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      <title><![CDATA[Ah, the joys of blogging!]]></title>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>People ask why do you blog?&nbsp; In the final analysis I blog because I like to. Every once in a while though you get a comment from a reader that reminds you why it is all worth while.&nbsp; Here is one I received today from a person alleging to be a Julie Peterson:</p><blockquote><p><em>Julie Peterson commented on </em><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/2008/04/safe-access-win.html"><em>Safe Access wins SC Magazine Award Reader Trust Award, again!</em></a><em>: </em></p>

<p><em>Dressed in a tuxedo and chewing those rubber chicken breasts at the award ceremony is your idea of fun? Aren't you the same mentally retarded idiot who said in 2007 that you hated SC awards and that anyone can buy the SC awards with a sponsorship? Why do you think people give over $10k as sponsorship for the SC awards? Who is watching the awards except other vendors? By the way you suck big time with your rubbish blogs. Didn't networld magazine give you the boot within 3 months? Think before you write Mr. mental. Well done on winning, but please, dont give the impression that you cant buy an award from SC! And don't forget to eat your medication pills tonight, otherwise from your hair it is obvious you ran away from a mental hospital.</em> </p></blockquote><p>First of all Julie, let me thank you for your kind words! You made the statement and let me answer your questions for you.</p>

<p>1. Is dressing in a tuxedo and chewing rubber chicken breasts my idea of fun?&nbsp; Actually, I do enjoy dressing up in a tuxedo once in a while.&nbsp; The food at the awards ceremony was actually pretty good, if not diet friendly, as were the cocktails.&nbsp; The entertainment at the awards show was pretty good as well. Catching up with friends you had not seen for a while and networking with industry peers was pretty worthwhile too.&nbsp; Maybe your idea of a good time is putting on a bowling shirt and swilling a couple of beers and pretzels before going home and undressing into your dirty ripped underwear. Hey I say to each his own.</p>

<p>2. I am not the idiot who in 2007 said that I hated the SC awards and that anyone can buy the SC awards with a sponsorship.&nbsp; I am the idiot who <a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/2007/08/ssaaty-blog-win.html">said that about the InfoSec Products Guide</a> award by the folks at Silicon Valley Communications.&nbsp; In contrast I have always said nice things about the SC awards. I actually have a lot of respect for them.&nbsp; Also for the record, StillSecure has never been a sponsor of the SC Magazine awards. I have seen sponsors who did not win awards as well.&nbsp; So looks like you got that one wrong Julie, but it happens.</p>

<p>3. ???Networld??? magazine didn???t give me the boot within 3 months.&nbsp; They never had the chance, as I never wrote for ???networld, network world or any other magazine. Maybe you have me confused with Mike Rothman or Mitchell Ashley, who do and did write for Network World. But let me assure you that I do try and think before I write.</p>

<p>4. Regarding what medication pills I take and does my hair make it obvious I ran away from a mental hospital. I don???t take any medication, maybe I should.&nbsp; Better living through chemistry you know ;-)&nbsp; As to my hair, what can I say.&nbsp; At this stage I am happy I have any hair at all.&nbsp; My wife always says when I get my haircut it looks like a Buzz Lightyear style, but no one ever mentioned a mental hospital look to it.&nbsp; In any event sorry it doesn???t appeal to you.</p>

<p>So who is this troll Julie Peterson?&nbsp; Could it be Richard Stiennon in drag?&nbsp; Maybe his wife striking out?&nbsp; Maybe another one of my fans?&nbsp; Who knows, but these sort of comments keep me juiced about blogging and remind me of how much fun I have doing it.&nbsp; Thanks again Julie!</p></div>
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      <title><![CDATA[Ah, the joys of blogging!]]></title>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>People ask why do you blog?&nbsp; In the final analysis I blog because I like to. Every once in a while though you get a comment from a reader that reminds you why it is all worth while.&nbsp; Here is one I received today from a person alleging to be a Julie Peterson:</p><blockquote><p><em>Julie Peterson commented on </em><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/2008/04/safe-access-win.html"><em>Safe Access wins SC Magazine Award Reader Trust Award, again!</em></a><em>: </em></p>

