thinking about WHY it was put in place (to protect cardholder data, share risk/responsibility, etc). For example, it says &quot;use a firewall&quot; and so they deploy a shiny firewall with a simple &quot;ALLOW ALL&lt;-&gt;ALL&quot; rule (an obvious exaggeration - but you get the point!) Or they have <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2008/09/dumb-luck-is-strategy.html">a firewall with a default password unchanged</a></u>... In addition, the proponents of &quot;PCI is too prescriptive&quot; tend to think that fuzzier guidance (and, especially, prescribing the desired end state AND not the tools to be installed) will lead to people actually thinking about the best way to do it.</p>  <p>So the choices are:</p>  <ol>   <li><strong>Mandate the tools</strong> (e.g. &quot;must use a firewall&quot;) - <strong>and risk</strong> &quot;checklist mentality&quot;, resulting in BOTH insecurity and &quot;false sense&quot; of security. </li>    <li><strong>Mandate the results</strong> (e.g. &quot;must be secure&quot;) -&#160; <strong>and risk</strong> people saying &quot;eh, but I dunno how&quot; - and then not acting at all, again leading to insecurity. </li> </ol>  <p>Take your poison now?! Isn't compliance fun? What is the practical solution to this? I personally would take the pill #1 over pill #2 (and that is why I like PCI <a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/2007/08/free-pci-compliance-book-chapter-on.html">that much</a>), but with some pause to think, for sure.&#160; I think organizations with less mature security programs will benefit at least a bit from #1, while those with more mature programs might &quot;enjoy&quot; #2 more...</p>  <p>BTW, this post was originally called &quot;Isn't Compliance Fun?!&quot;&#160; I had a few fierce debates with some friends and all of them&#160; piled on me to convince me that &quot;compliance is boring, while security is fun!&quot; The above does illustrate that there are worthy and exciting intellectual challenges in the domain of regulatory compliance. It is not [only] a domain of minimalists (who just &quot;want the auditor to go away&quot;) and <u><a href="http://securityincite.com/blog/mike-rothman/rise-up-against-mediocrity">mediocrity</a></u>, as some think. What makes security fun - the people aspect, the ever-changing threat landscape, cool technology, high uncertainty, even risk - also apply to compliance ...</p>  <p>So, need a cool marketing slogan BUT <u></u><a href="http://securityincite.com/blog/mike-rothman/pragmatic-cso-podcast-10-its-so-easy">hate &quot;making compliance easy&quot;</a>?&#160; Go for &quot;Making Compliance Fun!&quot; :-)</p>  <p><u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/PCI">All posts on PCI</a></u> - some are fun:-)</p>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AntonChuvakinPersonalBlog/~3/400214601/is-pci-dss-prescriptive.html">Is PCI DSS "Too Prescriptive"?</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Relax, the Net Backbone Has Space for Your Lolcats]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/b00a463d2bb0a5e64116bda67d599849</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Many people have feared that lolcats and other traffic are going to block the tubes, but Ars says today that the net backbone bandwidth is in fact growing and plenty prepared to swallow those cats....]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people have feared that lolcats and other traffic are going to block the &#8216;tubes, but Ars says today that the net backbone bandwidth is in fact growing and plenty prepared to swallow those cats. Actually they use a prettier analogy&#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>Given recent media coverage, it&#8217;s easy to believe that P2P and streaming video traffic is a rising hurricane battering upon ISP levees, that ISPs are frantically sandbagging their systems against disaster, that throttling, bandwidth caps, and traffic management are urgent and absolute necessities to keep the storm surge at bay. But new research from Telegeography only confirms what we&#8217;ve been saying for some time: the Internet backbone isn&#8217;t drowning beneath any kind of exaflood. In fact, backbone capacity has grown faster than Internet traffic in the last year—for the second year in a row.</p></blockquote>
