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      <title><![CDATA[Teen Hacks PA School Computer, Gets Tax Info]]></title>
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      <description><![CDATA[A 15 year old student managed to hack into a school computer in Pennsylvania. He got his hands on 2005 tax return information for 41,000 which sent a town meeting for a loop
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A 15 year old student managed to hack into a school computer in Pennsylvania. He got his hands on 2005 tax return information for 41,000 which sent a town meeting for a loop.</p>
<p>From DailyLocal dot com:</p>
<blockquote><p> Borough police arrested a 15-year-old Downingtown West High School freshman on May 21 and charged him with theft by unlawful taking or disposition, computer theft, unlawful duplication and computer trespass.</p>
<p>District administrators learned about the intrusion on May 9, when a student told Downingtown West’s principal that another student might have personal information, Griffin said. But 71 school employees did not learn their 2005 W-2 forms were copied until May 16, and Griffin said this was because district officials had to first perform “due diligence.”</p>
<p>According to police, the data files contained more than 41,000 adult taxpayers’ names and personal information, including Social Security numbers, and more than 15,000 students’ names and personal information. The school district sent out letters to 16,595 residences about the incident.</p>
<p>Eldredge said he received the school district’s letter but believes it’s a dead issue.</p>
<p>“For me, I’m comfortable that nothing was done with the information,” Eldredge said.</p></blockquote>
<p>But, not everyone felt the same.</p>
<blockquote><p>“I have a tremendous objection to anyone but the county having this information,” West Bradford resident Susan Singer said. And if there are instances of identity theft, “I will be more than outraged,” she said.</p></blockquote>
<p>ID theft can scare the best of us at the worst of times.</p>
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      <title><![CDATA[Mark Rasch Puts Me To Shame]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/42f18330d82baeb157430d360b4e3a9e</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[Last Thursday I wrote a piece about the case of Sullivan v. Ritz (and Faulk). I put the word armchair in the title because I'm not a lawyer and so my analysis was both simplistic and rather brief
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      <content:encoded><![CDATA[Last Thursday I wrote a <a href="http://securityretentive.blogspot.com/2008/01/armchair-legal-analysis-of-sierra-v.html">piece </a>about the case of Sullivan v. Ritz (and Faulk).  I put the word armchair in the title because I'm not a lawyer and so my analysis was both simplistic and rather brief.<br /><br />Today Mark Rasch released a much longer article on this same subject, "<a href="http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/463">Mother, May I.</a>"    As usual, Mark gives an excellent explanation of the underlying legal topics -  the relation of physical world common law notions and rules concerning trespass.  I highly recommend you read Mark's article if you're interested in the intersection of computer security and the law.<br /><br />Mark also points to an excellent paper by Orin Kerr, - <a href="http://www.law.nyu.edu/journals/lawreview//issues/vol78/no5/NYU502.pdf">CYBERCRIME’S SCOPE: INTERPRETING "ACCESS” AND “AUTHORIZATION” IN COMPUTER MISUSE STATUTES.</a>  I read this paper some time ago and I've been searching for it ever since to no avail.  If you're not a lawyer you usually don't have access to the right search engines/tools to find these sorts of things.  Kerr's article is also an excellent read if you're not happy with the analysis the Mark gives of the current law, or you understand the analysis and don't like that words like "access" and "authorization" aren't well defined in the statutes.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SecurityRetentive/~4/221879893" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
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      <title><![CDATA[Armchair Legal Analysis of Sierra v. Ritz]]></title>
      <link>http://securityratty.com/article/1939cb398d7cdfcab95d62f860a4ec33</link>
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      <description><![CDATA[You may have heard about the case of Sierra Corporate Design, Inc. v. David Ritz

There has been lots of griping and complaining about the fact that doing zone transfers might be illegal. I thought...]]></description>
      <content:encoded><![CDATA[You may have heard about the case of Sierra Corporate Design, Inc. v. David Ritz. <br /><br />There has been lots of <a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/811611_david_ritz_court_spam/">griping </a>and <a href="http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351">complaining </a>about the fact that doing zone transfers might be illegal.  I thought I'd try to give the quick analysis of the case.  I'm sure I'm missing a few things here and I'm not a lawyer, but I am a little tired of "hackers" complaining about their rights to do whatever they want being trampled...   You can read the judgment <a href="http://www.spamsuite.com/node/351">here</a>.<br /><br />In this case David Ritz is being punished for performing unauthorized DNS zone transfers of Sierra Corporate Design's network.<br /><br />The problem at the federal level is that the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFAA">CFAA </a>(Computer Fraud and Abuse Act).  North Dakota's statute appears to have roughly the same language.<br /><br />The CFAA has relatively consistently been interpreted so that "Accessing a computer without authorization" hinges on whether the owner of the computer wanted you to perform your action or didn't.  The presence or absence of controls to prevent access being generally irrelevant.  They have relied on the traditional definition of trespass and attempted to apply it to the electr0nic world.<br /><br />In the physical world trespass is relatively easy to understand, police, etc.  There are obviously corner cases where you can trespass onto unmarked land, not realize you're trespassing, etc.   There is a lot of case law for these.  At the same time though, if you see a house, you know it isn't your house, and you walk into it, you're trespassing whether or not they locked the door. It is quite clear that you weren't invited and not locking the door doesn't remove the rights of the home owner to prevent trespass.<br /><br />In the electronic world for example it gets a lot murkier.  If I mistype a URL into a tool and attempt to access someone's machine, its pretty clear from both intent and network traffic what was going on.  At the same time though,  let's say I send a ton of traffic at you, or I start fingerprinting your system.  Intent is really the key question here.<br /><br />Did I knowingly attempt to access your computer without authorization?  What was my intent?  It is generally the answers to these questions that would be at play in court.<br /><br />In this specific case a DNS zone transfer isn't the sort of thing you mistakenly do.  It isn't isn't the type of data that people generally try to get from other sites as part of browsing the net, etc.  In general, and in this case its pretty apparent, you're trying to get data that you wouldn't ordinarily be expecting people to let out.  Whether the DNS server was configured to prevent zone transfers isn't really the issue here. <br /><br />Obviously where this gets tricky is determining whether this is like trespassing onto unmarked land, or walking into someone else's house when they had the door unlocked.<br /><br />This isn't to say I necessarily agree with the decision, but there is a lot more nuance to this issue than I've seen posted.<img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/SecurityRetentive/~4/218649111" height="1" width="1"/>]]></content:encoded>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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