<p><em>Dressed in a tuxedo and chewing those rubber chicken breasts at the award ceremony is your idea of fun? Aren't you the same mentally retarded idiot who said in 2007 that you hated SC awards and that anyone can buy the SC awards with a sponsorship? Why do you think people give over $10k as sponsorship for the SC awards? Who is watching the awards except other vendors? By the way you suck big time with your rubbish blogs. Didn't networld magazine give you the boot within 3 months? Think before you write Mr. mental. Well done on winning, but please, dont give the impression that you cant buy an award from SC! And don't forget to eat your medication pills tonight, otherwise from your hair it is obvious you ran away from a mental hospital.</em> </p></blockquote><p>First of all Julie, let me thank you for your kind words! You made the statement and let me answer your questions for you.</p>

<p>1. Is dressing in a tuxedo and chewing rubber chicken breasts my idea of fun?&nbsp; Actually, I do enjoy dressing up in a tuxedo once in a while.&nbsp; The food at the awards ceremony was actually pretty good, if not diet friendly, as were the cocktails.&nbsp; The entertainment at the awards show was pretty good as well. Catching up with friends you had not seen for a while and networking with industry peers was pretty worthwhile too.&nbsp; Maybe your idea of a good time is putting on a bowling shirt and swilling a couple of beers and pretzels before going home and undressing into your dirty ripped underwear. Hey I say to each his own.</p>

<p>2. I am not the idiot who in 2007 said that I hated the SC awards and that anyone can buy the SC awards with a sponsorship.&nbsp; I am the idiot who <a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/2007/08/ssaaty-blog-win.html">said that about the InfoSec Products Guide</a> award by the folks at Silicon Valley Communications.&nbsp; In contrast I have always said nice things about the SC awards. I actually have a lot of respect for them.&nbsp; Also for the record, StillSecure has never been a sponsor of the SC Magazine awards. I have seen sponsors who did not win awards as well.&nbsp; So looks like you got that one wrong Julie, but it happens.</p>

<p>3. “Networld” magazine didn’t give me the boot within 3 months.&nbsp; They never had the chance, as I never wrote for “networld, network world or any other magazine. Maybe you have me confused with Mike Rothman or Mitchell Ashley, who do and did write for Network World. But let me assure you that I do try and think before I write.</p>

<p>4. Regarding what medication pills I take and does my hair make it obvious I ran away from a mental hospital. I don’t take any medication, maybe I should.&nbsp; Better living through chemistry you know ;-)&nbsp; As to my hair, what can I say.&nbsp; At this stage I am happy I have any hair at all.&nbsp; My wife always says when I get my haircut it looks like a Buzz Lightyear style, but no one ever mentioned a mental hospital look to it.&nbsp; In any event sorry it doesn’t appeal to you.</p>

<p>So who is this troll Julie Peterson?&nbsp; Could it be Richard Stiennon in drag?&nbsp; Maybe his wife striking out?&nbsp; Maybe another one of my fans?&nbsp; Who knows, but these sort of comments keep me juiced about blogging and remind me of how much fun I have doing it.&nbsp; Thanks again Julie!</p></div>