<p>Check out the <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080903-what-exaflood-net-backbone-shows-no-signs-of-osteoporosis.html">full article</a>, it even has some shiny graphs. It also reminds me of <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://xkcd.com/470/">XKCD</a> the other day&#8230; header: &#8220;I get in trouble for showing up contented to protests,&#8221; and the stick figure&#8217;s holding signs: &#8220;Things are pretty OK!&#8221; and &#8220;Anyone for Scrabble later?&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/itsecurity/~3/382565188/">Relax, the Net Backbone Has Space for Your Lolcats</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[The Magical ATM Card and SMS Message in Thailand]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/1ba59a13d2493ca9d5042d5c2f7ceb4e</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[It was not too long ago that I penned Keyloggers: Why Banks Need Two-Factor Authentication . In that post, I briefly mentioned how a number of banks in Thailand use inexpensive SMS-based two-factor...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was not too long ago that I penned <a href="http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/01/14/keyloggers-why-banks-need-two-factor-authentication/">Keyloggers: Why Banks Need Two-Factor Authentication</a>. In that post, I briefly mentioned how a number of banks in Thailand use inexpensive SMS-based two-factor authentication (2FA) with one-time password (OTP) to authenticate transactions.</p>
<p>One of my favorite banks in Thailand is <a href="http://www.kasikornbank.com/portal/site/KBank/?" target="_blank">K-Bank</a>. With K-Bank I can simply walk up to an ATM machine and pay a mobile phone bill, purchase mutual funds, buy insurance, or transact an ever-growing list of services payable at the modern and sleek K-Bank ATM.</p>
<p>For example, tomorrow I fly to Chiang Mai in Northern Thailand and found K-Bank&#8217;s service amazingly better than in the US. For example, I booked my flight as usual (over the phone, but could have used the Internet) and told the reservation agent I was going to pay by ATM. He simply gave me a PayCode and told me I had three hours to go to the ATM and enter the PayCode to perfect my reservation.  I also got the PayCode via SMS.  This gave me the time I needed to make sure I had <a href="http://www.r24.org/whatsonchiangmai.com/chiangmai/fernparadise/pictures/" target="_blank">booked the perfect boutique hotel</a> in Chiang Mai, the <strong><a href="http://www.r24.org/whatsonchiangmai.com/chiangmai/fernparadise/review/" target="_blank">Fern Paradise</a>.</strong></p>
<p>Then, I went out into the beautiful Thai weather and completely my airplane reservation at the ATM machine; which also printed out a receipt with my flight details and reservation number.</p>
<p>It sometimes amazes me how much further advanced some services are in Thailand compared to the US. To me, it feels more secure not to use an on-line payment center or give out my credit card details over the phone. I can simply book a ticket, take a PayCode, and complete the transaction at a nice modern, shiny, K-Bank ATM machine.</p>
<p>Who knows, maybe soon I can select the perfect window seat at the ATM and the receipt will act as my boarding pass!</p>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 09:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.thecepblog.com/2008/08/03/the-magical-atm-card-and-sms-message-in-thailand/">The Magical ATM Card and SMS Message in Thailand</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Welcome back to the IT Security Blog!]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/9b2e2c1c3ca634908f2e7408983e59a4</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Weve been in hiatus a bit longer than intended. Blame natural disasters I was on vacation for a bit and then came down with an uncomfortable cold virus. Then, due to an accident with a shiny new...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve been in hiatus a bit longer than intended. Blame natural disasters &#8212; I was on vacation for a bit and then came down with an uncomfortable cold virus. Then, due to an accident with a shiny new kitchen knife, one of my fingers is now wrapped in gauze and strongly resembles a finger-puppet version of the stay puft marshmallow man.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good reminder for all you folks&#8211; <strong><em>always plan ahead and have a good backup and recovery strategy. </em></strong>It might also be a good idea to make sure someone on your staff has first aid and medical training in case of office emergencies, acts of god, and the occasional pirate attack.</p>
<p>Lo and behold time works its wonders and I can type again. Watch me rejoice! And post interesting articles for your professional entertainment. Stay tuned.</p>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[Mission Statement for Federation]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/9794bcabb05d5a9a4ad01ef54236e5df</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Bruce Sterling (11/20/2001
You know what I want? I don't want a National ID Card. I want a Global Coalition Visa