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      <title><![CDATA[In the great NAC debate, Snyder KOs Stiennon in the first round!]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/257e5281878e732cc8ef2afaee430827</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Just got done reading the transcript of yesterdays great NAC debate between Joel Snyder and Richard Stiennon. As I predicted Snyder scored a knockout early on and it was mostly over from that point...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/WindowsLiveWriter/boxer.jpg"><img title="boxer" style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 5px 5px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="124" alt="boxer" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/WindowsLiveWriter/boxer_thumb.jpg" width="142" align="right" border="0"></img></a> Just got done <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/chat/archive/2008/072308-snyder-stiennon-nac-debate.html">reading the transcript</a> of yesterdays great NAC debate between Joel Snyder and Richard Stiennon.  As I predicted Snyder scored a knockout early on and it was mostly over from that point on.  The knockout came earlier than I expected though, right off the first question.  Each combatant was asked to define NAC and that was when it happened.  Richard brought an EPAC (end point access control) to a NAC fight.  That was akin to him bringing a rubber knife to a gun fight.  A quick bullet between the eyes by Snyder and it was almost painlessly over for Richard.</p>  <p>I have been preaching for some time about what I call complete NAC. That is a complete network access control solution, not just network admission control and certainly not end point access control.  It is not an evil plot to extend Cisco/Microsoft dominance and most importantly Richard, no one and let me say this again, no one has ever said that NAC negates the need for a layered security model.  NAC is just another layer in that model.  Richard’s comments deriding the .edu and .mil markets were also laughable.  Richard, have you ever heard the term military grade?  Are you seriously trying to say that enterprises take security more seriously than the military does?  Come on now Richard.</p>  <p>The bottom line is Joel Snyder is not only a sharp dude technically, but is street savvy enough to run circles around my friend Richard.  He made Richard stay focused on the question at hand, did not let him wander and so Richard had to face reality a bit. I am sure Richard will still say NAC is useless and <a href="http://securityuncorked.squarespace.com/security-uncorked/2008/7/22/hps-nac-what-ive-been-wanting-to-tell-you-but-couldnt.html">will admonish people about hanging out with the likes of the StillSecure</a> crowd, but I guess some things will just never change.  Except, I don’t think Richard will be in anymore of these bouts.  Maybe he can start selling a grill that takes the fat out of meat or perhaps a reality TV show like the other washed up palookas ?</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[Experts debate NAC: usefulness vs. cost ]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Is NAC worthwhile? In Network World's first chat face-off, security experts Joel Snyder and Richard Stiennon debate the pros and...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title><![CDATA[HP's NAC- What I've Been Wanting to Tell You (but couldn't)]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/6314f59af5298d2d86c804d96c34fce9</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Well everyone- theres something Ive been wanting to tell you and now, after a year , I can
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<P><strong>Well everyone- there&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve been wanting to tell you and now, after a <em>year</em>, I can!</strong></P>
<P>Because of non-disclosure and other confidentiality contracts with various partners, vendors and manufacturers, we&#8217;ve had sealed lips for almost exactly 12 months. Now that it&#8217;s been made public by the media, I can share a little information with you and explain why I think you should be excited. </P>
<P><strong>What cat is out of the bag now?</strong> HP ProCurve&#8217;s network access control solution&nbsp;leverages endpoint management technology from StillSecure&#8217;s Secure Access solution. Information Week&nbsp;spilled the beans, so to speak, in Mike Fratto&#8217;s recent <A class=offsite-link-inline title="Information Week's 2008 NAC Report" href="http://nac.informationweek.com/" target=_blank>2008 NAC Survey Analytic Report</A>. (See page 32)</P>
<P>Now, at this point, I can probably lump you into one of three groups&#8230;<strong> 1)</strong> You don&#8217;t care or have no clue what this means <strong>2)</strong> You care but think this means HP &#8216;has no NAC&#8217;&#8230; or group <strong>3)</strong> You know about StillSecure&#8217;s success and ProCurve&#8217;s integration and think this is a great combination.</P>
<P><strong>I&#8217;m sure everyone will have their own opinion</strong>- I happen to be in Group 3. Why? Because HP has taken the power of their servers, leveraged a very solid endpoint management tool and incorporated a variety of other management and security features by way of their identity management solution. </P><strong>
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<li>The endpoint security</strong>. StillSecure&#8217;s Safe Access solution has been winning awards and earning stars for years. You can probably Google it, or check out some of <A class=offsite-link-inline title="Alan's Blog" href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com" target=_blank>Shimel&#8217;s blog</A>&nbsp; posts, such as <A class=offsite-link-inline href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/2008/07/when-is-4-out-o.html" target=_blank>this one</A>, with 4- and 5-star <A class=offsite-link-inline href="http://www.scmagazineus.com/StillSecure-Safe-Access/Review/2460/" target=_blank>reviews from SC Magazine</A>. In fact, just this year (and in previous years) Safe Access was voted Best Endpoint Security Solution by SC Magazine and has won numerous other awards and accolades from various analysts and media firms. They have a clean, user-friendly GUI, a solid Linux platform and a variety of testing methods, deployment options and switch integrations. (And no, you don&#8217;t need ProCurve switches, the NAC integration is ready for your Cisco, Extreme, or whatever you have). </li>
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<li>User management.</strong> Combine one of the highest-rated endpoint security solutions with ProCurve switches, the #2 leader in the switching market (and Magic Quadrant resident) and the full integration with <A class=offsite-link-inline title="ProCurve IDM" href="http://www.hp.com/rnd/products/management/idm/overview.htm" target=_blank>ProCurve&#8217;s Identity Driven Manager</A> platform and you have one amazingly capable access control system. With ProCurve IDM, you can integrate directly with their NAC 800 appliance to offer per-user (or per-group) ACLs, QoS, restrictions or priviliges. Rules can be identity-based, time-based, location-based, or a combination of all. And, IDM eases 802.1X integration by offering users a central management and repository for user settings and VLAN assignments; it really is ProCurve&#8217;s special sauce and a distinguishing feature. </li>
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<li>Switch security</strong>. The integration of advanced switch security functions, such as DHCP snooping, Dynamic ARP protection and dynamic IP lockdown gives ProCurve another leg-up to fight common known attacks for both in-line and out-of-band NAC deployments. </li>
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<li>Zero-day protection</strong>. It gets better, the new Dynamic Configuration Arbiter (DCA) functions in ProCurve&#8217;s Pro-vision switches gives customers the unique advantage of integrating the NAC and IDM with ProCurve&#8217;s <A class=offsite-link-inline title="ProCurve NIM" href="http://www.hp.com/rnd/products/management/ProCurve_Network_Immunity_Manager_1.0/overview.htm" target=_blank>Network Immunity Solution</A> (NIM). NIM uses flow analysis from sFlow and&nbsp;network behaviour anomaly detection (NBAD) to detect and automatically remediate on the edge. In English, that means we can use ProCurve&#8217;s NIM to detect attacks and take action at the edge port, such as blocking the port, locking out the MAC address of the offender, rate-limiting, or even mirroring the traffic to an IDS for further inspection. The super-nice part is, all the sFlow and NBAD works on wireless too. (Hey <A class=offsite-link-inline title="Stiennon on Security, NWW" href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/stiennon" target=_blank>Stiennon</A>, did you hear that?) </li>
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<li>Full integration.</strong> Unlike some of the other network-based NAC vendors, ProCurve has done an exceptional job of integrating these features and we&#8217;ll continue to see more integration in future revisions of the softwares and as more TNC/TCG integration frameworks are released (such as IF-MAP). </li>
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<P>I think the strong integration with the infrastructure and the ability to leverage a mature endpoint integrity will make HP a &#8216;real&#8217; player in the NAC market moving forward. </P>
<P>Not to knock other NAC solutions- Choosing a NAC is like selecting the perfect wine for your dish- there&#8217;s no 1 &#8216;right&#8217; choice for all occasions. Each have their advantages and disadvantages. There are several that have special sauces and you&#8217;ll actually be seeing more on that soon&#8230; </P>
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      <source url="http://www.securityuncorked.com/security-uncorked/2008/7/22/hps-nac-what-ive-been-wanting-to-tell-you-but-couldnt.html">HP's NAC- What I've Been Wanting to Tell You (but couldn't)</source>
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      <title><![CDATA[Don't-Miss NAC Events This Week]]></title>
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[FYI, thanks for bearing with me these couple of weeks. I spent a week in a lab with no Internet access at all, which made blogging life (and actually ALL life) very difficult. Upon returning, I&#8217;ve been in the process of following up on the <a href="http://securityuncorked.squarespace.com/security-uncorked/2008/7/10/the-dns-issue-of-2008.html">DNS vulnerability</a> which has now been accidentally released. And, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I&#8217;m smack in the middle of <a href="http://securityuncorked.squarespace.com/security-uncorked/2008/7/8/a-better-blog-coming-up.html">moving this blog</a><p> to a new, fuller-featured platform.&nbsp;</p><p><br></p><p>I did want to make sure you have a couple of important links and info! There are a couple of don&#8217;t-miss webcasts and events <span style="text-decoration: underline;">this week</span> if you&#8217;re interested in NAC technologies. <br></p><ul><li><strong>Live Debate from Network World: </strong>Snyder vs Stiennon- Duel of the NAC Experts<br>Tuesday, July 22nd, 3:00pm Eastern <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" title="Network World Live NAC Debate" href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/30152">More info</a></li>
</ul><ul><li><strong>2008 NAC Survey from Information Week</strong>: Mike Fratto reviews the 2008 Report<br>Wednesday, July 23rd, 2:00pm Eastern <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" title="Mike Fratto Reviews the NAC Report 2008" href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/07/2008_nac_survey.html">More info</a></li>
</ul><br><p>If you want to read the report, you can download the entire <a class="offsite-link-inline" target="_blank" title="2008 NAC Report by Mike Fratto" href="http://www.nac.informationweek.com/">Information Week 2008 NAC Report by Mike Fratto </a>free, for a limited time. The report covers all the main NAC vendor offerings and contains a variety of interesting survey results. You&#8217;ll be hearing from me soon about the contents of the report and my thoughts on the product details, roadmaps and features.&nbsp;</p><p>Enjoy!<br></p><p># # #<br></p>
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      <description><![CDATA[I know many of you think I am like a pavlovian dog the way I respond to Richard Stiennon's anti-NAC vitirol. After my last article, I really decided to just lay off Richard. But just to show you that...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I know many of you think I am like a <a class="zem_slink" title="Classical conditioning" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_conditioning" rel="wikipedia">pavlovian dog</a> the way I respond to Richard Stiennon's anti-NAC vitirol.&nbsp; After my last article, I really decided to just lay off Richard.&nbsp; But just to show you that it is not me, I wanted to point out Richards recent attack on Grant Hartline, CTO of Mirage Networks.&nbsp; Grant blogs and <a href="http://www.mirageblog.com/cto/2008/07/stiennons-right.html">put up an article</a> regarding the latest exchange between Richard and I.&nbsp; Both Richard and I commented.&nbsp; Check out Richards expective laced reply that I think shows just how unhinged he has become on this subject.&nbsp; Richard rambles and stumbles taking shots at anyone he can.&nbsp; I am telling you, he is really losing it.</p>