Like it or not, we've got a huge global diaspora now. It is a fact of life. Nations...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-family: &#39;times new roman&#39;; font-size: 16px; line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 2px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 2px; "></span></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "><a href="http://www.viridiandesign.org/notes/251-300/00283_geeks_and_spooks.html">Bruce Sterling</a> (11/20/2001):</p><blockquote><p>You know what I want? I don&#39;t want a National ID Card. I want a Global Coalition Visa.</p></blockquote><p></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><blockquote><p>Like it or not, we&#39;ve got a huge global diaspora now. It is a fact of life. Nations with stupid and corrupt politics have seen their clever people brain- drained away, to places where the cops don&#39;t shake you down twice a day. And jet-setters go everywhere. And properly so. If you&#39;re in a true global society, then you spend a lot of your time among aliens. Quite often you are the alien. You might notice that even Al Qaeda is a genuinely multinational group. They gravitated to wicked, lawless places like Sudan, Chechnya and Afghanistan, where the locals shoot you if you ask for a badge.</p></blockquote><p></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><blockquote><p>But what about all us bright, shiny, world-trading jet setters, huh? There are thirty percent fewer Yankees in Europe this Christmas, and that is bad. Let me pose the problem this way. If I am going into a Japanese restaurant in Japan, I would rather like to be able to haul out some gizmo and flash it at my fellow civilians, and have these kindly people understand with a high degree of likelihood that I am not a mass murderer. On the contrary, I am quite civilized, and I should be brought a beer immediately.</p></blockquote><p></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><blockquote><p>A platinum VISA card and a five-hundred-dollar suit will almost do that, but those are too easy to forge and steal, plus they are not very democratic. The UN should get together on this. We should have a high level summit about digital hardware support for the crippled tourist economy. Fear and ill treatment shut down tourism faster than anything short of open warfare. That is bad for all of us. Killing off tourism harms our civilization and impoverishes our cultures. People in civilized states shouldn&#39;t routinely treat one another as criminal suspects. I don&#39;t want to get done-over for three hours every time I get off a plane in London. When I go to London, I go with empty suitcases. I don&#39;t plan to stay, but I am better news for the London economy than a lot of the people who live there.</p></blockquote><p></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><blockquote><p>They should know all that that&#0160;<span style="font-weight: bold; ">before<span style="font-weight: normal; ">&#0160;I get off the plane. My arrival is excellent news for Britain, so I should be treated that way. If this is a new kind of war, I don&#39;t want to be the evil guy hunkered down in the bunker; I want to fly with the boys from Air Assault. I want one of those handy crypto-style Friend-or-Foe IDs.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><blockquote><p>These people who normally meet me whenever I am an alien, they don&#39;t need to know my nationality, my home address or my shoe size. They just need to know that, despite being alien, I&#39;m sort-of okay.</p></blockquote><p></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><p style="font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: 24px; "></p><blockquote><p>I want a democratic, citizen-to-citizen device that will bridge those social barriers and language barriers. I think we could invent devices and means of verification that would strengthen the global social fabric that terrorism wants to rip. It wouldn&#39;t be easy or simple, but it&#39;s not beyond our ingenuity. Our social capital sustains all civilized societies, and it is all about trust. <span style="font-weight: bold;">So let&#39;s invent new methods of trust.</span></p></blockquote><p>I added bold to the last sentence because I think this is the mission statement for building out federation systems.</p><p></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded>
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      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/673e8180fd78aec9c906c77e3732eaf4</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Prerequisite: read this (thanks Raffy). Stop reading right before you reach the last line though :-) Then maybe read this too (thanks anonymous