<p>In the meantime based on this, I am going to change my prediction on the great debate and say Joel Snyder in 2!</p>

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      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/5e8ee0a0eb7aec0d6393e17e6cc64b3d</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I am not sure what it is with Richard Stiennon. Maybe his mom beat him with a NAC stick when he was young. Hence his Jack Nicholson looks (more like the Joker in Batman , than Col Jessep in A Few Good...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/WindowsLiveWriter/fewgoodmen.jpg"><img title="fewgoodmen" height="183" alt="fewgoodmen" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/WindowsLiveWriter/fewgoodmen_thumb.jpg" width="179" align="left" border="0" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 10px 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" /></a> I am not sure what it is with Richard Stiennon.&nbsp; Maybe his mom beat him with a NAC stick when he was young.&nbsp; Hence his Jack Nicholson looks (more like the Joker in <a class="zem_slink" title="Batman" href="http://www.dccomics.com/sites/batman/" rel="homepage">Batman</a>, than Col Jessep in <a class="zem_slink" title="A Few Good Men" href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104257" rel="imdb">A Few Good Men</a>) and his total disdain for NAC.&nbsp; In any event Richard never seems to miss a chance to take a pot shot at NAC.&nbsp; I have fired back and debated him many times on this.&nbsp; In fact I am convinced that Richard's problem with NAC is that like Uncle Joe, he is just moving a little slow.&nbsp; Richard still thinks of NAC as Cisco???s network admission control, circa Dec ???03.&nbsp; He has not gotten up to speed on anything happening with NAC since.&nbsp; Richard is going to debate NAC with Joel Snyder according to <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/vpn/2008/070708nac2.html">this article</a> by Tim Greene today. My prediction is Snyder by a knockout in 3 rounds or less.</p>

<p>Richard???s latest NAC knock comes on a comment to an <a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/security-analys.html?cid=121871540#comment-121871540">excellent article by the Hoff</a>.&nbsp; Chris takes a bold stand for someone working for a vendor and calls BS on the whole analyst thing (I will write more about that later in this article). Richard being an ex-analyst himself (lets face it, with Richard you can take the man out of the analyst job, but you can???t take the analyst out of the man), takes exception to Hoff???s ???whining??? (Richards words, not mine) and tries to tell Hoff that giving up is not the answer and the way to show up analysts, is to prove them wrong.&nbsp; Great Richard you try to prove them wrong, when because of what they report you don???t have a market, can???t get any capital and have no visibility.&nbsp; I guess that is when it is time to move on to the next gig, right? Then Richard has a bad NAC deja vu and feels it necessary to write this: </p><blockquote><p><em>???Look how easy it is to one up the analyst firms, who as near as I can tell support Network Admission Control universally. Everyone except the folks at Updata Ventures know how seriously flawed NAC is with only one viable market, edu.???</em></p></blockquote><p>I assume Richard is referring to Updata recently leading the Bradford Networks VC round. But more importantly Richard it is time to call a code red on you and give you the cold hard truth.&nbsp; Richard the fact is that the edu market is not the only viable market for NAC.&nbsp; In fact, one of the biggest customers of NAC is the DoD.&nbsp; That is right Richard at least 3 of the 4 armed forces use NAC in helping to secure their networks. To paraphrase my friend Col Jessep - Richard, you want the truth, you can???t handle the truth!&nbsp; You sleep securely under the blanket of protection that NAC provides.&nbsp; If it is good enough to help ???clean the sand??? out of laptops coming home from SWA (that is SouthWest Asia, like in Iraq and Afghanistan, in case you don???t know Richard), it should be good enough for you. Think about that next time you are about to bad mouth NAC.</p>

<p>Let me give you some other truths you may not like Richard.&nbsp; Why do you think every switch vendor (of which we partner with many of them) is lining up and bringing out NAC solutions?&nbsp; Why has Microsoft put such a big push on NAP?&nbsp; Why despite the Luddites like you does NAC still draw crowds at conferences like Interop (ask Joel about that).&nbsp; Richard we are still signing new major OEM partners.&nbsp; I am afraid you are the one sadly out of touch on this one Richard.&nbsp; Just as you are out of touch in missing Hoff???s point in his article.</p>

<p>As to Hoff???s article, as I said I give Chris credit for speaking his mind. I spend an ungodly amount of my time speaking with analysts and trying to ???learn??? from them while at the same time trying to educate them.&nbsp; I am constantly amazed that so many analysts (and press for that matter) just take a vendors word as gospel. I have seen research reports from analysts big and small, that I am sure did not have any more research done than calling a handful of vendors and listening to their spiel. Too many of these vendors if they do speak to customers, base their findings on such a small sample that it is impossible to have an accurate picture.</p>

<p>Personally, like Hoff says, who watches the watchers is the truth. I would like to see a code of conduct among analysts. I would start by dictating that vendors cannot pay analysts.&nbsp; Take the payola out of the equation the way they did to the DJ/Radio business in the late 50s. Next analyst reports have to come with metrics to back up the findings. I want to know how many customers they spoke to, how big they were, how they were found, etc.&nbsp; A vendor giving an analyst a real live???pet??? customer is not real research. I want to know if the customer pays the analyst. It is a dirty business. </p>

<p>Hey let me be clear, I play the game as well as the next guy.&nbsp; But I agree with Hoff we need to clean up the rules to make the whole analyst thing more fair, viable and valuable.</p>