Next, insert appropriate morbid jokes for &quot; IDS is dead...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prerequisite: read <a href="http://blogs.splunk.com/raffy/2008/06/23/security-information-management-sim-is-dead">this</a> (thanks Raffy). Stop reading right before you reach the last line though :-)&nbsp; Then maybe <a href="http://www.prismmicrosys.com/Logtalk/?p=20">read this</a> too (thanks anonymous).</p> <p>Next, insert appropriate morbid jokes &lt;here&gt; for "<a href="http://www.gartner.com/5_about/press_releases/pr11june2003c.jsp">IDS is dead</a>", "<a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/27459">NAC is dead</a>", "<a href="http://securosis.com/2008/05/13/grc-is-dead/">GRC is dead</a>", everybody is dead... WTF? Are we at the cemetery or what? Is "dead" dead? Yeah, but it came back as a zombie :-) So, "dead" is a "living dead" "dead" now. Ha*3.</p> <p>Finally, think! Why were you thinking of buying a SIEM? 'Cause the big "G" in the sky said so? And while you are thinking, check these fun points out:</p> <ol> <li>Does your SIEM require 17 beefy servers to operate? How many gallons of foreign oil have to go up in smoke to power that mammoth up? And you know what happened to mammoths, don't you?  <li>If your "high-performance" SIEM appliance can only run 5 correlation rules at the same time, what "high" do they mean, really? Hold this thought....  <li>Is five field engineers, two developers and CTO enough to install it? Who else needs to help? Ah, sorry, I missed the DBA :-)  <li>Do you know when "If CustomVariable17 = Value5" condition matches? Will you still remember it in a year?  <li>Can you tell "taxonomy" from "ontology"? You can now? Good for you. Are you more secure now? More efficient? Compliant?  <li>How many shifts of security analysts do you have watching the shiny consoles 24/7? If zero, then why - oh - why those consoles are running in the first place? "If a tree falls..." - you know how this one ends. Correct! You get hit by the bough.  <li>When was the last time you built a custom agent for parsing and normalizing, say, SAP logs? Did it work? What did you do after it didn't? Cried? And did it help? Then a burly vendor SE showed up, charged you $37,600 and left? Happy now?  <li>Do you automatically correlate IDS/IPS alerts with vulnerability data ... for client-side attacks? Really? :-)  <li>There are dozens of firewall, IDS/IPS, router, etc brands, each with its own log type. This is actually simple! But there are thousands upon thousands of applications in use today. Some have logs. All are different. Care to build rules for that? Now you <em>finally</em> know why SIEM vendors <em>don't parse their own</em> Java logs (no shit!)  <li>Do you know what "threat x vulnerability x <em>random()</em>" equals to? Yup, it still equals <em>random()</em>. Automated prioritization, you say?  <li>Do you know why some SIEM vendors are migrating to IT GRC now? So they can go and die there ... quietly.</li></ol> <p>All in all, I have to <a href="http://blogs.splunk.com/raffy/2008/06/23/security-information-management-sim-is-dead/#comment-1332">agree with Raffy</a> to a large extent!&nbsp; The world has evolved - and SIEM has not. It might not be dead (as old attacks and defenses never really die and large organization still build and man massive SOCs where SIEM is "a must"), but in this age of web application hacking, CSRF and XSS, phishing, PCI DSS, massive bot armies, client-side 0-days, stealth malware, etc, paying $x,000,000 for a pile of ugly Java code is insane ... As a result, SIEM has greatly diminished in importance and has become just one small thing you might do with logs and some other data. What made it so? Mostly implementation complexity - but a slew of other factors mentioned above as well.</p> <p>So, consider this instead:</p> <ul> <li>Compliance? "Sorry, buddy, you need <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">this</a> for compliance, not <u><a href="http://chuvakin.blogspot.com/search/label/SIEM">that</a></u>. "  <li>Want to simplify your incident response? Get <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">log management</a> and <strong>fly through all your logs</strong>, not <em>crawl through some of them. </em> <li>Have a very real need to dig into your logs for troubleshooting or tracking that pesky user? <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">Log management</a> works.</li></ul> <p>Now, what if you have a latent and vague desire to "correlate something" and a million nice greenbacks to flush down the drain? OK, go get your SIEM toy for $780,000 + 20% maintenance/year ... a true bargain (<em>price valid today only</em>).</p> <p>Finally, I would like to end this on an optimistic note. Do we need more intelligence to analyze the log data we have collected? Of course! Do we have a widest set of log use cases from today's security&nbsp; to tomorrow's regulations? You bet. And, for <a href="http://www.raffy.ch/blog/">you Raffy</a>, I'd add "... we also have other data to analyze together with logs." So, can we "reinvent SIEM?" Yes, I think so! It just hasn't been done yet ... For now, just use <a href="http://www.loglogic.com">log management.</a></p> <div class="wlWriterSmartContent" id="scid:0767317B-992E-4b12-91E0-4F059A8CECA8:bbd77171-6078-4829-b04e-f71e64e80d0a" style="padding-right: 0px; display: inline; padding-left: 0px; float: none; padding-bottom: 0px; margin: 0px; padding-top: 0px">Technorati tags: <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/SIEM" rel="tag">SIEM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/SIM" rel="tag">SIM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/SEM" rel="tag">SEM</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/log%20management" rel="tag">log management</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/humor" rel="tag">humor</a>, <a href="http://technorati.com/tags/security" rel="tag">security</a></div>  <div class="blogger-post-footer">About me: http://www.chuvakin.org</div><div class="feedflare">