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      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/8ffe83b77278161ca4798e9097d5d497</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[I am not sure what it is with Richard Stiennon. Maybe his mom beat him with a NAC stick when he was young. Hence his Jack Nicholson looks (more like the Joker in Batman , than Col Jessep in A Few Good...]]></description>
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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p><a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/WindowsLiveWriter/fewgoodmen.jpg"><img title="fewgoodmen" height="183" alt="fewgoodmen" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/WindowsLiveWriter/fewgoodmen_thumb.jpg" width="179" align="left" border="0" style="BORDER-RIGHT: 0px; BORDER-TOP: 0px; MARGIN: 0px 10px 5px 0px; BORDER-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-BOTTOM: 0px" /></a> I am not sure what it is with Richard Stiennon.&nbsp; Maybe his mom beat him with a NAC stick when he was young.&nbsp; Hence his Jack Nicholson looks (more like the Joker in <a class="zem_slink" title="Batman" href="http://www.dccomics.com/sites/batman/" rel="homepage">Batman</a>, than Col Jessep in <a class="zem_slink" title="A Few Good Men" href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104257" rel="imdb">A Few Good Men</a>) and his total disdain for NAC.&nbsp; In any event Richard never seems to miss a chance to take a pot shot at NAC.&nbsp; I have fired back and debated him many times on this.&nbsp; In fact I am convinced that Richard's problem with NAC is that like Uncle Joe, he is just moving a little slow.&nbsp; Richard still thinks of NAC as Cisco’s network admission control, circa Dec ‘03.&nbsp; He has not gotten up to speed on anything happening with NAC since.&nbsp; Richard is going to debate NAC with Joel Snyder according to <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/newsletters/vpn/2008/070708nac2.html">this article</a> by Tim Greene today. My prediction is Snyder by a knockout in 3 rounds or less.</p>

<p>Richard’s latest NAC knock comes on a comment to an <a href="http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/security-analys.html?cid=121871540#comment-121871540">excellent article by the Hoff</a>.&nbsp; Chris takes a bold stand for someone working for a vendor and calls BS on the whole analyst thing (I will write more about that later in this article). Richard being an ex-analyst himself (lets face it, with Richard you can take the man out of the analyst job, but you can’t take the analyst out of the man), takes exception to Hoff’s “whining” (Richards words, not mine) and tries to tell Hoff that giving up is not the answer and the way to show up analysts, is to prove them wrong.&nbsp; Great Richard you try to prove them wrong, when because of what they report you don’t have a market, can’t get any capital and have no visibility.&nbsp; I guess that is when it is time to move on to the next gig, right? Then Richard has a bad NAC deja vu and feels it necessary to write this: </p><blockquote><p><em>“Look how easy it is to one up the analyst firms, who as near as I can tell support Network Admission Control universally. Everyone except the folks at Updata Ventures know how seriously flawed NAC is with only one viable market, edu.”</em></p></blockquote><p>I assume Richard is referring to Updata recently leading the Bradford Networks VC round. But more importantly Richard it is time to call a code red on you and give you the cold hard truth.&nbsp; Richard the fact is that the edu market is not the only viable market for NAC.&nbsp; In fact, one of the biggest customers of NAC is the DoD.&nbsp; That is right Richard at least 3 of the 4 armed forces use NAC in helping to secure their networks. To paraphrase my friend Col Jessep - Richard, you want the truth, you can’t handle the truth!&nbsp; You sleep securely under the blanket of protection that NAC provides.&nbsp; If it is good enough to help “clean the sand” out of laptops coming home from SWA (that is SouthWest Asia, like in Iraq and Afghanistan, in case you don’t know Richard), it should be good enough for you. Think about that next time you are about to bad mouth NAC.</p>

<p>Let me give you some other truths you may not like Richard.&nbsp; Why do you think every switch vendor (of which we partner with many of them) is lining up and bringing out NAC solutions?&nbsp; Why has Microsoft put such a big push on NAP?&nbsp; Why despite the Luddites like you does NAC still draw crowds at conferences like Interop (ask Joel about that).&nbsp; Richard we are still signing new major OEM partners.&nbsp; I am afraid you are the one sadly out of touch on this one Richard.&nbsp; Just as you are out of touch in missing Hoff’s point in his article.</p>

<p>As to Hoff’s article, as I said I give Chris credit for speaking his mind. I spend an ungodly amount of my time speaking with analysts and trying to “learn” from them while at the same time trying to educate them.&nbsp; I am constantly amazed that so many analysts (and press for that matter) just take a vendors word as gospel. I have seen research reports from analysts big and small, that I am sure did not have any more research done than calling a handful of vendors and listening to their spiel. Too many of these vendors if they do speak to customers, base their findings on such a small sample that it is impossible to have an accurate picture.</p>

<p>Personally, like Hoff says, who watches the watchers is the truth. I would like to see a code of conduct among analysts. I would start by dictating that vendors cannot pay analysts.&nbsp; Take the payola out of the equation the way they did to the DJ/Radio business in the late 50s. Next analyst reports have to come with metrics to back up the findings. I want to know how many customers they spoke to, how big they were, how they were found, etc.&nbsp; A vendor giving an analyst a real live“pet” customer is not real research. I want to know if the customer pays the analyst. It is a dirty business. </p>

<p>Hey let me be clear, I play the game as well as the next guy.&nbsp; But I agree with Hoff we need to clean up the rules to make the whole analyst thing more fair, viable and valuable.</p>

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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Last week in response to<a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/28837"> Richard Stiennon's glowing write up</a>, <a href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/2008/06/if-rohati-is-ki.html">I questioned</a> what it is exactly that Rohati does. Well someone from Rohati must have seen it and I was contacted by the Rohati team and offered a peek and a deep explanation of exactly what Rohati does.&nbsp; So today I had a chance to speak with Shane Buckley, CEO, Prashant Ghandi VP of product management and strategy and Steven Wastie, VP of marketing.&nbsp; I was impressed that such a triumvirate of power players from the Rohati team took the time to speak to me.&nbsp; But I guess after I wrote what I did, it was followed up by <a href="http://securityuncorked.squarespace.com/security-uncorked/2008/6/15/network-based-entitlement-a-rose-by-any-other-name.html">JJ writing her article</a> on it and than <a href="http://securityincite.com/blog/mike-rothman/the-daily-incite-june-17-2008">Rothman piling on</a> with his own two cents.&nbsp; </p>

<p><a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=800,height=617,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/06/20/rohati_2.png"><img title="Rohati_2" height="231" alt="Rohati_2" src="http://www.stillsecureafteralltheseyears.com/ashimmy/images/2008/06/20/rohati_2.png" width="300" border="0" style="FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 5px 5px" /></a> Give the Rohati team credit for recognizing the power of blogs to influence the influencer and reaching out to stem the tide.&nbsp; It just goes to show you how far blogging has come. But enough about the power of blogs, lets talk about Rohati.</p>

<p>The best way for me to describe Rohati is that it is layer 7 ACLs to control access to applications.&nbsp; Where we already have security at the perimeter and at the edge, Rohati is about controlling access at the server/application.&nbsp; The diagram on the left (click on it to get a bigger version), is a good illustration of how Rohati works. By integrating with LDAPs Rohati can assign you an access policy to any application.&nbsp; Based upon that Rohati gives a very fine grain level of access control at the application layer.&nbsp; It acts as a proxy to the app server for both regular and encrypted traffic.&nbsp; Because the ACLs are on the Rohati box itself, there really is not any integration with switches per say and so no integration worries.</p>

<p>The only problem is that the Rohati box has to be able to handle the traffic flow.&nbsp; Hence the box is a big honker.&nbsp; The cheap one is about 20k list I believe and the industrial size version is 80k. This product is aimed squarely at the data center space and is sold through channels. </p>

<p>Will Rohati succeed.&nbsp; Yes, I think it will.&nbsp; I think they have taken a unique approach to a security issue that will continue to grow in years to come.&nbsp; Application access is an area that I think is still up and coming.&nbsp; In a period of nothing is ever new in security, the Rohati team seems to have found something that has not been done before in a packaged dedicated way like this.&nbsp; If nothing else, with all of the ex-Cisco folks there, Cisco will eat its young and buy the technology back in.</p>

<p>We will watch Rohati's progress in the months to come.&nbsp; At the very least, it seems they are blog savvy enough to navigate the waters of social media.&nbsp; Maybe they will start their own blog soon. </p>

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