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      <source url="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/AntonChuvakinPersonalBlog/~3/320020300/11-signs-that-your-siem-is-dog-or-you.html">11 Signs That Your SIEM Is A Dog or "Raffy, You Killed SIM!"</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Security Circumvented: My Anti-Virus]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/5704ba277530cbbd6aec5c9efb9863d9</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I recently needed to renew the anti-virus subscription on my tablet PC. Of course, Symantec popped up and let me know well in advance, and of course, I waited until the almost-last-day before I...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I recently needed to renew the anti-virus subscription</strong> on my tablet PC. Of course, Symantec popped up and let me know well in advance, and of course, I waited until the almost-last-day before I renewed. </p><p>When my renewal options appeared, there was a selection to upgrade to the shiny new Norton 360. Woo hoo! It listed all these great new security features&#8230; I don&#8217;t remember what they were&#8230; but, they sounded REALLY great (I promise).</p><p>So I went with the upgrade, instead of the anti-virus signature renewal. <em>Okay</em>. </p><p>It did <strong>seem</strong> like a good idea at the time. However, in addition to my overly-protective Vista popups eeeevvvvery time I want to run something, connect somewhere, or wipe my nose&#8230; Now, I have the Vista pop up AND the Norton 360 popup.&nbsp;<em>Okay</em>.</p><p>Except, the Norton pops up with flagrantly ambiguous information like &#8220;An application is trying to access your Internet.&#8221; Do I want to allow it? I don&#8217;t know. How am I supposed to know-&nbsp;<strong>which</strong> application wants to access my Internet? Oh, it&#8217;s not going to tell me. <em>Okay</em>.</p><p>Well, I guess I&#8217;ll click &#8216;Allow&#8217; because I have no clue <strong>what</strong> is trying to access my Internet, but I&#8217;ll assume it&#8217;s something that I have somehow asked to access my Internet&#8230; and I&#8217;ll be quite upset if whatever I clicked on doesn&#8217;t work. So YES, ALLOW. <em>Okay again.</em></p><p>And what was the point in that? One click has transformed to three, and I&#8217;m no more secure than I was before, I&#8217;m just being forced to make more clicks to <u>earn</u> my insecurity. So today I am the poster child of what NOT to do. </p><p><strong>Security circumvented</strong> is quite possibly worse than no security at all. I see visions of &#8216;invalid browser certificate&#8217; notices dancing in my head. </p><p># # #</p>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 23:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <source url="http://www.securityuncorked.com/security-uncorked/2008/6/20/security-circumvented-my-anti-virus.html">Security Circumvented: My Anti-Virus</source>
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      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/698db8da5618195d0726b973ddf3a904</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[This post is intended to member of the Black Hat Bloggers Network and others who blog on security. When we announced our affiliation with the Black Hat folks, we said that between now and the show in...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><img title="Blackhatbloggers" alt="Blackhatbloggers" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/17/blackhatbloggers.gif" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" />This post is intended to member of the Black Hat Bloggers Network and others who blog on security.&nbsp; When we announced our affiliation with the Black Hat folks, we said that between now and the show in August we would pick topics of interest tied to presentations at Black Hat for us to &quot;shine a light on&quot;.&nbsp; With over 150 blogs in the network, if even a small percentage of us write on one particular topic that should be quite a concentration.&nbsp; I am looking forward to see the many different tangents our members will take these topics.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Our first topic comes to us from an SBN member who will be <a href="http://blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-08/bh-usa-08-speakers.html#Hoff">presenting at Black Hat</a>. It is one of our resident big brains, Chris Hoff talking about virtualization and security. I asked Chris to give me a quick write up on what he is presenting and here it is:</p>

<div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Despite shiny new stickers on the boxes of our favorite security vendors' products that advertise &quot;virtualization ready!&quot; </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">or the hordes of new startups emerging from stealth decrying the second coming of security, there exists the gritty failed </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">reality of attempting to replicate complex network and security topologies in virtualized environments.</span></span></div></div>

<p style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 9pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">This talk will clearly demonstrate that unless we radically rethink our approach, the virtualization security apocalypse is nigh!</span></span></p>

<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">We will focus on both securing virtualization as well as virtualizing security; from virtualization-enabled chipsets to the </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">hypervisor to the VM's, we'll explore the real issues that exist today as well as those that are coming that aren't being discussed&nbsp; </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">or planned for:</span></span></div>

<ul type="disc" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Some security things you do today are perfectly reasonable and work well in virtualized environments, others simply don???t work at all</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Virtualized Security can seriously impact performance, resiliency and scalability</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Replicating many highly-available security applications and network topologies in virtual switches don???t work</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Monolithic security vendor virtual appliances are the virtualization version of the UTM argument</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Virtualizing security will not save you money, it will cost you more</span></span></li></ul>

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<p><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">You can read more on this at Chris's blog <a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/04/the-four-horsem.html">here</a>. So bloggers here is the deal.&nbsp; You have what Hoff thinks, what do you think.&nbsp; Wrap your heads around virtualization and security and lets hear what you have to say.&nbsp; We will all be reading!&nbsp; ON YOUR MARK, GET SET, BLOG!</span></span></p>

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      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/23f260c5560a22b03a72bbb30b873d40</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[This post is intended to member of the Black Hat Bloggers Network and others who blog on security. When we announced our affiliation with the Black Hat folks, we said that between now and the show in...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><img title="Blackhatbloggers" alt="Blackhatbloggers" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/17/blackhatbloggers.gif" border="0" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 5px 5px 0px" />This post is intended to member of the Black Hat Bloggers Network and others who blog on security.&nbsp; When we announced our affiliation with the Black Hat folks, we said that between now and the show in August we would pick topics of interest tied to presentations at Black Hat for us to &quot;shine a light on&quot;.&nbsp; With over 150 blogs in the network, if even a small percentage of us write on one particular topic that should be quite a concentration.&nbsp; I am looking forward to see the many different tangents our members will take these topics.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Our first topic comes to us from an SBN member who will be <a href="http://blackhat.com/html/bh-usa-08/bh-usa-08-speakers.html#Hoff">presenting at Black Hat</a>. It is one of our resident big brains, Chris Hoff talking about virtualization and security. I asked Chris to give me a quick write up on what he is presenting and here it is:</p>

<div><div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Despite shiny new stickers on the boxes of our favorite security vendors' products that advertise &quot;virtualization ready!&quot; </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">or the hordes of new startups emerging from stealth decrying the second coming of security, there exists the gritty failed </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">reality of attempting to replicate complex network and security topologies in virtualized environments.</span></span></div></div>

<p style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 9pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">This talk will clearly demonstrate that unless we radically rethink our approach, the virtualization security apocalypse is nigh!</span></span></p>

<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">We will focus on both securing virtualization as well as virtualizing security; from virtualization-enabled chipsets to the </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">hypervisor to the VM's, we'll explore the real issues that exist today as well as those that are coming that aren't being discussed&nbsp; </span></span><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">or planned for:</span></span></div>

<ul type="disc" style="MARGIN-TOP: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0in"><li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Some security things you do today are perfectly reasonable and work well in virtualized environments, others simply don’t work at all</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Virtualized Security can seriously impact performance, resiliency and scalability</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Replicating many highly-available security applications and network topologies in virtual switches don’t work</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Monolithic security vendor virtual appliances are the virtualization version of the UTM argument</span></span> </li>

<li class="MsoNormal" align="justify" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Virtualizing security will not save you money, it will cost you more</span></span></li></ul>

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<p><span face="Helvetica" style="font-size: 0.6em;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">You can read more on this at Chris's blog <a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/04/the-four-horsem.html">here</a>. So bloggers here is the deal.&nbsp; You have what Hoff thinks, what do you think.&nbsp; Wrap your heads around virtualization and security and lets hear what you have to say.&nbsp; We will all be reading!&nbsp; ON YOUR MARK, GET SET, BLOG!</span></span></p>

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